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    #542
    questionmark?
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    Anyone have an idea of how the two routes are doing to date?


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    #543
    fr336
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    questionmark? wrote: »
    Anyone have an idea of how the two routes are doing to date?

    There's some discussion here from post 51 onwards:

    http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/550273-vlm-airlines-3.html


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    #544
    JCX BXC
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    fr336 wrote: »
    There's some discussion here from post 51 onwards:

    http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/550273-vlm-airlines-3.html

    Interesting, I took this from that fourm :
    Load factors for WAT services:

    (Remember, *Each Fokker 50 holds 50pax. *Airports count both inbound and outbound passengers)

    WAT-LTN: 192/800 = 24% LF
    BHX-LTN: 35/200 = 17.5% LF

    Of course, these figures are hardly representational of how the service will preform, it was started at short notice, with little publicity and the figures are only for 4 days


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    #545
    fr336
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    You really need hiring as a research analyst or something by one of the airlines you'd have a week's work done in a day :p


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    #546
    JCX BXC
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    fr336 wrote: »
    You really need hiring as a research analyst or something by one of the airlines you'd have a week's work done in a day :p

    Ah come on, you posted the link for me and all!

    Id prefer to get a nice job in the airline industry though. May look into that someday.


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    #547
    fr336
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Ah come on, you posted the link for me and all!

    Id prefer to get a nice job in the airline industry though. May look into that someday.

    You should, you seem very enthusiastic and full of energy :cool:


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    #548
    b757
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    Doing well so far, loads are after improving an awful lot in the last 2/3 weeks. It will take time. Seen loads of up to 90% on some LTN flights.

    I can see a second Sunday flight to Luton if anything happens. MAN possibly on the cards for S16.
    fr336 wrote: »
    You really need hiring as a research analyst or something by one of the airlines you'd have a week's work done in a day :p

    Don't mean to be smart, but by just copy/pasting from a rumour forum.


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    #549
    fr336
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    b757 wrote: »

    Don't mean to be smart, but by just copy/pasting from a rumour forum.

    I was more referring to his general enthusiasm / speed for doing things.


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    #550
    JCX BXC
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    fr336 wrote: »
    I was more referring to his general enthusiasm / speed for doing things.

    I will take the compliment with pleasure, happiness and thanks.

    Thanks fr336 :P


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    fr336
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I will take the compliment with pleasure, happiness and thanks.

    Thanks fr336 :P

    You can come to LTN and try to deal with pax like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQK6FxQ2Kd8&app=desktop


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    #552
    space2ground1
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    Is there any possibility of a direct Waterford - Mainland Europe flight with VLM?


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    #553
    JCX BXC
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    space2ground1 wrote: »
    Is there any possibility of a direct Waterford - Mainland Europe flight with VLM?

    Very much doubt it, not for a few years anyway until their name builds up.
    Id imagine MAN would be the next if any routes are to come. Maybe then another route may arise but its a while off if ever.


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    #554
    b757
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    space2ground1 wrote: »
    Is there any possibility of a direct Waterford - Mainland Europe flight with VLM?

    There could be in a number of years. I'd say their goal now would be make both current routes profitable and then expand on that.


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    #555
    JCX BXC
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    fr336 wrote: »
    You can come to LTN and try to deal with pax like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQK6FxQ2Kd8&app=desktop

    Hopefully no-one will have that problem with VLM.
    La Compagnie have made a mess of their Luton operations in fairness though.


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    #556
    fr336
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Hopefully no-one will have that problem with VLM.
    La Compagnie have made a mess of their Luton operations in fairness though.

    It doesn't look good, on a short haul route maybe they could iron out the issues but with New York :eek: The fact the tickets are going cheap says what needs to be said I guess...anyway, off topic, apologies :P


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    #557
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    Just looking at the waterford facebook page and I see people complaning in some of the comments about the prices when looking for flights during the summer so I had a look at flights in July and plenty available for €69 over to Luton. Considering that includes 23kg of luggage and a free drink/snack minus travel time and costs to Dublin it is pretty competitive.


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    #558
    wellboytoo
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    questionmark? wrote: »
    Just looking at the waterford facebook page and I see people complaning in some of the comments about the prices when looking for flights during the summer so I had a look at flights in July and plenty available for €69 over to Luton. Considering that includes 23kg of luggage and a free drink/snack minus travel time and costs to Dublin it is pretty competitive.

    Waterford people complaining surely not?


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    #559
    Kenny2012
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    Flew WAT-LTN WAT yesterday and found it to be an excellent service. On-board service excellent and travel times through both airports was very expeditious. Best of luck with the service I hope it succeeds.


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    #560
    man98
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    Kenny2012 wrote: »
    Flew WAT-LTN WAT yesterday and found it to be an excellent service. On-board service excellent and travel times through both airports was very expeditious. Best of luck with the service I hope it succeeds.

    I hear they had OO-VLZ in because -VLJ went tech...


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    Kenny2012
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    man98 wrote: »
    I hear they had OO-VLZ in because -VLJ went tech...
    It went tech and they flew in a replacement aircraft , I would have thought that was a good thing.


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    #562
    b757
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    VLZ was bought in from SNN ANR to operate a single LTN return one day last week, Saturday I believe.


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    #563
    Kenny2012
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    OO-VLZ was flown in from Antwerp 1 hour before scheduled time of departure and there was no delay to the outbound service.


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    #564
    fr336
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    Now that's service


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    #565
    man98
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    Kenny2012 wrote: »
    It went tech and they flew in a replacement aircraft , I would have thought that was a good thing.

    I never said it was a bad thing ;) . WAT aviation page on FB saying it was from Shannon, and they got a picture of both the Fokkers side by side...


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    #566
    b757
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    man98 wrote: »
    I never said it was a bad thing ;) . WAT aviation page on FB saying it was from Shannon, and they got a picture of both the Fokkers side by side...

    Kenny was correct, came in from ANR as VLM413P.


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    #567
    JCX BXC
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    May I ask what type of in flight meal do VLM offer?


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    #568
    wellboytoo
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    For a 65 minute flight? Chateaubriand I'd say.


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    #569
    fricatus
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    May I ask what type of in flight meal do VLM offer?
    wellboytoo wrote: »
    For a 65 minute flight? Chateaubriand I'd say.

    LOL... Carnacalla, I think I saw a tweet from someone showing some sort of pastry, like a Danish. I think it's just some sort of complementary snack. The flight is quite short.


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    #570
    Plane Fan
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    I flew on the morning flight over and got a danish , hot & cold drinks and a sweet. On the evening flight home I got a sandwich, hot & cold drinks and a sweet :)


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    #571
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    All credit for the below stats go to the user Jamie2k9 , who has posted these the last few months on the waterford airport thread in the Waterford City forum but I thought I'd stick them here together as well.

    July stats are:
    LTN - 63.3%
    BHX - 56.7%

    June stats:
    58% on LTN. 2883 Pax
    50% on BHX. 856 Pax

    May stats
    52% on LTN.

    As per the above, there is a growing trend of growth on the route. Considering the flights took off without much notice it is shown good potential. If they can make the current routes work I can see them looking at Manchester come next year considering FlyBe acheived around 89% LF on it.
    I see that they have also added Antwerp from Birmingham so potential for connection through the Waterford route. Good news for Waterford.


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