SPURS V LIVERPOOL - Anfield 10/3/13

YFlyer

irishmover wrote: »

Ha apparently Suarez himself said he doesn't think it was a penalty. Not sure what's worse, diving or admitting it!

Haven't seen his interview or quote though.

Yeah he said that on SSN

irishmover

YFlyer wrote: »

Yeah he said that on SSN

Cheers.. Atleast he admitted to it. Liverpool fans I guarantee will still disagree with the man himself.

Dunno if anyone seen MOTD2? Showed a fair few Suarez incidents. Most of which I never picked up on in the match. Unbelievable what he got away with.

davycc

yea he was kicking & fouling & slapping ffs Dembele every chance he got.he also kicked Verts with a kind of backkick,

he is a great striker no question but is such a sneaky dirty player & the dive for the winning peno was just what he specialises in.

Only difference was if we had such a lethal striker we would prob be top of the prem..

& hopefully next season suarez tries it on with sandro instead of dembele & gets a taste of the pain lol

mickman

I think we played excellently , we were the better team and deserved at least a draw.

Dembele was head and shoulders above everyone else and didnt deserve to be on the losing team.

Livermore was terrible alright

I expected to lose this one and we could afford to as we beat arsenal last weekend. The annoying thing is though that we actually should have won!!

Great performance, time to move on .

Sugarlumps

Ah very unlucky, agree with Mickman on Dembele, glided by players at will like a ballerina. Few unfortunate mistakes made, it happens.

mickman

and we needed to come back to earth a little . I think the confidence was gone through the roof and the lads felt like they can do no wrong.

Defoe and walker will wake up today knowing that they need to work hard for 90+ mins or they will lose games for us

PogMoThoin

mickman wrote: »

and we needed to come back to earth a little . I think the confidence was gone through the roof and the lads felt like they can do no wrong.

Defoe and walker will wake up today knowing that they need to work hard for 90+ mins or they will lose games for us

+1, maybe its the kick in the arse we needed to bring us back down to earth. Reality folks, we are doing well, but we need to concentrate for the full 90mins

DubPerryman

I think yesterday's result highlights our lack of strength in depth. Up to yesterday we've been doing pretty well with respect to injuries (only Sandro and Kaboul out). Though without Lennon we were all over the place. I love AVB, I can't express just how much, but I think taking Dembele out of centre midfield was a mistake. Without the likes of a Dembele in there we had no creativity/driving force.

I'm not the biggest fan of Kyle Walker... but I think I gave him the kiss of death because, shortly after I said "he's playing very well", he goes and gives the ball to down with a creative cross-field pass!

As for Livermore, he's done well when he's come on in the last ten minutes of matches recently. He keeps things simple. Though, if you're chasing a came or looking to push on and win a game, Jake Livermore is not the answer. I think a move to the likes of a QPR is where his future lies.

rgmmg

irishmover wrote: »

Chested it and volleyed it back into the danger area, where Suarez got it and dropped to the ground to win the penalty.

Defoe screwed up and Suarez dived! Not sure who was worse.

Anyway never expected us to even get one point in this game. Just glad it's out of the way and hopefully nobody injured. Hammer Fulham next week while im there would be nice!

That wasn't a dive!!

mickman

DubPerryman wrote: »

I think yesterday's result highlights our lack of strength in depth. Up to yesterday we've been doing pretty well with respect to injuries (only Sandro and Kaboul out). Though without Lennon we were all over the place. I love AVB, I can't express just how much, but I think taking Dembele out of centre midfield was a mistake. Without the likes of a Dembele in there we had no creativity/driving force.

All over the place? We were the better team for most of the game and dembele was the best player on the pitch.

Without the mistakes we would have won

Here Precious2

rgmmg wrote: »

That wasn't a dive!!

Watching match of the day last night and some of suarez antics were unbelievable. How is he allowed to get away with it?

DubPerryman

mickman wrote: »

All over the place? We were the better team for most of the game and dembele was the best player on the pitch.

Without the mistakes we would have won

Dembele was very good. Though without Dembele in the centre we had no flow through the midfield, which meant Defoe hardly touched the ball in the first half. And then when Dembele had to come in off the right flank to get things moving, we had no width because Siggy isn't a natural wingman on the left. So, bearing in mind the football we've being playing over the last couple of weeks and the shape we've had then yes, we were all over the place yesterday.

Earlier in the season, when Dembele was injured for three weeks, we saw the trouble playing two holding centre midfielders caused us.

The mistakes were forced upon us due to the lack of width and the way we were playing.

mickman

DubPerryman wrote: »

Dembele was very good. Though without Dembele in the centre we had no flow through the midfield, which meant Defoe hardly touched the ball in the first half. And then when Dembele had to come in off the right flank to get things moving, we had no width because Siggy isn't a natural wingman on the left. So, bearing in mind the football we've being playing over the last couple of weeks and the shape we've had then yes, we were all over the place yesterday.

Earlier in the season, when Dembele was injured for three weeks, we saw the trouble playing two holding centre midfielders caused us.

The mistakes were forced upon us due to the lack of width and the way we were playing.

yeah fair enough. Livermore is crap though, he needs to be moved on

gar

Would have thought a better idea would have been to put wallet on the right flank, naughton right back and dembele where he belongs...

We were unlucky, 2 stupid passes. Don't blame lloris, should never have been put in that situation.

Defoe was a passenger

mickman

gar wrote: »

Would have thought a better idea would have been to put wallet on the right flank, naughton right back and dembele where he belongs...

We were unlucky, 2 stupid passes. Don't blame lloris, should never have been put in that situation.

Defoe was a passenger

I dont blame lloris either but he really should have cleared the backpass

amiable

irishmover wrote: »

Suarez himself said it wasn't a penalty! You're being stupid now.

Source for this quote where Suarez said it wasn't a penalty

Mullo76

I have never had so many reported posts from one thread its ridiculous. lets keep the conversation civil please.

fact is we lost the game due to silly mistakes, I for one am just going to take it on the chin and move on.

irishmover

amiable wrote: »

Source for this quote where Suarez said it wasn't a penalty

Errr? Sky sports post match interview. Where he says 'I dunno if it was or not'.

Robxxx7

Mullo76 wrote: »

I have never had so many reported posts from one thread its ridiculous. lets keep the conversation civil please.

fact is we lost the game due to silly mistakes, I for one am just going to take it on the chin and move on.

Agree, We beat ourselves in this game ... If i thought we had been outplayed etc then i would be worried more ..but the defeat was our own doing ..so i'm sure we will put it right against Fulham at home.

Leinstersqspur

We were the better team, any Liverpool fan worth his salt agreed with me yesterday, we made two shocking unforced errors that cost us the game. Shame Siggy hit the post instead of making it 3-1 but these are the fine margins that decide games.

Suarez didn't admit I wasn't a penalty, on Sky he said "maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, you decide, there was contact with Ekotto and he did not dispute the decision woth the ref" And too be honest, Bale went down with the slightest of touches, after losing the ball, for the free which lead to our second. Enough of the Suarez witchhunt.

Move on. COYS

irishmover

Robxxx7 wrote: »

Agree, We beat ourselves in this game ... If i thought we had been outplayed etc then i would be worried more ..but the defeat was our own doing ..so i'm sure we will put it right against Fulham at home.

Being outplayed or running the show/beating ourselves it doesnt matter I think a defeat is a defeat. This match against Inter Milan will be annoying as it'll add to fatigue for the Fulham match. We definitely do need a result obviously against Fulham as inevitably people will have eyes in this time last season.

amiable

irishmover wrote: »

Errr? Sky sports post match interview. Where he says 'I dunno if it was or not'.

Err that's not Suarez saying it wasn't a penalty.
That's probably him being careful with the media.
I think the reaction of BAE said it all. He was clumbsy and bundled Suarez over.

irishmover

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

We were the better team, any Liverpool fan worth his salt agreed with me yesterday, we made two shocking unforced errors that cost us the game. Shame Siggy hit the post instead of making it 3-1 but these are the fine margins that decide games.

Suarez didn't admit I wasn't a penalty, on Sky he said "maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, you decide, there was contact with Ekotto and he did not dispute the decision woth the ref" And too be honest, Bale went down with the slightest of touches, after losing the ball, for the free which lead to our second. Enough of the Suarez witchhunt.

Move on. COYS

I already said Bale was a joke. Diving is a joke and Bale has been doing it enough himself. You obviously didn't watch MOTD2 last night? Suarez honestly could have been sent off for a few things he done. He doesn't do himself any favours when people get on his back. Neither does Bale.

He said 'I don't know if it was or not, you had the tv so I don't know' which if he thought it definitely was a penalty he would have said yes. Nothing in the contact made would result in him going to ground. It's almost as of people are now accepting that when a player gets the slightest of touches on them (Suarez, Bale or whoever) they'll go to ground and its a penalty or free. Football never used to be like that. Players who were actually tripped thus losing their balance or got hit hard which again would cause them to lose heir balance would go to ground because they have to. Now if you actually believe that BAE made enough contact with Suarez that would cause him to lose his balance and go to ground then that's fair enough. But for me he didn't make close to enough and Suarez went to ground completely unnaturally. It's irritating to watch how modern football has become. Every team has a Suarez or a Bale in it.

irishmover

amiable wrote: »

Err that's not Suarez saying it wasn't a penalty.
That's probably him being careful with the media.
I think the reaction of BAE said it all. He was clumbsy and bundled Suarez over.

Yeh fair enough I watched it late last night and just watched it again. I think he's having more an issue speaking English than anything else to be honest which is probably why he didn't say yes it was or no it wasn't. See above post anyway.

irishmover

Shouldn't have laughed when I seen this but I did. Anyone know what I'm laughing at?! Something to do with Kyle Walker obviously!

http://blog.squawka.com/2013/03/11/top-5-passers-in-the-premier-league-this-weekend-liverpool-spurs-swansea-sunderland-west-brom-compete/201303116481?

Ormus

Very strange reaction from a lotta people on here.

We lost at Anfield to the strongest Liverpool team I've seen in a good few years, and we would have won if not for one awful mistake by Walker and a clumsy mess by Defoe and Benny.

Apart from the first 20 mins when we looked lost without any width, we played them off the park.

Bale was brilliant once again, I'd like to see how you'd take take to being caught unawares by a head butt in the back of the head. Couldn't believe Gerrard wasn't booked. Pure class by Bale to get up and sweep in a majestic cross for Verts.

Suarez did not admit it wasn't a penalty. Of course he went down easily but did anyone expect any different? If so you don't know much about football and you have certainly never seen Suarez play before.

I expected us to lose to either Arsenal or Pool and thats what happened. It's very frustrating to have lost given how well we played, but we are still on course.

jobeenfitz

My son (23) who is a liverpool fan and lives with me and my brother who is a big fat gooner fan gave me loads of **** yesterday. No more or less than I would do to them. It was a bad result. It was better to have lost this one than the one before. Thank fcuk for two and a half men, the big bang theory and rules of engagement. It got me through the rest of the evening after the game. Its best to get over these games as fast as possible and I agree with the comments about us having a good performance minus the stupid errors. Life's too short for whinging. Roll on Fulham.

2nd Row Donkey

Well lads, I couldnt stomach coming on here and reading about the match after witnessing it first hand yesterday. In fact, I've been avoiding the newspapars, news highlights, social network etc. It felt like I was watching my gf/wife cheat on me yesterday and today I'm trying to avoid the replays of it.


Here's my 2 cents anyway, for what its worth...

Terrible start, shaking from the beginning. Not sure if it was the view I had (behind the goal for Suarez's first) but my blood pressure was through the roof every time they played a ball over the top or through the channels.

BAE was lax as usual and Walker - well what can I say that hasn't already been said by everyone else. Not sure Dawson was ideal for taking on Suarez considering his pace but the other options probably wouldn't have been any better. Thought we could have done better for the first goal. Yes it was well taken but they had been probing those sort of passes down the channels beforehand and we should have dealt with the danger better.

As I watched the start of the second half I saw Livermore getting on the ball a few times and I started to wonder who he had come on for at half time ?!?!? - Then I relaised he had been playing the since the start, I think that says it all really.

Dembele is just unbelievable, I can t believe how good he is, he's like Modric in that he can take the ball and relieve the pressure off the players around him by making space, runs, dribbles etc and he's not half bad defensively either. I dread to think what would happen if we lost him for a few weeks during the run-in. Different Class.

Parker - I'm a huge fan, when the season started badly I couldn't wait for him to come back in but I dont know what to make of his performances. He must be doing what AVB is instructing him to do. during the 1st half everything went through him, like it used to do with Modric but he's no Modric and far too predictable.

Defoe was poor too but then again he had poor service. A lot of high balls played to him that are a complete waste of time. What he normally does - shoot on sight - he didn't do, and he probably should have as that Liverpool keeper - Jones, is well dodgy and should have been tested a lot more.

The only positive (apart from Dembele) was this was probably the piece of reality we needed. Hopefully we can go on another unbeaten run now.

All in all, I dunno who I was more annoyed with - the team and their mistakes that cost us the game or myself - myself for getting too cocky and falling for it all over again. 25 years since I started supporting them as a kid, seen more false dawns then you could shake a stick at and like a fool I thought I could go to Anfield and sit with the home fans and it would be okay, we'd win or draw - never again. Good ole spurs - just when you thought you could rely on them, they let you down a bag full. Will I ever learn.

spursman11

Dembele was class yesterday,2 bad back passes/clearances.we shot ourselves in the foot,against Arsenal and Liverpool we pass the ball back alot and put our selves under more pressure as teams pressurise us in their half.get back on track with a win against Fulham and 4th spot will be ours at the very least.Suarez good player but not a nice person with all his antics,Liverpool kicked us around the pitch,Suarez winding up and kicking players .lets move on and nail the next 3 points,game is over...

Dublin Spur

liverpool didn't beat us, we beat ourselves

2 brainless errors

but I reckon we'll bounce back straight away