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S2S Cycleway - northside

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    #1142
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    mrcheez wrote: »
    In other news, I mentioned the encroaching palm trees opposite the Bus Depot to Sean Haughey and he's going to follow up with the matter.

    He was great in bringing up the S2S project in the Dail several times when I asked him to.

    He has to work extra hard to throw off the shackles of the family name.


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    #1143
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,768 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    mrcheez wrote: »
    In other news, I mentioned the encroaching palm trees opposite the Bus Depot to Sean Haughey and he's going to follow up with the matter.

    He was great in bringing up the S2S project in the Dail several times when I asked him to.

    Got an update to this...
    Question to the Chief Executive Council Meeting 1 st October 2018

    Q.76 COUNCILLOR SEAN PAUL MAHON
    NCA To ask the Chief Executive if he will arrange to cut back overgrown palm trees
    encroaching on the cycle path at (details supplied) in order to improve the vision for
    cyclists and motorists who have to pull in and also cross it.
    Details: Cycle path on the Clontarf Road opposite the Dublin Bus depot

    CHIEF EXECUTIVE’S REPLY:
    These works have been included in the winter shrubbery maintenance programme.

    looks like the system works

    *fingers crossed it's not just a trim*


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    #1144
    Ferris
    Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Well done, great result.


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    #1145
    Ferris
    Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Unfortunately came across an accident on the cycle way at the bus depot on my way home today. A cyclist had run into the side of a car which was crossing the cycle way to get into the public car park there. The gentleman seemed okay. Understandably very pissed off, probably will be sore in the morning.


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    #1146
    Shedite27
    Registered Users Posts: 9,397 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Ferris wrote: »
    Unfortunately came across an accident on the cycle way at the bus depot on my way home today. A cyclist had run into the side of a car which was crossing the cycle way to get into the public car park there. The gentleman seemed okay. Understandably very pissed off, probably will be sore in the morning.
    It's a stupid junction, but the bike lane technically ends for those few meters of the entrance to the car park.

    Glad to hear he was okay


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    #1147
    Ferris
    Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Not sure if that’s the case, there are yield signs for cars too. The whole design is awful. The sight lines for cars and bikes are terrible, the bends into that section are too sharp, the stupid poles in the middle of the cycle way are dangerous and there is ambiguity as to who has right of way.

    Can understand why they faffed around with the unnecessary new section at the alfie byrne end instead of fixing the sections by the bus depot and outside the baths. It’s idiotic.


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    #1148
    RobertFoster
    Registered Users Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    There are stop signs entering and exiting the car park. I think stop signs trump yield signs. That said, aren't they "cycle lane end" rather than yield? Should cyclists technically dismount to cross the entrances?


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    #1149
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    lady cyclist down at the causeway tonight at 6:45ish. a car (which I assume was involved) was pulled up, fire engine & ambulance in attendance. she didn't look badly hurt and was talking to the paramedic as I passed.


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    #1150
    Cionn
    Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Cionn


    The entrance to "the baths" restaurant in Clontarf seems to be worse recently.   Some of the bollards at the entrance have been either removed or moved to facilitate cars turning in.  The side effect is that cards are entering and exiting faster and not looking for cyclists.   Its an accident waiting to happen (or another one to happen), just a matter of time before there is a serious injury.


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    #1151
    cdaly_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Cionn wrote: »
    The entrance to "the baths" restaurant in Clontarf seems to be worse recently.   Some of the bollards at the entrance have been either removed or moved to facilitate cars turning in.  The side effect is that cards are entering and exiting faster and not looking for cyclists.   Its an accident waiting to happen (or another one to happen), just a matter of time before there is a serious injury.

    I had reason to drive into and out of there one morning last week. With the intersection angle, the sightline is awful. I was basically looking through my passenger side B pillar to try to see cyclists.


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    #1152
    thejaguar
    Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    cdaly_ wrote: »
    I had reason to drive into and out of there one morning last week. With the intersection angle, the sightline is awful. I was basically looking through my passenger side B pillar to try to see cyclists.

    I was there on Sunday - it's a bit of a mess. An accident waiting to happen if you ask me - especially over the weekend with increased traffic to the restaurant.

    A mixture of Sunday drivers and Sunday cyclists....


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    #1153
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,768 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Did anyone suggest a workable solution to this?


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    Joe prim
    Registered Users Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


    Effects wrote: »
    He has to work extra hard to throw off the shackles of the family name.

    He could always try giving some of the ill-gotten goods (including islands and millions of Euro)which he inherited from the old devil and donating them to charity. But don't hold your breath.


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    #1155
    cdaly_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Did anyone suggest a workable solution to this?

    Dunno but it could be addressed by a combination of high curbs at the roadside (removing the sweeping turn in) and raising the cycleway onto a plateau which the car has to stop to mount. These measures would significantly slow the cars crossing and alert (ha!) the driver to the fact that they are crossing something significant.


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    #1156
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    as an example - this evening as I was heading out form town a car was exiting the Clontarf side and stopped half way across the line of the cycle path, so blocking inbound cyclists but not outbound. I slowed right down and passed her, trying to make eye contact to ensure she wasn't going to suddenly start moving. she was stopped to put her seat belt on, never once looked for cyclists and was startled by my presence when she noticed me. I think a raised crossing for cyclists which gives cyclists priority would be a huge step forward.


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    #1157
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,818 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    No issues getting past that restaurant area safely this evening..

    Loads of issues from other cyclists with lights on full power/strobe mode cycling on the 2 way cycle track towards me! Pls turn your lights from "road warrior" mode to low power when on a two way cycle track!

    Not to mention the two A**holes who cycled two abreast at speed against me on a narrow curve in the cycle track where the pedestrian crossing is from the cycle track to the old Howth road...Pee-ricks the pair of them!


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    #1158
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,652 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    No issues getting past that restaurant area safely this evening..

    Loads of issues from other cyclists with lights on full power/strobe mode cycling on the 2 way cycle track towards me! Pls turn your lights from "road warrior" mode to low power when on a two way cycle track!

    Not to mention the two A**holes who cycled two abreast at speed against me on a narrow curve in the cycle track where the pedestrian crossing is from the cycle track to the old Howth road...Pee-ricks the pair of them!

    I had the exact same, around 18.50 or so heading back towards town from Sutton. Is it any surprise some motorists have such a low regard of cyclists when it is clear that some cyclists are purely only interested in themselves


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    #1159
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,818 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    I had the exact same, around 18.50 or so heading back towards town from Sutton. Is it any surprise some motorists have such a low regard of cyclists when it is clear that some cyclists are purely only interested in themselves

    Yea it was around that time, maybe the same two cyclists? The were possibly club cyclists with all the gear from what I could see after their front lights almost blinded me!


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    #1160
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,768 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Those palms at the bus depot are seriously pissing me off now. I reckon I'll head out one night with a clippers and chop em all back.

    Can't wait till god knows when for the council to do it.

    If they're gone, you'll know it was me.


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    #1161
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Those palms at the bus depot are seriously pissing me off now. I reckon I'll head out one night with a clippers and chop em all back.

    Can't wait till god knows when for the council to do it.

    If they're gone, you'll know it was me.

    Will you move that sandbag back too? Don't want those loops to catch my bars!


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    #1162
    BrianHenryIE
    Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭BrianHenryIE


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Did anyone suggest a workable solution to this?


    [I don't live in Clontarf anymore but...] I always felt there was no need for the bike lane to be so close the road. The road|footpath|bike-lane|grass|footpath|sea setup always encouraged those walking by the road to walk in the bike lane. If it were situated on the other side road|footpath|grass|bike-lane|footpath|sea, pedestrians would be less inclined to walk in the footpath. That's a long-running gripe of mine (particularly parents pushing buggies in the bike lane), but I figure similarly the problem at the Baths (which I haven't personally experienced) could be solved by the bike lane being closer to the sea than to the road.


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    #1163
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,768 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Those palms at the bus depot are seriously pissing me off now. I reckon I'll head out one night with a clippers and chop em all back.

    Can't wait till god knows when for the council to do it.

    If they're gone, you'll know it was me.

    maybe I missed it due to wind-powered speed on the corner, but it seemed to me that some of the palms were cut back at the sharp corner here today?






    Wasn't me :pac:


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    mr spuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    mrcheez wrote: »
    maybe I missed it due to wind-powered speed on the corner, but it seemed to me that some of the palms were cut back at the sharp corner here today?






    Wasn't me :pac:

    yep I had meant to post the same last night, definitely a few of them gone down to the stump!


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    #1165
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,768 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    yep I had meant to post the same last night, definitely a few of them gone down to the stump!

    your first thought was "mrcheez actually did it" ?


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    #1166
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    mrcheez wrote: »
    your first thought was "mrcheez actually did it" ?

    my first thought actually was "wasn't someone on boards threatening to do it?" :pac:


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    #1167
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    mrcheez wrote: »
    maybe I missed it due to wind-powered speed on the corner, but it seemed to me that some of the palms were cut back at the sharp corner here today?






    Wasn't me :pac:

    could have pruned back the overgrown bush on the other side of the bikelane while they were at it .... :/


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    #1168
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Street lights from the causeway out to Sutton would be nice. Would help to see the dodgy man hole covers and divets in parts of the track.

    See aswell at the section heading towards town at the car park at clontarf yacht club someone has thoughtfully left a few inches of a big rubble bag peeking out from behind the bushes that could catch a peddle


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    #1169
    Cionn
    Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Cionn


    The palm trees cut back in clontarf has made a big improvement, fair play to them for tackling that quite quickly. Now to get the entrance to the Baths restaurant looked at. That is the main area needs to be addressed now. The area around the east link is a disaster but can't see a quick fix for that.


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    #1170
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,768 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    neris wrote: »
    See aswell at the section heading towards town at the car park at clontarf yacht club someone has thoughtfully left a few inches of a big rubble bag peeking out from behind the bushes that could catch a peddle

    Why not stop and drag it back if it's in the way?

    Or ask Sean Haughey to get someone to do it :D


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    #1171
    Rogue-Trooper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Rogue-Trooper


    neris wrote: »
    Street lights from the causeway out to Sutton would be nice. Would help to see the dodgy man hole covers and divets in parts of the track.


    That's a dodgy stretch from Blackbanks all the way to St Fintans school alright. The wall casts a big black shadow over the ground on the outbound lane and, combined with the glare of the oncoming traffic on your left, makes it hard to see. I have a Lezyne XL on full tilt pointing at the ground and it's still hard to see whats coming at you. Had a very close call/near miss with a ped walking towards me in the cycle lane there last winter - didn't see them until I was right in front of them (mind you, I don't know how they missed the fast moving christmas tree bearing down on them:rolleyes:).


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