Gardas wife attacked in home

catallus

Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

Yeah that's what I was saying.

She can have a gun all she likes. They will just bring two guns or bigger guns.

It is not what you are saying at all. You're saying she should have no form of defence because the cowards will have a form of offence to counter-act that. And you conclude that the best form of defence is not to have any defence. Which is nonsensical.

Seachmall wrote: »

It's more comforting to think dangerous criminals are more afraid of you than you are of them.


Like cats. Big, violent, armed cats.

And some people think it's cool to fight and act like a hard man but behind it all they **** their pants when someone stands up to them. Probably someone like the Garda, whose family they terrorised when they couldn't have not known he wasn't home.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

catallus wrote: »

It is not what you are saying at all. You're saying she should have no form of defence because the cowards will have a form of offence to counter-act that. And you conclude that the best form of defence is not to have any defence. Which is nonsensical.

Where did I say she shouldn't have a weapon? I'm just saying what it leads to....shut your nonsense. Telling me what I am "saying" and "concluding".

The only defence now is for the Garda to find these cnuts and kill them....how's that for concluding.

Blackbush1905

SB2013 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gang-beat-up-gardas-wife-in-sinister-attack-on-home-29108532.html



A particularly sinister incident in my view. Add this to the recent case of the politician who tried to hire a hitman to kill a Garda and it's becoming more evident of how dangerous the job is.

What was this about politician hiring hitman to kill gardai? **** if thats true the republics even more ****ed up than i thought it was

Seachmall

catallus wrote: »

And some people think it's cool to fight and act like a hard man but behind it all they **** their pants when someone stands up to them.

Undoubtedly there are plenty of people like that but assuming these two guys are cowards because they act like sociopaths is a bit unfounded.

catallus

Sociopaths are born cowards. They can't interact with the world in an acceptable way. So they kick against it because they are born in fear.

To "send a message" to their enemy by attacking their family?

Come on.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

catallus wrote: »

To "send a message" to their enemy by attacking their family?

Come on.

You deny the above statement?

What other possible reason would people break into a house to kidnap someone who wasn't there? I doubt it was a case of "stupid criminals". To carry out a planned kidnaping you need to know where someone is.

It is more likely that these guys broke into the home to let the Garda know that the could do it any time they want to. The hazyness and unconfirmed motivation for the crime already suggests that this particular Garda has something on someone or is too close to something so should take a step back "or else".

I could be very wrong but it's plausable, you have to agree to that.

No different than a bullet in the post.

irishgirl19

That is shocking my heart goes out to the poor woman and her family. What cowards!

Bipolar Joe

humbert wrote: »

Could you explain the connection between proposed pay cuts and this specific incident? Or are you just talking shit?

You know exactly what that post meant. Don't be a knob and try to derail a thread and instigate an argument.

humbert

Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

You deny the above statement?

What other possible reason would people break into a house to kidnap someone who wasn't there? I doubt it was a case of "stupid criminals". To carry out a planned kidnaping you need to know where someone is.

It is more likely that these guys broke into the home to let the Garda know that the could do it any time they want to. The hazyness and unconfirmed motivation for the crime already suggests that this particular Garda has something on someone or is too close to something so should take a step back "or else".

I could be very wrong but it's plausable, you have to agree to that.

No different than a bullet in the post.

I don't know why they would feign risible ineptitude by asking where he was.

catallus

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SB2013

Blackbush1905 wrote: »

What was this about politician hiring hitman to kill gardai? **** if thats true the republics even more ****ed up than i thought it was

http://www.irishnews.com/news/ex-politician-accused-of-trying-to-hire-hitman-is-refused-bail-1235978

Gary O'Flynn was brought before Cork District Court where he faced three separate charges of soliciting an under-cover garda to kill.
It is alleged the intended victims were Detective Garda Mary Skehan, an official of the Revenue Commissioners named George Ross and accountant Patrick Sweeney.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

humbert wrote: »

I don't know why they would feign risible ineptitude by asking where he was.

Agreed,

I am just, like the rest of us, speculating. None of this incident makes sense.

maybe they were just going to give him a straight forward beating.

humbert

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

You know exactly what that post meant. Don't be a knob and try to derail a thread and instigate an argument.

Every time something happens to a Garda someone comes along with this diatribe about Shatter which is nothing to do with the matter being discussed. I wasn't trying to derail the thread(just the opposite in fact) or start an argument.

Big Bottom

They asked where he was to make it clear to him they know where he lives and to scare him.

Like to see the look on their face if that woman pulled a gun on them.

Blackbush1905

SB2013 wrote: »

http://www.irishnews.com/news/ex-politician-accused-of-trying-to-hire-hitman-is-refused-bail-1235978

and they want NI as ****ed up as it is to join this bananna republic!!

Gee_G

That poor woman! Its an absolute disgrace!
Its worrying how much the scum walking around this country don't have any fear of authority!

I hope the woman, her husband and their children recover fully from this ordeal.

space_man

personally i think this is an indication the these Detectives are being very effective in their work.
hopefully this woman and her children will recover fully from the invasion of the scumbags.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

didn't know there was gangs prepared to do this kind of stuff in Mayo of all places. republican dissidents?

space_man

Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

Agreed,

I am just, like the rest of us, speculating. None of this incident makes sense.

maybe they were just going to give him a straight forward beating.

i think you'll find that most of these scumbags do not hold PhDs. as somebody said earlier, they are only capable of interacting with society through violence, intimidation and threats.

this little escapade is just another example of that inadequacy.

Blackbush1905

georgiecasey wrote: »

didn't know there was gangs prepared to do this kind of stuff in Mayo of all places. republican dissidents?

Well this is what it is republican dissidents cannot operate within NI without M15 /Special branch watching their activities, they have hardly any support (apart from a few spastics in the house at the end of the row)in dirty derry, almost non exsistent in greater belfast area. The only place were these organisations can hold any sway is counties like mayo because if the boys over the border act naughty they ll be joining they're comrades in roes house. They 'll throw there weight about "mayo brigade real ira" but all their every going to be useful for is stroking a van to give to some dublin **** to bring over the border to give to some norn irish dissident whos a tout and tells the peelers about the whole operation!!

B.A._Baracus

HondaSami wrote: »

She was home alone and her children were asleep upstairs, it must have been very scary for her, it's not a laughing matter tbh.

I agree with you.

howeeeeeeeevvvver, why is making jokes at this off-limits whilst other things are not? How many threads have been posted about a famous person dying and que tons of sick jokes? ... in fact, I can't help but think if this story was about a politician it would be jokes galore or even better yet if this was a story about a junkie and his wife being attacked at home it would be "fair game"

Double standards?

flanders1979

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I agree with you.

howeeeeeeeevvvver, why is making jokes at this off-limits whilst other things are not? How many threads have been posted about a famous person dying and que tons of sick jokes? ... in fact, I can't help but think if this story was about a politician it would be jokes galore or even better yet if this was a story about a junkie and his wife being attacked at home it would be "fair game"

Double standards?

I wonder if we would have heard this story if they were not pissed off over cuts?

.jacksparrow.

georgiecasey wrote: »

didn't know there was gangs prepared to do this kind of stuff in Mayo of all places. republican dissidents?

Nah probably too busy slaughtering horses.

space_man

a lot of these idiot local scum are into drug-dealing and many are finding out the hard way that they are now in over their heads.
as a Garda friend of mine once told me you should see the look of sheer panic on their faces when they lose a small consignment, especially if they don't have the readies to replace it.
he said youl'd almost feel sorry for 'em.

SB2013

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I agree with you.

howeeeeeeeevvvver, why is making jokes at this off-limits whilst other things are not? How many threads have been posted about a famous person dying and que tons of sick jokes? ... in fact, I can't help but think if this story was about a politician it would be jokes galore or even better yet if this was a story about a junkie and his wife being attacked at home it would be "fair game"

Double standards?

I think it's more to do with the fact that the guy was presumably targeted because of his work, work which is focused on helping people. It implies a certain level of action criminals are now willing to escalate to in order to preserver their lifestyle, a level which is very disturbing.

flanders1979 wrote: »

I wonder if we would have heard this story if they were not pissed off over cuts?

From me or from the papers? It's worth pointing out that this isn't the first time that a Garda has been followed home or harassed while off duty, it's just the first time I've read about it. It's also an escalation in the level of harassment.

space_man

most of these idiots still live at home with their mammys, and the lifestyle you refer to involves driving around in a nissan micra with a bean can exhaust and a few go-fast stripes, whilst enjoying a few cans of cheap cider, dressed in penny's or dunne's latest chav-gear.

hardly the Corleones.:D