Dublin Marathon 2013: Mod Note #316 NO RACE SWAPS

Cartman78

2 quick unrelated questions:

1) Currently getting over a nasty virus/flu which has meant that I've only ran once in the last 10 days and missed my last planned LSR (35k) last weekend.

Assuming I get over it in the next couple of days - should I still attempt to do the LSR this weekend or try something more conservative (or wrap myself up in cotton wool)?

2) Does anyone know what the process is for collecting someone else's number for DCM? Seems to be some mixed messages on Facebook about signed written consents but haven't heard of this before

belcarra

Cartman78 wrote: »

2 quick unrelated questions:

1) Currently getting over a nasty virus/flu which has meant that I've only ran once in the last 10 days and missed my last planned LSR (35k) last weekend.

Assuming I get over it in the next couple of days - should I still attempt to do the LSR this weekend or try something more conservative (or wrap myself up in cotton wool)?

2) Does anyone know what the process is for collecting someone else's number for DCM? Seems to be some mixed messages on Facebook about signed written consents but haven't heard of this before

1)I'd say maybe do 28-30km if you are feeling fully recovered. 35km might be just too much at this stage. Of course it's dependent on the quality of the rest of your training up til now.

2) I got this message from their info email address yesterday:

If you give your acceptance e mail with photo id and a letter of consent someone else can pick it up for you with their photo ID

Written consent is just a one or two liner signed by you to say you authorise the person holding the letter to pick up your number.

Cartman78

Cheers Belcarra -

Still not 100% after the virus tbh - might err on the side of caution. I think my main goal at this stage will be making it to the start line and finishing in a semi-respectable time

EauRouge79

Cartman78 wrote: »

Cheers Belcarra -

Still not 100% after the virus tbh - might err on the side of caution. I think my main goal at this stage will be making it to the start line and finishing in a semi-respectable time

Difficult enough as it is to deal with missing the last long run, id be worried that the immune system may not yet be 100% and after stressing yourself on a long run this weekend you may end up in a worse condition next week. Just my humble tuppence worth....

TFBubendorfer

Cartman78 wrote: »

Assuming I get over it in the next couple of days - should I still attempt to do the LSR this weekend or try something more conservative (or wrap myself up in cotton wool)?

Never make up a missed workout. If you missed a short amount of training (say, up to 5 days) then just jump right back into the schedule as if nothing had happened and do not try and add additional workouts.

If you're still trying to recover form whatever affected you then absolutely definitely and unquestionably (was that clear enough?) do not try and cramp in extra training.

Cartman78

Thanks for the replies guys.....

I guess the barely audible sensible runner in my head was saying the same thing (ie. don't blow several months of training on doing a long run whilst half-sick/half-recovered) so probably needed to hear from someone else too

Fraggle00

Cartman78 wrote: »

Thanks for the replies guys.....

I guess the barely audible sensible runner in my head was saying the same thing (ie. don't blow several months of training on doing a long run whilst half-sick/half-recovered) so probably needed to hear from someone else too

I suppose I should have listened to a voice in my head that said doing a long run with a sore knee was a bad idea and now I've been limping all week.

Shedite27

Yeah before connemarathon this year I ended up missing about 2 weeks of training due to illness (bout 3 weeks before to 1 week before), and was presently surprised by how well I performed on the day. Probably only bout 5mns slower than I had hoped.

Fraggle00

Shedite27 wrote: »

Yeah before connemarathon this year I ended up missing about 2 weeks of training due to illness (bout 3 weeks before to 1 week before), and was presently surprised by how well I performed on the day. Probably only bout 5mns slower than I had hoped.

That's good to hear. I think I'll focus on rehabilitating my knee and not worry about missing a few runs.

DBK

Got a mad pain in the side of my knee after doing the 10mile Frank Duffy run. Told it was my ITB. Gutted. Took a week off and got back training but with short runs. After a 5 mile run, it hurt like hell. Pain was gone though after about an hour. Cut back training again, seen a physio and he gave me hip strengthing exercises. I just wanted to run but did as I was told. Came to the half marathon and I bottled it as I was still in a little pain. I was gutted but felt I couldn't risk the half marathon over the full one. Back training in full swing now and did a 15 miler last weekend and no pain and felt great. I was so happy I wanted to go back out for another run Roll on the DCM. Sorry for a long story, just wanted to tell someone

Kone

Finished the Kingston Garmin 24 miler today, that's my last long run before DCM done.

Can't wait for DCM now :-)

HelenAnne

The article up on Fit magazine's page today says the pacers are every 15 minutes. Which is right, 10 or 15, I wonder?

Suppose we'll find out at the Expo!

http://www.fitmagazine.ie/magazine/article/hit-your-target-with-a-pace-setter

Actually, just noticed they've said it's wrong & they'll change it!

pistol_75

HelenAnne wrote: »

The article up on Fit magazine's page today says the pacers are every 15 minutes. Which is right, 10 or 15, I wonder?

Suppose we'll find out at the Expo!

http://www.fitmagazine.ie/magazine/article/hit-your-target-with-a-pace-setter

It's deffo 10 mins

HelenAnne

pistol_75 wrote: »

It's deffo 10 mins

Thank you! And they've also just said it's wrong & they'll change it!

menoscemo

HelenAnne wrote: »

Thank you! And they've also just said it's wrong & they'll change it!

Yeah, that was me that told them it was wrong. Being one of the pacers I should know

village runner

menoscemo wrote: »

Yeah, that was me that told them it was wrong. Being one of the pacers I should know

And a good one. Lol

TRR

Anybody still waiting on email confirming number and barcode etc? I got mine but a friend is still waiting on his.

Ososlo

TRR wrote: »

Anybody still waiting on email confirming number and barcode etc? I got mine but a friend is still waiting on his.

I didn't know anything about this. So I should be getting an email from DCM? Must check my spam...

kit3

TRR wrote: »

Anybody still waiting on email confirming number and barcode etc? I got mine but a friend is still waiting on his.

Thanks for this - would have missed email !

patsypantaloni

Ososlo wrote: »

I didn't know anything about this. So I should be getting an email from DCM? Must check my spam...

Yep, I got mine on Friday but it's the type of email that could easily get marked as spam...

The email is from confirmation@eventmaster.ie if that's any help, it gives you a link to your acceptance slip that you need to bring to the expo

martyboy48

TRR wrote: »

Anybody still waiting on email confirming number and barcode etc? I got mine but a friend is still waiting on his.

Haven't got it yet. When did you get yours??

Ososlo

patsypantaloni wrote: »

Yep, I got mine on Friday but it's the type of email that could easily get marked as spam...

The email is from confirmation@eventmaster.ie if that's any help, it gives you a link to your acceptance slip that you need to bring to the expo

cheers for that. Nope checked emails/spam/junk and nada. Maybe I forgot to actually enter:eek::eek::eek:
Wouldn't that be hilarious:D

patsypantaloni

Ososlo wrote: »

cheers for that. Nope checked emails/spam/junk and nada. Maybe I forgot to actually enter:eek::eek::eek:
Wouldn't that be hilarious:D

:eek:

I'm not sure what order they send them out in, but I was in very early (December 31st!) plus they have thousands to send so I'm sure it'll take time to get them all out!

menoscemo

Ososlo wrote: »

cheers for that. Nope checked emails/spam/junk and nada. Maybe I forgot to actually enter:eek::eek::eek:
Wouldn't that be hilarious:D

You can check if you're entered here:
http://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLIN-2013#b=na&v=ptrack

EauRouge79

patsypantaloni wrote: »

:eek:

I'm not sure what order they send them out in, but I was in very early (December 31st!) plus they have thousands to send so I'm sure it'll take time to get them all out!

Damned New Years resolutions eh.......

Cartman78

Still haven't shaken this flu/virus thingy fully - only 1 run now since Galway Half (28th Sept) :eek::mad::eek::mad:

Might have to consider pulling out altogether at this stage - will try a light jog this evening and see how it goes.

Really disappointed tbh - put a big effort in to get into semi-reasonable shape this year and it's all gone t1ts up

PauloMN

Cartman78 wrote: »

Still haven't shaken this flu/virus thingy fully - only 1 run now since Galway Half (28th Sept) :eek::mad::eek::mad:

Might have to consider pulling out altogether at this stage - will try a light jog this evening and see how it goes.

Really disappointed tbh - put a big effort in to get into sem-reasonable shape this year and it's all gone t1ts up

Still two weeks. Run it if you've cleared the flu, just adjust your expectations. The closer we get to the date, the less I'm bothered about the finish time.

Cartman78

PauloMN wrote: »

Still two weeks. Run it if you've cleared the flu, just adjust your expectations. The closer we get to the date, the less I'm bothered about the finish time.

Actually feel remarkably better since I posted that message earlier on....just wanted a bit of a whinge and moan in a forum where people understand
(Mrs. Cartman and everyone else in my social network are no so forgiving )

Yeah...I've been constantly recalibrating my goals over the months. Went from wondering if I'd be able to make the start line to possible outside shot at a PB.

Still (even now) tempted to head out with the 3:30 pacing group and see what happens but would probably be better off maybe jogging around with the 3:45 group

RayCun

Cartman78 wrote: »

Still (even now) tempted to head out with the 3:30 pacing group and see what happens but would probably be better off maybe jogging around with the 3:45 group

It might help your decisionmaking to know that there is no 3.45 group
Pacers are at 3.40 and 3.50

Cartman78

RayCun wrote: »

It might help your decisionmaking to know that there is no 3.45 group
Pacers are at 3.40 and 3.50

I'll aim to position myself midway between the 2 groups so

Will probably start with the 3:30 crowd and work my way back thru the groups like an eejit

RayCun

Cartman78 wrote: »

Will probably start with the 3:30 crowd and work my way back thru the groups like an eejit

That's the hard way to do it. Why not start between 3.40 and 3.50 and look forward to ambling past the 3.40 guys as they pant their way through Clonskeagh?

Cartman78

RayCun wrote: »

That's the hard way to do it. Why not start between 3.40 and 3.50 and look forward to ambling past the 3.40 guys as they pant their way through Clonskeagh?

Yeah..that's the obvious and sensible thing to do alright.

Anyway, hopefully I'm back to normal sometime soon. My 'A' goal at the minute is to make the start line (and the finish line) in reasonable health. Anything beyond that would be a bonus.

Shedite27

I've never run with a pacer group before. Are they very busy? For water stops for example, is it tougher to get a bottle of water without having to queue up or stop. I'm hoping to be around the 3:30 or 3:40 group.

Also, is it a standard pace all the way round or are there pacers who will either try to bank some time or go for negative splits?

RayCun

Shedite27 wrote: »

I've never run with a pacer group before. Are they very busy? For water stops for example, is it tougher to get a bottle of water without having to queue up or stop. I'm hoping to be around the 3:30 or 3:40 group.

Also, is it a standard pace all the way round or are there pacers who will either try to bank some time or go for negative splits?

Same pace all the way around, maybe a few seconds slower or faster on the hills but nothing you'd notice.

The 3.30 and 4.00 groups I ran with were pretty big. Getting water wasn't a problem, but it could feel crowded on some of the narrower/earlier sections. Remember that you don't have to be right beside the pacers to use them, you can be 10m back and keep an eye on their flags, move up closer when the pack thins out.

Cartman78

RayCun wrote: »

Same pace all the way around, maybe a few seconds slower or faster on the hills but nothing you'd notice.

The 3.30 and 4.00 groups I ran with were pretty big. Getting water wasn't a problem, but it could feel crowded on some of the narrower/earlier sections. Remember that you don't have to be right beside the pacers to use them, you can be 10m back and keep an eye on their flags, move up closer when the pack thins out.

(Me again - hogging the thread today)

Only have limited experiece with pacing groups tbh - but seems like most people aim to have the baloon bouncing off their head to keep in touch Also found that some people switch off completely so extra concentration needed to avoid trips/bumps/jostling/schmozzles.

Deffo good advice to hang back from the group/herd and give yourself a bit of space

vinny1313

Cartman78 wrote: »

Still haven't shaken this flu/virus thingy fully - only 1 run now since Galway Half (28th Sept) :eek::mad::eek::mad:

Might have to consider pulling out altogether at this stage - will try a light jog this evening and see how it goes.

Really disappointed tbh - put a big effort in to get into semi-reasonable shape this year and it's all gone t1ts up

I was in a similar position last year, got a chest infection the day after the Charleville half on Sept 23rd and had to rest for nearly 3 weeks, I got in a few runs in the last 2 weeks, the longest of which was 10 miles the weekend before. I was concerned because my last 20 miler was on Sept 16th. However I broke by PB by 17 minutes on the day.

I'm much the same this year. I got a cold the day after my last 20 miler (35k actually) on Sept 8th. Took a week off, got 2 more decent weeks in (a 16 mile in each) and came down with a sinus infection. Took another week off, felt ok then ran for 5 days, including an 11 mile last Wednesday. However I had to accept that I wasn't 100% and had to take a few more days off. If need be I'll do nothing until race day. The main thing is getting there in good health.

28064212

RayCun wrote: »

Remember that you don't have to be right beside the pacers to use them, you can be 10m back and keep an eye on their flags, move up closer when the pack thins out.

10?! Unless you want to strike up a conversation, 100m is close enough

Cartman78

vinny1313 wrote: »

I was in a similar position last year, got a chest infection the day after the Charleville half on Sept 23rd and had to rest for nearly 3 weeks, I got in a few runs in the last 2 weeks, the longest of which was 10 miles the weekend before. I was concerned because my last 20 miler was on Sept 16th. However I broke by PB by 17 minutes on the day.

I'm much the same this year. I got a cold the day after my last 20 miler (35k actually) on Sept 8th. Took a week off, got 2 more decent weeks in (a 16 mile in each) and came down with a sinus infection. Took another week off, felt ok then ran for 5 days, including an 11 mile last Wednesday. However I had to accept that I wasn't 100% and had to take a few more days off. If need be I'll do nothing until race day. The main thing is getting there in good health.

Cheers Vinny - that's given me some encouragement anyway. Would be more than happy to get within 17 mins (plus or minus) of my PB.

Taking a glass half full approach....at least being sick has prevented me from overtraining and getting injured and spunking a load of money on physio :rolleyes:

digger2d2

No head-bouncing balloons either.... Pacers will have flags attached to backpacks....

RunRoryRun

digger2d2 wrote: »

No head-bouncing balloons either.... Pacers will have flags attached to backpacks....

...that's it. I'm out.

FutureGuy

Can anyone recommend a hotel? Will be probably taking the train on Sunday morning and going home either Monday or Tuesday evening.

Was looking at Jurys which is a 1 KM walk away. It's my first marathon so not sure how the legs will be at that stage!

digger2d2

FutureGuy wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a hotel? Will be probably taking the train on Sunday morning and going home either Monday or Tuesday evening.

Was looking at Jurys which is a 1 KM walk away. It's my first marathon so not sure how the legs will be at that stage!

Mespil, Alexander, Davenport all v close to start/finish...

Also a little further but still walkable... The Schoolhouse, Jurys, The Lansdowne, Herbert Park ...

Then, a taxi ride on sore legs to Bewleys Ballsbridge, Four Seasons or back toward the city centre The Westin, Jurys Christchurch or there are a few just over the Liffey on DNS such as Jurys Inn, Clarion IFSC, Gibson

TFBubendorfer

Shedite27 wrote: »

I've never run with a pacer group before. Are they very busy? For water stops for example, is it tougher to get a bottle of water without having to queue up or stop. I'm hoping to be around the 3:30 or 3:40 group.

Also, is it a standard pace all the way round or are there pacers who will either try to bank some time or go for negative splits?

Yes they can be busy, but no it's usually not a problem. 2 years ago I felt the Crumlin road was very congested to the point of being dangerous, but they gave us much more of that road last year and the problem was solved.

Water stops are generally fine and runners in a pace groups are always happy to share drinks (potential hygienic issues get ignored once you're knackered and thirsty )

Pace is as even as possible. And the aim is get home up to half a minute early.

M.J.M.C

Speaking of water stops, the water that will be given out - will it be like the half marathon?
Small bottles, or will it be cups. The bottles are handy to hold onto for a few miles

Ososlo

M.J.M.C wrote: »

Speaking of water stops, the water that will be given out - will it be like the half marathon?
Small bottles, or will it be cups. The bottles are handy to hold onto for a few miles

defo bottles

M.J.M.C

Thanks Ososlo
First Marathon and the thoughts of those cups I was starting to worry ha! Grab one and half of it spills.

Thanks again.

Ososlo

M.J.M.C wrote: »

Thanks Ososlo
First Marathon and the thoughts of those cups I was starting to worry ha! Grab one and half of it spills.

Thanks again.

just in case you're not aware, there's also Lucozade Sport orange flavoured 500ml bottles handed out too. Pop up top. And Spar sports drink too.

rom

Ososlo wrote: »

just in case you're not aware, there's also Lucozade Sport orange flavoured 500ml bottles handed out too. Pop up top. And Spar sports drink too.

If you think about drinking the spar drink you should try it first. It ain't the best, fizzy and reacts with people.

chavezychavez

Lucozade Sport vs Spar sports drink. Tough choice there :rolleyes:

menoscemo

Ososlo wrote: »

just in case you're not aware, there's also Lucozade Sport orange flavoured 500ml bottles handed out too. Pop up top. And Spar sports drink too.

Pretty sure they will have Lucozade sport instead of Spar drink this year.
I doubt they would have both.