The Greatest Injustice of All Time!

cson

That's a quote from one of my mates about last nights sending off. Heat of the moment stuff and all that, and I think we can all agree that it probably isn't but it did get me thinking; what are the greatest footballing injustices of all time?

Maradona's Hand of God?

Henry's handball in the WC Qualifier?

Italy and Spain vs South Korea in 2002?

Arsenal's promotion to the First Division way back when is probably my favourite for quite obvious reasons :P

Professional Griefer

The Chelsea Barca match?

djPSB

Roy Hodgson managing Liverpool.

The_Kew_Tour

Hillsborough

The coverup was disgrace

oldyouth

1973 FA Cup Final - Sunderland 1 Leeds 0.

greendom

WC 82 Semi final France vs Germany

oldyouth

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Hillsborough

The coverup was disgrace

My example was from a football perspective. Yours is genuinely more important than that and wins hands down

Red Crow

Henry's was the worst to take but it must be the ball boy that scored in Brazil! That was madness.

cson

oldyouth wrote: »

My example was from a football perspective. Yours is genuinely more important than that and wins hands down

Just about to say, I was going for from a footballing perspective.

The_Kew_Tour

oldyouth wrote: »

My example was from a football perspective. Yours is genuinely more important than that and wins hands down

I know lad.

Football wise it be france game just because I was there.

The_Kew_Tour

cson wrote: »

Just about to say, I was going for from a footballing perspective.

I know you were just still angers me.

Anyway stick to on Pitch now promise.

The_Kew_Tour

Belgium v Ireland in 81 is another

LuckyLloyd

greendom wrote: »

WC 82 Semi final France vs Germany

Great shout!

Henry's handball is definitely up there.

eagle eye

Suarez handball that stopped a certain goal which ended with a missed penalty and Ghana were robbed of becoming the first African team to make the semi-finals of the World Cup.

The_Kew_Tour

eagle eye wrote: »

Suarez handball that stopped a certain goal which ended with a missed penalty and Ghana were robbed of becoming the first African team to make the semi-finals of the World Cup.

He just did what any player would do. Ref gave what he could a Peno.

adox

The Argentina World Cup in 78 springs to mind. That 6-0 victory for Argentina against Peru when they needed to win by 4 or more always stank. Playing all their group games at night so they knew how the group stood before playing etc.

niallo27

eagle eye wrote: »

Suarez handball that stopped a certain goal which ended with a missed penalty and Ghana were robbed of becoming the first African team to make the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Your not getting the point of the thread I think.

eagle eye

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He just did what any player would do. Ref gave what he could a Peno.

Well it changed my thinking on the rules of the game and instant replay. Firstly we need instant replay and then there should be a rule that if its a certain goal had there not been illegal intervention that a goal should be awarded.

super_furry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3byTNRoxujo

Harald Schumacher getting away with this.

IncognitoMan

The Pedro Mendes goal that wasn't against Roy Carroll.

If that had happened at the other end I'd be fuming

Red Crow

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He just did what any player would do. Ref gave what he could a Peno.

Tht doesn't make it any less of an injustice.

The_Kew_Tour

eagle eye wrote: »

Well it changed my thinking on the rules of the game and instant replay. Firstly we need instant replay and then there should be a rule that if its a certain goal it without illegal intervention that a goal should be awarded.

I hear you and agree.

Just the Ref did the best things throughout the game and gave Penalty.

Henry did what any Irish would of done too. Difference is Ref or linesman should of seen it and disallowed it.

eagle eye

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I hear you and agree.

Just the Ref did the best things throughout the game and gave Penalty.

Henry did what any Irish would of done too. Difference is Ref or linesman should of seen it and disallowed it.

Yeah I'm not castigating the ref but for me it was a great injustice that Ghana ended up losing that game.

Pudsy33

eagle eye wrote: »

Suarez handball that stopped a certain goal which ended with a missed penalty and Ghana were robbed of becoming the first African team to make the semi-finals of the World Cup.

I dont see it an being unjust. He committed a foul, and got the appropriate punishment. Everything was by the book. Scummy, yes. Not an injustice.

klose

Henrys handball for me



Although the fai asking for is to be the 33rd team in wc just makes me laugh when i remember it.

Leiva

Henry.

Pudsy33

Pudsy33 wrote: »

I dont see it an being unjust. He committed a foul, and got the appropriate punishment. Everything was by the book. Scummy, yes. Not an injustice.

Kanchelkis did it for Utd in a Carling cup final and Robbie Keane did it for Spurs.

I'd be disgusted if a player from Liverpool didn't do it to save a certain goal in a similar circumstance.


Henry must be right up there!

The_Kew_Tour

There is about 100 more but I can't think of another.

donfers

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah I'm not castigating the ref but for me it was a great injustice that Ghana ended up losing that game.

do you know what injustice means?

justice was done - a penalty was given and a red card was issued

Washington Irving

In terms of on the pitch, the one that annoyed me (and probably the majority of posters here) the most was the Henry handball. Just the way the tie panned out, Ireland deserved it so much more. It was a hard one to stomach.


I don't think the Suarez vs Ghana one counts really, he was sent off and a penalty was awarded. I'd only include blatant rule breaking that went unpunished, Suarez faced the appropriate punishment so there's not much the ref/FIFA can do.

Ordinary man

Suarez did much the same as henry against macclesfield but his was defended as playing to the whistle but henry's is an injustice??

niallo27

Ordinary man wrote: »

Suarez did much the same as henry against macclesfield but his was defended as playing to the whistle but henry's is an injustice??

Henry knew what he was doing, he even handled it twice. Suarez had the ball booted at his arm but you know this yourself really.

Maire2009

All the dodgy decisions South Korea got against Italy and Spain - not the greatest injustice ever but those games just stank.

I think cheating that appears to come from UEFA/FIFA (how Korea just happened to get a lot of bad decisions their way, same for Barcelona against Chelsea) is proper injustice compared to the likes of Mardonna/Henry/Suarez handling the ball - that's just a bit scummy more than anything.

Hercule Poirot

Wasn't there some F.A. Cup final where the goalkeeper caught a high ball and was then pushed into the net and the goal was allowed to stand?

loyatemu

donfers wrote: »

do you know what injustice means?

justice was done - a penalty was given and a red card was issued

the laws of the game were applied, not the same as "justice"

If Suarez hadn't cynically cheated, Ghana would've gone through and made history - there's no maybes here, the match was literally over.

The ref couldn't have done any more, but the punishment in no way fit the crime.

The_Kew_Tour

Rivaldo - Brazil v Turkey, World Cup 2002 Group Stage. Although not big fan of Turkey but that sending off was bad.

Mendes goal for Spurs v United

I thought I would think of more.

roanoke

A lot of stuff I personally don't count as injustice even if it is cheating (eg Maradona's hand of god). I saw the full game and England weren't even at the races. The right team went through.

By comparison, I'd count this as an injustice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany_1%E2%80%930_Austria_(1982_FIFA_World_Cup)
An actual injustice that resulted in the format of the tournament itself being changed.

KaiserGunner

rarnes1 wrote: »

Kanchelkis did it for Utd in a Carling cup final and Robbie Keane did it for Spurs.

I'd be disgusted if a player from Liverpool didn't do it to save a certain goal in a similar circumstance.


Henry must be right up there!

Whats the difference there? Both incidents are cheating! Just in one incident the ref didnt see the handball whereas in the other incidents the ref did see it and called it a foul.

adox

roanoke wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany_1%E2%80%930_Austria_(1982_FIFA_World_Cup)

Another good shout but you could have at least gone to the effort of explaining it in your post rather than just posting a wiki link.

eagle eye

donfers wrote: »

do you know what injustice means?

justice was done - a penalty was given and a red card was issued

No, justice would have been a goal given to them. A penalty and a red card does not equal a goal.

I realise under the current rules that cannot happen but justice would have been them winning that tie and it didn't happen because of cheating.

mitosis

1966 WC final

The_Kew_Tour

Ronald Koeman in Holland v England World cup qualifier in 1993.

I remember at the time this was major story. Koeman should have been sent off after hacking down English player as he was about to score and he did not get sent off. Then he goes up the other end to score(cracking goal) and Holland went onto win.

I cant be certain but think the result cost England Qualification to WC 94.

adox

mitosis wrote: »

1966 WC final

Again, can you elaborate a bit?

764dak

Maire2009 wrote: »

All the dodgy decisions South Korea got against Italy and Spain - not the greatest injustice ever but those games just stank.

I think cheating that appears to come from UEFA/FIFA (how Korea just happened to get a lot of bad decisions their way, same for Barcelona against Chelsea) is proper injustice compared to the likes of Mardonna/Henry/Suarez handling the ball - that's just a bit scummy more than anything.

What about all the favourable calls that Spain received in 2010 World Cup?

cson

The Luis Garcia goal vs Chelsea in the CL Semi's a few years back is another one.

Come to think of it; Chelsea have been on the wrong end of some terrible decisions; Barcelona twice, that Garcia goal... Hard to feel sympathy for them though. :pac:

Not the greatest injustice by any means but the second yellow shown to RVP a couple of years back was pretty awful too.

kksaints

St Pats vs Shels cup final 1996. Shels keeper carried the ball over the line. Goal not given.

Skylinehead

loyatemu wrote: »

the laws of the game were applied, not the same as "justice"

If Suarez hadn't cynically cheated, Ghana would've gone through and made history - there's no maybes here, the match was literally over.

The ref couldn't have done any more, but the punishment in no way fit the crime.

You can't change a punishment if it's at the end of the match, so lets scrap that argument. I don't see anything wrong with the current punishment for the offence, a red card and a penalty is as bad as the punishment can get.

niallo27

cson wrote: »

The Luis Garcia goal vs Chelsea in the CL Semi's a few years back is another one.

Come to think of it; Chelsea have been on the wrong end of some terrible decisions; Barcelona twice, that Garcia goal... Hard to feel sympathy for them though. :pac:

Not the greatest injustice by any means but the second yellow shown to RVP a couple of years back was pretty awful too.

In fairness with the garcia goal the ref said he would have given a Pen and sent cech off if the goal wasnt given.

The_Kew_Tour

Dont know if you can call this a injustice, but can imagine the uproar if it happened today.

Remember reading this before about qualification for the 1954 World Cup

In Group 6 for World Cup qualification in Europe there was only 2 teams. Turkey and Spain. The First game ended 4-1 to Spain in Madrid. The second game finished 1-0 to hosts so leaving the 2 teams on 2 points each. Goal Difference did not count then.

So the group stage was decided by Play-off on neutral ground and Rome was the venue.

Here's the weird bit

After 2-2 draw a.e.t the game was decided by lots. A 14 year old local ( Roman/italian) boy whose father worked at the stadium, picked Turkey's name from the lots with his eyes blindfolded.

Turkey got to World Cup.

Who says Fifa have not moved on eh?

Seans_Username

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ronald Koeman in Holland v England World cup qualifier in 1993.

I remember at the time this was major story. Koeman should have been sent off after hacking down English player as he was about to score and he did not get sent off. Then he goes up the other end to score(cracking goal) and Holland went onto win.

I cant be certain but think the result cost England Qualification to WC 94.

Moreover it pretty much cost Graham Taylor his job
(40 seconds in for the Koeman challenge, 3:20 for Koeman's free kick)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37PIWoYsj00

loyatemu wrote: »

If Suarez hadn't cynically cheated, Ghana would've gone through and made history

I'm pretty sure they were given a very good chance after that to go through... It's not like once Suarez handed it the final whistle went.

Ghana had their chance to cancel out Suarez's handball and score a goal but they didn't take it.

roanoke

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Dont know if you can call this a injustice, but can imagine the uproar if it happened today.

Remember reading this before about qualification for the 1954 World Cup

In Group 6 for World Cup qualification in Europe there was only 2 teams. Turkey and Spain. The First game ended 4-1 to Spain in Madrid. The second game finished 1-0 to hosts so leaving the 2 teams on 2 points each. Goal Difference did not count then.

So the group stage was decided by Play-off on neutral ground and Rome was the venue.

Here's the weird bit

After 2-2 draw a.e.t the game was decided by lots. A 14 year old local ( Roman/italian) boy whose father worked at the stadium, picked Turkey's name from the lots with his eyes blindfolded.

Turkey got to World Cup.

Who says Fifa have not moved on eh?

You think that's bad? (it is! but I mean it rhetorically)

At Euro 68 the semi final between the Soviet Union and Italy ended 0-0 AET. The winner was decided by a coin-toss.

The SEMI FINAL of the entire frickin tournament! :eek:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=1968/matches/round=175/match=3938/postmatch/report/index.html