revenue issues threat to every homeowner in the country.

Hold up MadsL, you stated you left in 2006 way back in this thread due to no work. Now you are saying you were here and employed when you protested outside Leinster House. What year was the protest again?

Edit: found the post and my memory did not serve me correctly - advised a friend in 2006, spoke about reason for emigrating in next sentence.

mikom

MadsL wrote: »

Do you work evenings? I was employed at the time and managed to get there. Did you support the guarantee?

Self employed, so I work all hours when I get the calls.
You know the self employed, right, the lads with little if any safety net when the jobs dry up.

Of course I did not support the guarantee.

MadsL wrote: »

Now that the debt is Ireland's debt it is, even more so now you have conceded by vote that it is.

How did I vote?
Remind me.

Banjo String

MadsL wrote: »

When did I say that? Way to try and put words in my mouth.
I'm questioning the hyperbole, that's all.

Some families will have to make the choice between food on the table, or paying this tax.

Why did you emigrate? Were you facing a choice like that?

MadsL wrote: »

...while you are here, that freeman attackthetax.com, have you given up promoting it? Why is that?

Fixed it for you, thanks.

MadsL

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Hold up MadsL, you stated you left in 2006 way back in this thread due to no work. Now you are saying you were here and employed when you protested outside Leinster House. What year was the protest again?

Where did I say I left in 2006??

MadsL

mikom wrote: »

Self employed, so I work all hours when I get the calls.
You know the self employed, right, the lads with little if any safety net when the jobs dry up.

Of course I did not support the guarantee.

Were you working that night? Be honest.

How did I vote?
Remind me.

Short memory

SamHall wrote: »

Some families will have to make the choice between food on the table, or paying this tax.

Deferral is an option is it not?

Why did you emigrate? Were you facing a choice like that?

Between paying taxes and food??

Fixed it for you, thanks.

Thank you Sam of the family Hall.

mikom

MadsL wrote: »

Were you working that night? Be honest.

I presume I was.............. and I still am, on this fair isle.


Do "citizens information" know how I voted on Irelands debt?

dxhound2005

SamHall wrote: »

Some families will have to make the choice between food on the table, or paying this tax.

Why did you emigrate? Were you facing a choice like that?


Fixed it for you, thanks.

This might finally bring a stop to people spending hundreds of Euros on food and then throwing it away. If this is a side effect of the LPT it will be such a bonus. Somehow I doubt it though, this effect hasn't been observed in other countries with property tax.


http://www.stopfoodwaste.ie/index.php?id=59&menu=

•1/3 of all food bought is thrown out

•The main food wastes are potatos, bread, apples and meat and fish

•1/2 of all salads bought are thrown out

•1/3 of all bread bought is thrown out

•1/4 of all fruit bought is thrown out


4. How much money is this costing?
Well that depends on how much money you spend on food and whether you waste a lot or not. For some households it can cost well over €1000 each year but the average is closer to €700.

Bruthal

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This might finally bring a stop to people spending hundreds of Euros on food and then throwing it away. If this is a side effect of the LPT it will be such a bonus. Somehow I doubt it though, this effect hasn't been observed in other countries with property tax.


http://www.stopfoodwaste.ie/index.php?id=59&menu=

•1/3 of all food bought is thrown out

•The main food wastes are potatos, bread, apples and meat and fish

•1/2 of all salads bought are thrown out

•1/3 of all bread bought is thrown out

•1/4 of all fruit bought is thrown out


4. How much money is this costing?
Well that depends on how much money you spend on food and whether you waste a lot or not. For some households it can cost well over €1000 each year but the average is closer to €700.

Your some man for these averages stats. I still have not found my 120k savings yet, has anyone else in the thread?

barneystinson

mikom wrote: »

I presume I was.............. and I still am, on this fair isle.

Seriously, what the f&ck - why are you rubbing in the fact that you're in work and still here - how's that relevant?

mikom

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This might finally bring a stop to people spending hundreds of Euros on food and then throwing it away. If this is a side effect of the LPT it will be such a bonus. Somehow I doubt it though, this effect hasn't been observed in other countries with property tax.


http://www.stopfoodwaste.ie/index.php?id=59&menu=

•1/3 of all food bought is thrown out

•The main food wastes are potatos, bread, apples and meat and fish

•1/2 of all salads bought are thrown out

•1/3 of all bread bought is thrown out

•1/4 of all fruit bought is thrown out


4. How much money is this costing?
Well that depends on how much money you spend on food and whether you waste a lot or not. For some households it can cost well over €1000 each year but the average is closer to €700.

I've heard it all now.
Property tax to stop food waste nationally.

Hold on till I get Bob Geldof on the blower and we'll see if we can place a property tax on the mud huts in Africa.
You'll never be hungry again lads.



*Remembers that there are soup kitchens cropping up around Ireland

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mikom

barneystinson wrote: »

Seriously, what the f&ck - why are you rubbing in the fact that you're in work and still here - how's that relevant?

I work in this country.
I own a house.
This tax is being dropped in my lap.

Bruthal

barneystinson wrote: »

Seriously, what the f&ck - why are you rubbing in the fact that you're in work and still here - how's that relevant?

You can say fuck if you want.

He was asked if he was in work.

mfceiling

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This might finally bring a stop to people spending hundreds of Euros on food and then throwing it away. If this is a side effect of the LPT it will be such a bonus. Somehow I doubt it though, this effect hasn't been observed in other countries with property tax.


http://www.stopfoodwaste.ie/index.php?id=59&menu=

•1/3 of all food bought is thrown out

•The main food wastes are potatos, bread, apples and meat and fish

•1/2 of all salads bought are thrown out

•1/3 of all bread bought is thrown out

•1/4 of all fruit bought is thrown out


4. How much money is this costing?
Well that depends on how much money you spend on food and whether you waste a lot or not. For some households it can cost well over €1000 each year but the average is closer to €700.

Bit unfair to make this post.

Many families who can't pay this tax are living on the breadline with no food being wasted.

Remember hearing about a man who was eating own brand cornflakes every day along with his kids...doubt very much he could save €700 a year.

dxhound2005

Bruthal wrote: »

Your some man for these averages stats. I still have not found my 120k savings yet, has anyone else in the thread?

The people who are against property tax know where the money is. Figures are a couple of years old but we were three or four years into the downturn. Their solution is somewhat reminiscent of what is going to happen in Cyprus.

http://www.socialistparty.net/household-charge/771-household-charge-bank-bailouts-robbery

Alternatives to stealth taxes and austerity

Despite the daily media propaganda, there is considerable untapped wealth in Ireland. The country is not broke. Ireland remains 6th out of 27 EU countries in financial wealth, but of course, this wealth is concentrated in a few hands. The Central Bank reported in May that there is €120 billion in Irish bank deposits – why could a wealth tax not be imposed on this rather than taking from households, from our education and health services? Massive natural gas and oil resources could also be explored for the benefit of Irish society, rather than for one or two multinationals.

MadsL

MadsL wrote: »

Where did I say I left in 2006??

My apologies. My memory isn't what it once was. Post edited.

darkhorse

MadsL wrote: »

I took a stand outside of Dáil Éireann the night the Irish state underwrote Irish banking debt. Very few stood with me.

We did'nt know ya were there.

Am Chile

In a matter of days more people turned out to protest in Cyprus in big numbers then any protests seen here in the last five years-putting it into context-IM guessing a lot of ordinary working people in other EU countries are prob wondering if the people of Cyprus can turn out in their thousands against proposed theft of their personal savings in a matter of days-given what has being imposed on ordinary working people in Ireland and what the establishment wants to Impose further down the line-what will it take to get similar numbers out on the streets in Ireland?

Banjo String

MadsL wrote: »

Deferral is an option is it not?

It is, but only to some.
Hence, the whole 'individual circumstances and ability to pay' controversy surrounding the whole thing.

MadsL wrote: »

Between paying taxes and food??

If you like, but I was thinking more in the line of whether or not you were facing a choice of emigration/starvation.

Times must have been pretty bad to leave your daughter on the other side of the world.

Why did you emigrate?

MadsL wrote: »

Thank you Sam of the family Hall.

You're most welcome.

Banjo String

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The people who are against property tax know where the money is. Figures are a couple of years old but we were three or four years into the downturn. Their solution is somewhat reminiscent of what is going to happen in Cyprus.

Personally I prefer to read the literature on why property taxation is such a bad idea from the people who are actually trying to implement it.

http://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/they-will-tax-the-roof-over-your-head-fine-gael-anti-property-tax-leaflet-1994/



The socialist party are not running the country Dx hound, FG and Labour are.

Chinasea

tayto lover wrote: »

It's outrageous Joe, that the Govt want a LPT from those people. Decent people struggling to survive in squalor and chaos. Lives a misery. Yet the developers escaped scot free.

This kind of bullying has to be opposed. No personal agenda ah, ah?........

De Govt, de govern'ment, de govern'ment, de govern'ment, de developers, de developers...

Blame left, blame right, blame blame blame but no solutions only further dysfunction.

Bruthal

Chinasea wrote: »

De Govt, de govern'ment, de govern'ment, de govern'ment, de developers, de developers...

Blame left, blame right, blame blame blame but no solutions only further dysfunction.

Mr blame everyone else but himself will be along to thank your post later, possibly.

dr.bollocko

We're done.