Has the Law Changed -- illegal taxi ranks etc

doubletrouble?

oisindoyle wrote: »

I dont need proof of illegal ranks I see them every day and night of the week .It's disgraceful and the Gards don't care or move them on ,which they should.

at last we agree on something oisin. i have seen the guards move taxi's on plenty of times but as soon as the guard goes another driver moves in but lets be honest here the guards are over stretched as it is without having to have them babysit the so called hot spots of illegal ranks.

Spook_ie wrote: »

You say WEwho do you mean by we I know of at least one poster to this thread and possibly one other who I don't think share your sentiment.

Cue Peppa Pig as a possible and Cson as a definite.

Also as to the Gards, would it be so difficult for the ones standing at the GPO to patrol the street and even wave their torch at them to get them to move on, or could it just be possible that they turn a blind eye to it to avoid the crowd disorder that is usually associated with drunken people in Dublin and that they would rather they were removed from the area by the illegally ranked taxis?

i am not going to divulge who "we" are. did you not know they're there to hold up the wall at the G.P.O. in case the building falls down :rolleyes:. there are so many taxi's and so many illegal ranks it would be virtually impossible to enforce them all.
but as i said i have seen drivers make their own illegal ranks while others literally yards away lie half empty.
B.T.W. oisin this so called arm chair critic has also gone into other taxi forumns and where your colleagues bitch and moan about being harassed by the guards when they are told to move on.
correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't there a stand off between the guards and taxi drivers when the guards went in to control illegal parking. F.Y.I. the rank at the gresham to be exact.one could almost say it nearly turned into a riot.

Victor

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

Of course Mr. Psychic, you would know exactly how much of the thread we've all read....

Spook_ie wrote: »

If you haven't bothered to read the thread and want to just jump in willynilly then expect to be chastised

No name calling. Constructive posts only please.

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oisindoyle

doubletrouble? wrote: »

at last we agree on something oisin. i have seen the guards move taxi's on plenty of times but as soon as the guard goes another driver moves in but lets be honest here the guards are over stretched as it is without having to have them babysit the so called hot spots of illegal ranks..

Babysit? The Gards are there to uphold the law.If drivers are parking illegally and plying for hire illegally ,the Gards should do something about it. But you think thats called "babysitting" ,how strange.

doubletrouble? wrote: »

but as i said i have seen drivers make their own illegal ranks while others literally yards away lie half empty...

I havnt seen a "half empty rank " in years .Given the amount of taxis on the streets of Dublin now I very much doubt it.

doubletrouble? wrote: »

B.T.W. oisin this so called arm chair critic has also gone into other taxi forumns and where your colleagues bitch and moan about being harassed by the guards when they are told to move on. .

And so?

doubletrouble? wrote: »

correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't there a stand off between the guards and taxi drivers when the guards went in to control illegal parking. F.Y.I. the rank at the gresham to be exact.one could almost say it nearly turned into a riot.

I will correct you ,yes you are wrong.

Spook_ie

doubletrouble? wrote: »

at last we agree on something oisin. i have seen the guards move taxi's on plenty of times but as soon as the guard goes another driver moves in but lets be honest here the guards are over stretched as it is without having to have them babysit the so called hot spots of illegal ranks.

i am not going to divulge who "we" are. did you not know they're there to hold up the wall at the G.P.O. in case the building falls down :rolleyes:. there are so many taxi's and so many illegal ranks it would be virtually impossible to enforce them all.
but as i said i have seen drivers make their own illegal ranks while others literally yards away lie half empty.
B.T.W. oisin this so called arm chair critic has also gone into other taxi forumns and where your colleagues bitch and moan about being harassed by the guards when they are told to move on.
correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't there a stand off between the guards and taxi drivers when the guards went in to control illegal parking. F.Y.I. the rank at the gresham to be exact.one could almost say it nearly turned into a riot.

Well if they can't or won't police a rank that's less than 50 meters away, you're gonna have to have a whole new rethink

foggy_lad

Spook_ie wrote: »

Well if they can't or won't police a rank that's less than 50 meters away, you're gonna have to have a whole new rethink

How about taxi drivers stop breaking the law by starting and joining illegal ranks and costing the state a fortune in Gardai enforcement? How is that for a re-think?

HivemindXX

If Spook was a burglar he would be "playing devils advocate" and telling us that burglaries are really the fault of the victims for having such nice stuff, or the people who buy the stolen goods, or the guards for not doing more to stop them or the government for not giving out free money to burglars. Basically anyone except the burglars themselves. He would then attempt to tug at the heart strings by saying that in these times of economic hardship burglars need to feed their families and he will make no apologies for that.

I know all this because he wheels out these paper thin excuses every time someone wonders why taxi drivers seem to be able to get away with breaking the law as they like.

"Johnny made me do it" wasn't a good enough excuse when you were a child and it shouldn't be now.

Let's deal with the excuses one by one, not that it will make a blind bit of difference.

"The customers made me do it!"
From what I see the majority of illegal parking by taxis is by extending an existing rank out the rear and in to traffic. Customers go to the front of the rank and take a legally parked taxi. Even if that weren't true it wouldn't make any difference, just because random strangers are willing to take advantage of illegal activity doesn't make it any less illegal. It's also a highly hypocritical position since apparently taxis must park illegally due to the desires of these hypothetical customers but they don't feel any need to move on when the traffic they are blocking builds up behind them.

"The regulator made me do it!"
The gist of this one is that there aren't enough taxi ranks therefore taxis can park wherever they like. Once again, just because you don't like something doesn't give you any right to break the law. Complain to the regulator, do more radio work, get the taxi federation to buy some parking somewhere. If you don't like your working conditions you don't get to simply break the law as some sort of payback.

"The guards made me do it by not trying to stop me hard enough!"
This one is particularly funny. It goes 'sure the guards often turn a blind eye and even when they don't they just move drivers on and we go 100m down the road and park illegally again. Obviously this means it's ok'. I think the guards would be only too happy to be able to hand out significant penalties for illegal activity by taxi drivers. If anyone wants to start a campaign for meaningful powers allowing the guards to stop this sort of illegal parking I'm totally behind it.

monument

One 24 hour ban and thread locked until I can have a better look.