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Top 10 Irish-born Boxers

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    #32
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,682 ✭✭✭Worztron


    The Pheasant wrote: »
    Ah well then definitely throw Gardiner in there! And yeah you're right, although I think Tunney should still be eligible since both his parents were Irish, giving him 100% Irish blood

    Gene Tunney certainly is Irish but I had to have some limit otherwise we'd have to include Irish-Canadian, Irish-English, etc. and it could get too cumbersome.

    Include Irish-born (or those of Irish nationality e.g. Andy Lee, etc.)

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    #33
    Worztron
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    Revision 2
    1. Peter Maher
    2. Jimmy McLarnin
    3. John Monaghan
    4. Tom Sharkey
    5. Jack Dempsey (Nonpareil)
    6. Katie Taylor
    7. Barry McGuigan
    8. Steve Collins
    9. Michael Carruth
    10. Freddie Gilroy

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    #34
    slapbangwallop
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    Andy Lee is Irish but not Irish-born.

    I'm friendly with Andy but how he makes a top ten is baffling. He hasn't achieved anything of significant note yet in his career.


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    #35
    Worztron
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    slapbangwallop wrote: »
    Andy Lee is Irish but not Irish-born.

    I'm friendly with Andy but how he makes a top ten is baffling. He hasn't achieved anything of significant note yet in his career.

    I updated my top 10 and look here re Andy Lee: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83608930&postcount=32

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    #36
    rusheen
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    Worztron wrote: »
    Revision 2
    1. Peter Maher
    2. Jimmy McLarnin
    3. John Monaghan
    4. Tom Sharkey
    5. Jack Dempsey (Nonpareil)
    6. Katie Taylor
    7. Barry McGuigan
    8. Steve Collins
    9. Michael Carruth
    10. Freddie Gilroy
    So your including McGuigan who wants to to british ? and excluding sons of erin who were born abroad ?


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    #37
    Worztron
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    rusheen wrote: »
    So your including McGuigan who wants to to british ? and excluding sons of erin who were born abroad ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_McGuigan >> Nationality = Irish
    I have to draw the line somewhere.
    Why don't you put in your top 10?

    Check out my new thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83642651#post83642651

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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    #38
    gene_tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭gene_tunney


    This who is Irish and who is not Irish debate is one of the most tedious recurring debates we get on here. It tends to bring out the Celtic-supporting, dutch gold drinking rabblement, as well as the Leinster-supporting, smoked salmon eating west Brits.


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    #39
    Worztron
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    Revision 3
    1. Peter Maher
    2. Jimmy McLarnin
    3. John Monaghan
    4. Tom Sharkey
    5. Jack Dempsey (Nonpareil)
    6. Jack McAuliffe
    7. Barry McGuigan
    8. Steve Collins
    9. Katie Taylor
    10. Michael Carruth

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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    #40
    barney4001
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    Worztron wrote: »
    Revision 3
    1. Peter Maher
    2. Jimmy McLarnin
    3. John Monaghan
    4. Tom Sharkey
    5. Jack Dempsey (Nonpareil)
    6. Jack McAuliffe
    7. Barry McGuigan
    8. Steve Collins
    9. Katie Taylor
    10. Michael Carruth


    peter maher/////////////////????????????????????


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    #41
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,682 ✭✭✭Worztron


    barney4001 wrote: »
    peter maher/////////////////????????????????????

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Maher_%28boxer%29

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    #42
    Big Ears
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    Worztron wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Maher_%28boxer%29

    I'm sure he knows who he is, I think he's getting at the point that Maher wasn't really that good a fighter. So much to the point I'd suspect someone who places him at the top of a top 10 Irish boxers list as trolling.


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    #43
    Worztron
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    Big Ears wrote: »
    I'm sure he knows who he is, I think he's getting at the point that Maher wasn't really that good a fighter. So much to the point I'd suspect someone who places him at the top of a top 10 Irish boxers list as trolling.

    Peter Maher was Heavyweight Champion of the World. His boxing record was excellent.

    Your suspicions are blatantly wrong. Retract your troll allegation.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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    #44
    gene_tunney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭gene_tunney


    Maher is underrated and underacknowledged, only getting recognised lately after Mattie Donnellan's book. I wouldn't have him in my top 10, but he wouldn't be far outside it.


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    #45
    Big Davey
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Big Davey


    Christy Elliot, anybody ?


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    #46
    Big Ears
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    Worztron wrote: »
    Peter Maher was Heavyweight Champion of the World. His boxing record was excellent.

    Your suspicions are blatantly wrong. Retract your troll allegation.

    He was blown away by the top fighters of his time, stopped in 3 rounds by Peter Jackson, and 1 by Bob Fitzsimmons (also in 12 by Fitzsimmons). He only won the World Heavyweight title because he was nominated to fight for it by Corbett (who had vacated it) against quite a poor opponent in the form of Steve O'Donnell. Many disputed the decision for Maher and O'Donnell to fight for the title, and quite a large number of people didn't recognise him as champion.

    Infact he wasn't even the best Irish Heavyweight of the time period, Tom Sharkey was, who also was Heavyweight champion (albeit due to even more controversial circumstances), yet you rank Sharkey 4th overall.
    Now Maher certainly wasn't a bad fighter, he was a legitimate top Heavyweight contender/extremely fortunate 'champion' in his time, but he just wasn't near the same level of the top guys.

    Rating him above McLarnin, who has beaten more hall of fame boxers than anyone ever, and had no dispute as to the legitimacy of his title claim, well that's just unfathomable.


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    #47
    The Pheasant
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭The Pheasant


    Guys seriously George Gardner, how has he not been mentioned?! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gardiner_(boxer)


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    #48
    barney4001
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    Big Ears wrote: »
    I'm sure he knows who he is, I think he's getting at the point that Maher wasn't really that good a fighter. So much to the point I'd suspect someone who places him at the top of a top 10 Irish boxers list as trolling.

    I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING BOXING FOR NIGH ON 70 YEARS AND I NEVER HEARD OF MAHER OR HEARD HIM EVEN MENTIONED,GUESS HE SLIPPED THROUGH THE NET


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    #49
    Big Davey
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    The pink panther has to be top 10 ? Irish pro champ at 3 weights !


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    #50
    gene_tunney
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    barney4001 wrote: »
    I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING BOXING FOR NIGH ON 70 YEARS AND I NEVER HEARD OF MAHER OR HEARD HIM EVEN MENTIONED,GUESS HE SLIPPED THROUGH THE NET

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    #51
    Worztron
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    1. Jimmy McLarnin
    2. John Monaghan
    3. Jack McAuliffe
    4. George Gardiner
    5. Jack Dempsey (Nonpareil)
    6. Tom Sharkey
    7. Peter Maher
    8. Barry McGuigan
    9. Steve Collins
    10. Jim Rock

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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