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babyjesus14

Southern Belle wrote: »

Intentional or not, that's an insult to the man. If he was with any other county he'd be a definite starter still. We're lucky to have other options but he is most definitely still a viable option to play and make a difference, not just come on for a lap of honour.

How is an insult? I've being attending Kilkenny matches for 40 years and Henry is the greatest hurler i've ever seen and i would hate to see him starting and have to be called ashore, which i fear he would be!

IrishAlice

babyjesus14 wrote: »

How is an insult? I've being attending Kilkenny matches for 40 years and Henry is the greatest hurler i've ever seen and i would hate to see him starting and have to be called ashore, which i fear he would be!

Up until the final I would have been of the same opinion but not now.

I'd much prefer to see him start and if he needs to be taken off so be it.

Better than putting him on 4 minutes from the end. I've huge respect for Cody but in my view that was an error on his behalf.

adrian522

The word seems to be that he will start. Padraig Walsh too.

Is the team announced on Thursday as it's a Saturday game?

Nickindublin

Cody will do what's best for KK on Saturday. If Henry is good enough he will start. Same with Tommy. I do believe Walter and Joey will be dropped I think P Walsh will go in for Joey and Henry or J Power will come in for Walter. But make no mistake Cody will only be thinking about winning. Anyone know if KK will name the team Thursday or Friday?

tbiggertycome

babyjesus14 wrote: »

How is an insult? I've being attending Kilkenny matches for 40 years and Henry is the greatest hurler i've ever seen and i would hate to see him starting and have to be called ashore, which i fear he would be!

What is so wrong with calling Henry ashore? If any of the lads are not performing you take them off that goes for Henry too. I don't think the vision of Henry going off is as devastating as it was in 2010, to either the fans or players, almost all would expect it.

However the difference Henry could provide for 40 or 50 minutes is that he takes watching. If you don't have one man on him and another very close by he will do a lot of damage. This gives our lads an extra yard or two on the defender who is caught between marking them and doubling up on Henry. If they don't watch him he'll hurt them. If they do watch him it gives others the chance to do the same.

With all the talk about his legs no-one seems to think he can last 70 mins. M Rice said in the paper he's never seen him as fit and I'd have to say I talked to him a few weeks before the drawn game and he looked in great shape. We all know he has the ability so the question is why hasn't Cody started him up to now?

I believe the reason he didn't start him up to the Limerick match was his foot (hairline fracture) was still healing and hadn't trained enough. The only reason he could have left him off the starting 15 for the AI was that he wasn't hurling better than the lads who were starting.

Now I know Wally had a very quite final but I also know for a fact he was hurling out of his skin in training before the first match and probably edged Henry or Padraig out as a result. The fact Wally couldn't transfer his form to the big day is very disappointing to say the least but I also felt from the time I heard the team named that Wally was being put in to disrupt more than to be a scorer. The one noticeable thing is that B Maher who has on Wally a lot of the day also had a very quite day this is the only defence I can offer for Wally.

I think play Henry, he's experience and the attention the Tipp boys will have to give him is worth 3 or 4 points at least. My only previso is not to play him in the corners, put him on at wing, centre or full forward no problem at all.

tbiggertycome

Nickindublin wrote: »

Cody will do what's best for KK on Saturday. If Henry is good enough he will start. Same with Tommy. I do believe Walter and Joey will be dropped I think P Walsh will go in for Joey and Henry or J Power will come in for Walter. But make no mistake Cody will only be thinking about winning. Anyone know if KK will name the team Thursday or Friday?

Supposed to be thursday night after training.

babyjesus14

tbiggertycome wrote: »

What is so wrong with calling Henry ashore? If any of the lads are not performing you take them off that goes for Henry too. I don't think the vision of Henry going off is as devastating as it was in 2010, to either the fans or players, almost all would expect it.

However the difference Henry could provide for 40 or 50 minutes is that he takes watching. If you don't have one man on him and another very close by he will do a lot of damage. This gives our lads an extra yard or two on the defender who is caught between marking them and doubling up on Henry. If they don't watch him he'll hurt them. If they do watch him it gives others the chance to do the same.

With all the talk about his legs no-one seems to think he can last 70 mins. M Rice said in the paper he's never seen him as fit and I'd have to say I talked to him a few weeks before the drawn game and he looked in great shape. We all know he has the ability so the question is why hasn't Cody started him up to now?

I believe the reason he didn't start him up to the Limerick match was his foot (hairline fracture) was still healing and hadn't trained enough. The only reason he could have left him off the starting 15 for the AI was that he wasn't hurling better than the lads who were starting.

Now I know Wally had a very quite final but I also know for a fact he was hurling out of his skin in training before the first match and probably edged Henry or Padraig out as a result. The fact Wally couldn't transfer his form to the big day is very disappointing to say the least but I also felt from the time I heard the team named that Wally was being put in to disrupt more than to be a scorer. The one noticeable thing is that B Maher who has on Wally a lot of the day also had a very quite day this is the only defence I can offer for Wally.

I think play Henry he's experience and the attention the Tipp boys will have to give him is worth 3 or 4 points at least. My only previso is not to play him in the corners wing, centre or full forward no problem at all.

I think the notion that Tipp will double up on Henry is laughable, Cathal Barrett hurled the ears off him in the league final. Why would they need to make special arrangements for him.
I don't think anyone doubts his physical condition, i think the issue is his loss of pace and mobility. He clearly struggled to get to the pitch of the game when he came on against Limerick.

tbiggertycome

babyjesus14 wrote: »

I think the notion that Tipp will double up on Henry is laughable, Cathal Barrett hurled the ears off him in the league final. Why would they need to make special arrangements for him.
I don't think anyone doubts his physical condition, i think the issue is his loss of pace and mobility. He clearly struggled to get to the pitch of the game when he came on against Limerick.

You obviously didn't read what I said?:rolleyes: I said not to play him in corners as it's the one place in the forwards where you have to out run your man to get the ball 90% of the time. Personally Henry was never a phenomenal sprinter and never had the pace of say C Fennelly he may have lost a small bit of acceleration over the first few yards but other than that he's no different. You also need to remember that Henry picked up his hairline fracture in that match and that Barrett used Henry as his very own personal set of Monkey Bars he spent so long hanging out of him all day. From watching that match back the other day and more so from my recollection of being there Barrett really only out stripped Henry for pace twice and once in fact he swung out of Henry for so long that he beat Henry to the ball. The ref blew a free in and the Tipp crowd went nuts but what the tv didn't show and many didn't see was that Barrett held Henry for 7 to 10 yards while they ran across the square.
He did struggle on the day but if you watch that match back you will see he actually had two lads on him everytime the ball go to him and I thought he fought very well given the attention and the conditions on the day.

dcrosskid

tbiggertycome wrote: »

You obviously didn't read what I said?:rolleyes: I said not to play him in corners as it's the one place in the forwards where you have to out run your man to get the ball 90% of the time. Personally Henry was never a phenomenal sprinter and never had the pace of say C Fennelly he may have lost a small bit of acceleration over the first few yards but other than that he's no different. You also need to remember that Henry picked up his hairline fracture in that match and that Barrett used Henry as his very own personal set of Monkey Bars he spent so long hanging out of him all day. From watching that match back the other day and more so from my recollection of being there Barrett really only out stripped Henry for pace twice and once in fact he swung out of Henry for so long that he beat Henry to the ball. The ref blew a free in and the Tipp crowd went nuts but what the tv didn't show and many didn't see was that Barrett held Henry for 7 to 10 yards while they ran across the square.
He did struggle on the day but if you watch that match back you will see he actually had two lads on him everytime the ball go to him and I thought he fought very well given the attention and the conditions on the day.

Ah come on now, I was there that day too and Henry was more interested in the dragging and pulling as he wasn't able to get out in front of him at all. That free that you said was the right call was a ridiculous decision and you are actually the first person I have heard that has argued its validity in any shape or form. I had a perfect view of it & Henry was trying to run across Barrett's path & somehow the ref thought it was a free in.

As much as I admire Shefflin as a hurler, I would be happy if he did start on Saturday. Everyone is aware of his talent but he doesn't have the legs to start anymore. The injuries have started to weigh up & it's a pity for him but such is life. He may still go out on a high, who's to know but I would be more concerned if Taggy Fogarty or John Power were starting intead.

babyjesus14

tbiggertycome wrote: »

You obviously didn't read what I said?:rolleyes: I said not to play him in corners as it's the one place in the forwards where you have to out run your man to get the ball 90% of the time. Personally Henry was never a phenomenal sprinter and never had the pace of say C Fennelly he may have lost a small bit of acceleration over the first few yards but other than that he's no different. You also need to remember that Henry picked up his hairline fracture in that match and that Barrett used Henry as his very own personal set of Monkey Bars he spent so long hanging out of him all day. From watching that match back the other day and more so from my recollection of being there Barrett really only out stripped Henry for pace twice and once in fact he swung out of Henry for so long that he beat Henry to the ball. The ref blew a free in and the Tipp crowd went nuts but what the tv didn't show and many didn't see was that Barrett held Henry for 7 to 10 yards while they ran across the square.
He did struggle on the day but if you watch that match back you will see he actually had two lads on him everytime the ball go to him and I thought he fought very well given the attention and the conditions on the day.

That's modern day hurling teams defend in packs, in his prime he would have been able to make space for himself against Limerick he wasn't.

tbiggertycome

babyjesus14 wrote: »

That's modern day hurling teams defend in packs, in his prime he would have been able to make space for himself against Limerick he wasn't.

Thats fair enough I'd agree with that. He didn't that day but having seen him earlier in the league and Walsh cup he still has the touches, the brain and vision to out fox most defenders. I think if he's on the field for 40 odd minutes he will get opportunities to hurt Tipp and if he gets opportunities there isn't any Kilkenny player I'd prefer to have the options in front of him. The real question is would you play Henry or Wally if you had the choice? If you'd pick Wally I respect that but I'd pick Henry all day long because they seem the only likely options Cody will go with with P Walsh more likely to replace J Holden. Although trying to guess what team Cody will pick is nigh on impossible for the last 3 to 4 years.

Grats

tbiggertycome wrote: »

Thats fair enough I'd agree with that. He didn't that day but having seen him earlier in the league and Walsh cup he still has the touches, the brain and vision to out fox most defenders. I think if he's on the field for 40 odd minutes he will get opportunities to hurt Tipp and if he gets opportunities there isn't any Kilkenny player I'd prefer to have the options in front of him. The real question is would you play Henry or Wally if you had the choice? If you'd pick Wally I respect that but I'd pick Henry all day long because they seem the only likely options Cody will go with with P Walsh more likely to replace J Holden. Although trying to guess what team Cody will pick is nigh on impossible for the last 3 to 4 years.

I agree and would have started Henry the last day. Having watched him with his club I would have no hesitation. If his opponent does manage to counteract him it will follow that that opponent will be kept busy anyway. I would go back to basics and have Henry lead the forwards. No better man at directing operations. And if he does have to be taken off, so what. Wally and M Kelly have had to be taken off in the last two matches.

Whiskey Nose 14

Grats wrote: »

I wondered that myself. The last I recall of them was around this stage before the drawn match when they defended themselves and Kilkenny against the usual suspects. Perhaps they're suffering for their stand.

Its a pity as both contributed greatly to the thread. Its because of genuine people like that I decided to join boards only recently having monitered this thread for a long time. It would be nice to see them come back to drown out some of the childish carry on which has been going on of late which is from a number off posters. Perhaps they got fed up of that too, who knows

Grats

Whiskey Nose 14 wrote: »

Its a pity as both contributed greatly to the thread. Its because of genuine people like that I decided to join boards only recently having monitered this thread for a long time. It would be nice to see them come back to drown out some of the childish carry on which has been going on of late which is from a number off posters. Perhaps they got fed up of that too, who knows

Yes, I agree entirely. Genuine is the word. Hope they're not being punished for taking a stand while the real culprits continue with their antagonism.

Justice for the individual

Grats wrote: »

Yes, I agree entirely. Genuine is the word. Hope they're not being punished for taking a stand while the real culprits continue with their antagonism.

There was childish carry on for a while back, and warnings were issued by the Mods. I was criticised by some posters for offering an opinion and asking them to cool things a bit. I support Kilkenny, go to as many matches as I can including club and underage. I will shout and cheer as loud as anyone, so I don't think anybody can question my support and commitment to the Kilkenny cause.

After saying that, I think that the two guys are genuine supporters and may have got dragged into a verbal batting with some Tipperary supporters who are regulars on this thread.

We have got to be mature about all this and enter into discussions, accepting each other's opinions without too much rancour or taking things too seriously.

I for one, enjoyed their excellent inputs into the discussion, and hopefully we will have them back very soon??

mercury16

Hard to know whether or not to start Shefflin...

To be fair, he cannot keep up with the pace of the game, so he has to stay close to goal or give him a job to wander/ghost into any of the front six positions...dragging the back all over the place and probably chipping in with a few scores...

Starting him centre forward or wing forward on P Maher and have him to wander could do some damage..cos there is no way that they will leave him off thinking he's past it, and P Maher is a very lose marker..

babyjesus14

tbiggertycome wrote: »

Thats fair enough I'd agree with that. He didn't that day but having seen him earlier in the league and Walsh cup he still has the touches, the brain and vision to out fox most defenders. I think if he's on the field for 40 odd minutes he will get opportunities to hurt Tipp and if he gets opportunities there isn't any Kilkenny player I'd prefer to have the options in front of him. The real question is would you play Henry or Wally if you had the choice? If you'd pick Wally I respect that but I'd pick Henry all day long because they seem the only likely options Cody will go with with P Walsh more likely to replace J Holden. Although trying to guess what team Cody will pick is nigh on impossible for the last 3 to 4 years.

I don't doubt his ability but as i said earlier when the intensity was stepped up in the league final and against Limerick he really struggled to impose himself on the game.
However if the rumours are true it seems like he is going to start for Wally. Padraig Walsh and Kieran Joyce also rumoured to have been playing with the A team in training.

tbiggertycome

babyjesus14 wrote: »

I don't doubt his ability but as i said earlier when the intensity was stepped up in the league final and against Limerick he really struggled to impose himself on the game.
However if the rumours are true it seems like he is going to start for Wally. Padraig Walsh and Kieran Joyce also rumoured to have been playing with the A team in training.

I read that from Jackie Cahill too. However I'd heard from last weekend from a reputable source that there had actually been no changes at all to the A team from the drawn match. I hope the Jackie Cahill situation is the truth to be honest I'd prefer to see those lads in although I don't know if Joyce will come in instead of B Hogan as he has suggested.

Hitchens

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I read that from Jackie Cahill too. However I'd heard from last weekend from a reputable source that there had actually been no changes at all to the A team from the drawn match. I hope the Jackie Cahill situation is the truth to be honest I'd prefer to see those lads in although I don't know if Joyce will come in instead of B Hogan as he has suggested.

please, no.................just..........please :eek:

realdanbreen

I just read that article in the Kilkenny People by David Walsh. By Jesus I hope its nailed to the Tipp dressing room door !

babyjesus14

realdanbreen wrote: »

I just read that article in the Kilkenny People by David Walsh. By Jesus I hope its nailed to the Tipp dressing room door ![/QU

Is that the article from 3 weeks ago?

Realt Dearg Sec

realdanbreen wrote: »

I just read that article in the Kilkenny People by David Walsh. By Jesus I hope its nailed to the Tipp dressing room door !

Why, are they lacking motivation as usual?

Charlie69

babyjesus14 wrote: »

I don't doubt his ability but as i said earlier when the intensity was stepped up in the league final and against Limerick he really struggled to impose himself on the game.
However if the rumours are true it seems like he is going to start for Wally. Padraig Walsh and Kieran Joyce also rumoured to have been playing with the A team in training.

There's no doubting the fact that Henry had a difficult time on Barrett in the league final, but Barrett has proved himself to be a difficult opponent for anyone he has come up against this year including a bang in form Patrick Horgan whom he kept very quiet in the semi final.

I also think Barrett gets away with a lot of holding and pulling and dragging and in almost every photo he was in after the drawn game he could be seen to be fouling his opponent, but he seems to have his technique perfected to the point that he does enough to unsettle his opponent without conceding too many frees.

Don't get me wrong I would want my corner back to do exactly the same and i suppose that's what people mean when they speak of playing "on the edge".

I'd start Henry every time by the way.

realdanbreen

babyjesus14 wrote: »

realdanbreen wrote: »

I just read that article in the Kilkenny People by David Walsh. By Jesus I hope its nailed to the Tipp dressing room door ![/QU

Is that the article from 3 weeks ago?

Yes, I only read it a few minutes ago. I'm livid! I'm after smashing a hurl off the kitchen table! Roll on Saturday.

Whiskey Nose 14

Grats wrote: »

Yes, I agree entirely. Genuine is the word. Hope they're not being punished for taking a stand while the real culprits continue with their antagonism.

I agree completely, lets hope they arent being punished for reacting to a few gombeens trying to take away their enjoyment in posting on here or worse still that theyve simply stopped posting because of them. Their posting on here was an almost daily occurrance and I for one always looked forward to seeing what they had to say as there are only a few posters who have an in depth knowledge of everything going on in the county and they were 2 of them. Lets hope we see both Sav Kat and PmyMurphy back here real soon

babyjesus14

realdanbreen wrote: »

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Yes, I only read it a few minutes ago. I'm livid! I'm after smashing a hurl off the kitchen table! Roll on Saturday.

About what? The fact that he said he hates Tipp. He's hardly part of an exclusive club there!!

Grats

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I read that from Jackie Cahill too. However I'd heard from last weekend from a reputable source that there had actually been no changes at all to the A team from the drawn match. I hope the Jackie Cahill situation is the truth to be honest I'd prefer to see those lads in although I don't know if Joyce will come in instead of B Hogan as he has suggested.

Yeah, yet another Tipp spy! Amusing how these Tipp boys pretend to know all about the opposition and appear to have nothing of interest from their own camp!

allthedoyles

With Brian Cody ou can expect maximum two changes to team .

Thursday will tell .

Charlie69

allthedoyles wrote: »

With Brian Cody ou can expect maximum two changes to team .

Thursday will tell .

That's true, mind you he made quite a few changes to the team for the replay with Galway this year.

CATwalk

Hard to know what changes will be made. Heard from his club mate Walter was sick the week before all ireland , don't know how much truth is in that but from all accounts he had found his form again. Heard Henry was playing in the corner in training since all ireland. A lot of hearsay always this time of year. Team I'd like to see starting.....

Murphy
Murphy jj Jackie
Padraig hogan Buckley
M. Fennelly fogarty
C. Fennelly r.hogan Larkin
Power Tj Walter/Henry

mrscat

ellinguistico wrote: »

Like that team a lot.

me too, really like that team.

It's a pity you can't show your stub from the last day for the replay, would make sense. Hopefully, the lack of corporate folk might help, would be great to get those kid's tickets. In a club alright, hopefully will come good in the draw.

robwen

tickets.ie selling final tickets again this morning

mrscat

robwen wrote: »

tickets.ie selling final tickets again this morning

nally stand, but you can only buy one at a time it seems?

adrian522

allthedoyles wrote: »

With Brian Cody ou can expect maximum two changes to team .

Thursday will tell .

Well he made 3 changes before the drawn match.

robwen

mrscat wrote: »

nally stand, but you can only buy one at a time it seems?

didn`t see what they were selling just got an email from tickets.ie at 10am saying they were on sale

Mountainlad

Can't see it being anything other than a huge mistake to start Joyce and Shefflin. Joyce hasn't played all year, to throw him in center back now would be crazy. This isn't throwing Walter Walsh in corner forward and starting Cillian Buckley who should have started the first day in 2012 kind of scenario.

The pace of the game is too much for Shefflin full stop. He won't last that intensity. How could a 35 year old with all the injuries he's had last in a pivot sport at the pace?

Padraig Walsh has to come in and will do so.

adrian522

I could see the logic with starting Shefflin to a certain extent but agree with you on Joyce. I think if P.W comes in at wing back that would be the only change to the half back line.

I wouldn't like to see Hogan moved out of centre back, by all means have a specific plan in place for if Hogan is going badly again but Joyce won't be any faster than Hogan and I don't see what he brings other than being someone different.

Shefflin at least will compete under high balls and has great vision etc to pick a pass or a score. He can't be any worse than Walsh was the last day. If he has to be taken off he has to be taken off.

citykat

realdanbreen wrote: »

I just read that article in the Kilkenny People by David Walsh. By Jesus I hope its nailed to the Tipp dressing room door !

Put it right alongside all the other stuff nailed there over the years. Ye must be running out of door space by now...

realdanbreen

The bookies are only offering evens on Henry to start, so it looks like he's on.
Roll on Saturday.

Realt Dearg Sec

realdanbreen wrote: »

The bookies are only offering evens on Henry to start, so it looks like he's on.
Roll on Saturday.

What are they offering on Joyce to start?

mrscat

robwen wrote: »

didn`t see what they were selling just got an email from tickets.ie at 10am saying they were on sale

€25 for nally stand, single tickets

babyjesus14

realdanbreen wrote: »

The bookies are only offering evens on Henry to start, so it looks like he's on.
Roll on Saturday.

Which would make him odds on not to start, so looks like he's not on!!

mercury16

The one thing about Wally is that he really is only a half forward and he struggles when he plays in the full forward line.
Granted he is surprisingly very quick, but he lacks drive, the cut that is needed in a game like this and has done so all year!

I'd take the gamble on Shefflin and start him and let it slip that Henry has 30mins in him..then whatever, people expect him to be taken off.

Shefflin has no pace agreed, but he's a cute aul fox and his game of drifting and dragging the marker away, is where he can do damage. And Tipp may say that Henry is beat, but if he's playing centre forward and a high ball comes in, B Maher is not as physical as either of the corner backs, that's Henry's ball. Additionally, B Maher will not let Henry on his own, so their is going to be gaps in that Tipp half back line.


Tipps strength's are; their mobile forwards and their mobile midfield...

Tipp's weaknesses -
forwards are poor in the air;
midfield is not that physical;
backs are average in the air,
half back line are poor man markers - especially P Maher.

Counteract their strength in the forwards by closing down the half back and midfield lines and make them hit high clearances rather than play balls.
Also have your half forwards drift - not switch with other players but drift around, that's where Richie Hogan got space in the half forwards the last day and where Shefflin would really do damage.

robwen

Are Tipp naming team this evening or tomor?

droppingball

I wouldn't think there will be any changes for Tipperary unless they want to make room for Mickey Cahill.

Michael Fennelly in midfield could have a massive bearing for Kilkenny, important he goes well for us to get a foothold in the game. Hopeful that he will start there and Richie will move into the forwards. Love to see him inside and see would it cause panic for James Barry, fear would be that we would miss his workrate. It would be great to give tipperary a few different things to worry about tho. Richie could run up a big score if he was getting the right ball.

robwen

There doesn`t seem to be any Saturday game highlights or broadcast from the winners banquet Saturday evening on RTE, not showing up in the TV listings anyhow, TG4 have the match at 8.05pm presume there showing full game, will they present MOM on this show I wonder or maybe on the RTE news?

K4t

droppingball wrote: »

Michael Fennelly in midfield could have a massive bearing for Kilkenny, important he goes well for us to get a foothold in the game.

If he's fit, this could be the difference. It has been in previous years.

Fwank wizzo

A straight positional swap between Richie and Colin could be successful,as I don't think either of them were in their natural positions the last day.

Let's face it,Colin's first touch needs work and maybe the midfield position would make the most out of his natural athleticism.Also it might suit because it'll give him marginally more time to get the ball in hand than he'd get nearer to goal.

Hard to know at the end of the day what way this game will pan out.Had a dream last night that Tipp won by 2 points.Must lay off the cheese before bedtime from now on.Aint into nightmares

Grats

Fwank wizzo wrote: »

A straight positional swap between Richie and Colin could be successful,as I don't think either of them were in their natural positions the last day.

Let's face it,Colin's first touch needs work and maybe the midfield position would make the most out of his natural athleticism.Also it might suit because it'll give him marginally more time to get the ball in hand than he'd get nearer to goal.

Hard to know at the end of the day what way this game will pan out.Had a dream last night that Tipp won by 2 points.Must lay off the cheese before bedtime from now on.Aint into nightmares

Ah, not to worry, dreams rarely come true!

GerB40

Fwank wizzo wrote: »

A straight positional swap between Richie and Colin could be successful,as I don't think either of them were in their natural positions the last day.

Let's face it,Colin's first touch needs work and maybe the midfield position would make the most out of his natural athleticism.Also it might suit because it'll give him marginally more time to get the ball in hand than he'd get nearer to goal.

Hard to know at the end of the day what way this game will pan out.Had a dream last night that Tipp won by 2 points.Must lay off the cheese before bedtime from now on.Aint into nightmares

Might have been a premonition ☺