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Mountainlad

Fort Stranger wrote: »

You know the nice thing about this victory is that finally, no matter what happens over the next fifty years, it can never be questioned as to how great this team(s) have been. After 2010, the theory was put out there they weren't as great as had been made out and they were on the wane.
Then even after 2011 and 2012, they were still being talked down, but now they have put all teams that have gone before them (in both codes) in the shade.
The funny thing was that a cork fellow came up to me in 2005 and said we were finished, boy did he try to avoid me in the club last Saturday evening?
They can say what they like about how we hurl, blah blah but the history has been made and if we never win another there will be no taking it away from these players.

Genuinely though, were there that many people disputing how good this Kilkenny team was? Like as in people that were not just bitter or looking for a rise (which most people are not).

You'll always have some debate about it, I think the record of the team over time is undeniable but it depends on how long you consider a team as just that rather than a different team playing for the same county (not sure the best way to explain that). I guess in that instance there'll be talk of the Cork 4 in a row team, even though it is well known they were awarded one of the titles. I would question anyone denying that the Kilkenny team certainly from 2006-2009 were not the greatest team of all time, I guess now it's still the same team and the same statement holds true.

I would say there is more scope for a debate on the best hurler of all time. On an individual award like that the amount of medals you have won shouldn't really by the determining factor though obviously in saying that Shefflin is right up there and would be a contender in any debate on the matter.

clashash

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

It should be deleted for being off topic...

Oh! calm down Realt Dearg! I was only being sarcastic having had so many posts not printed.

Realt Dearg Sec

clashash wrote: »

Oh! calm down Realt Dearg! I was only being sarcastic having had so many posts not printed.

I know, I was being sarcastic.

clashash

How are the clubs going right now? They should almost be wrapping up their games. Great to have the seniors back in action. No doubt they are raring to to go after their great success thsi year. Now is the time to scout for new talent to help the county like happened last year and all the new blood we witnessed over the entire season. Some injured players needed to get a break and time off and recover. It all panned out in the end.

Kilkennyfella

Saturday

St. Canice's Credit Union [Kilkenny] S.H.C.
Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
1st Rd 4 00 PM Tom Ryall Park Carrickshock --- --- Erins Own Gavin Quilty
St. Canice's Credit Union [Kilkenny] Senior Hurling League
Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
Final 4 00 PM Thomastown O`Loughlin Gaels --- --- Rower Inistioge Patrick Dunphy Extra Time
St. Canice's Credit Union [Kilkenny] Senior Hurling Shield
Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
Final 2 00 PM Thomastown Ballyhale Shamrocks --- --- Dicksboro Eoin Hayes Extra Time

Sunday

Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
1st Rd [A] 2 00 PM Freshford St Martin's --- --- Fenians Sean Cleere
1st Rd 2 00 PM John Locke Park Danesfort --- --- Tullaroan Richard Dowling
1st Rd 4 00 PM Jenkinstown Clara --- --- James Stephens John Kennedy

Some great games on both days this weekend. My fancies would be O Loughlins(but only just). Ballyhale (again this could be closer than people think). Carrickshock should see off Comer but if the weather is poor like today it could be a close game which could go either way.

Muckalee should beat Fenians handy enough. Danesfort to beat Tullaroan by 2/3 points and finally Clara should beat The Village by the same margin.

Thoughts?

tbiggertycome

Something I did out of curiosity
A list of the most awarded Surnames in Kilkenny hurling with Senior AI winners only.
167 different Surnames have one medals for Kilkenny.

Surname No of AI's
1-Walsh 45
2-Brennan 39
3-Power 25
4-Doyle 22
5-Fennelly 22
6-Larkin 20
7-Delaney 19
8-Ryan 19
9-Murphy 18
10-Grace 17
Hogan 16
Kelly 16
Cummins 15
Henderson 13
Fitzpatrick 12
Fogarty 12
Hickey 12
Phelan 12
Kennedy 11
20-Reid 11
Shefflin 10
Dunne 10
Lalor 10
Kavanagh 10
McCormack10
Skehan 9
Byrne 9
Tyrrell 9
Comerford 9
30-Lanigan7
Rochford 7
Carroll 7
Keoghan 7
Mullally 7
Treacy 7
Coogan 7
Gargan 7
Tennyson 7
Keher 6
40-Lyng 6
McGarry 6
Ruth 6
Ryall 6
O'Brien 6
Carey 6
Hoyne 6
O'Dwyer 6
Dalton 6
Cleere 6
50-Purcell 6

tbiggertycome

Kilkennyfella wrote: »

Saturday

St. Canice's Credit Union [Kilkenny] S.H.C.
Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
1st Rd 4 00 PM Tom Ryall Park Carrickshock --- --- Erins Own Gavin Quilty
St. Canice's Credit Union [Kilkenny] Senior Hurling League
Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
Final 4 00 PM Thomastown O`Loughlin Gaels --- --- Rower Inistioge Patrick Dunphy Extra Time
St. Canice's Credit Union [Kilkenny] Senior Hurling Shield
Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
Final 2 00 PM Thomastown Ballyhale Shamrocks --- --- Dicksboro Eoin Hayes Extra Time

Sunday

Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee Notes Report
1st Rd [A] 2 00 PM Freshford St Martin's --- --- Fenians Sean Cleere
1st Rd 2 00 PM John Locke Park Danesfort --- --- Tullaroan Richard Dowling
1st Rd 4 00 PM Jenkinstown Clara --- --- James Stephens John Kennedy

Some great games on both days this weekend. My fancies would be O Loughlins(but only just). Ballyhale (again this could be closer than people think). Carrickshock should see off Comer but if the weather is poor like today it could be a close game which could go either way.

Muckalee should beat Fenians handy enough. Danesfort to beat Tullaroan by 2/3 points and finally Clara should beat The Village by the same margin.

Thoughts?

Likewise I would expect wins for
Saturday- Carrickshock
O'Loughlins
& Ballyhale
Sunday St Martin's
Danesfort
& Clara

Fwank wizzo

tbiggertycome wrote: »

Something I did out of curiosity
A list of the most awarded Surnames in Kilkenny hurling with Senior AI winners only.
167 different Surnames have one medals for Kilkenny.

Surname No of AI's
1-Walsh 45
2-Brennan 39
3-Power 25
4-Doyle 22
5-Fennelly 22
6-Larkin 20
7-Delaney 19
8-Ryan 19
9-Murphy 18
10-Grace 17
Hogan 16
Kelly 16
Cummins 15
Henderson 13
Fitzpatrick 12
Fogarty 12
Hickey 12
Phelan 12
Kennedy 11
20-Reid 11
Shefflin 10
Dunne 10
Lalor 10
Kavanagh 10
McCormack10
Skehan 9
Byrne 9
Tyrrell 9
Comerford 9
30-Lanigan7
Rochford 7
Carroll 7
Keoghan 7
Mullally 7
Treacy 7
Coogan 7
Gargan 7
Tennyson 7
Keher 6
40-Lyng 6
McGarry 6
Ruth 6
Ryall 6
O'Brien 6
Carey 6
Hoyne 6
O'Dwyer 6
Dalton 6
Cleere 6
50-Purcell 6

Nice work
The Doyle one has me stumped tho??

babyjesus14

tbiggertycome wrote: »

Something I did out of curiosity
A list of the most awarded Surnames in Kilkenny hurling with Senior AI winners only.
167 different Surnames have one medals for Kilkenny.

Surname No of AI's
1-Walsh 45
2-Brennan 39
3-Power 25
4-Doyle 22
5-Fennelly 22
6-Larkin 20
7-Delaney 19
8-Ryan 19
9-Murphy 18
10-Grace 17
Hogan 16
Kelly 16
Cummins 15
Henderson 13
Fitzpatrick 12
Fogarty 12
Hickey 12
Phelan 12
Kennedy 11
20-Reid 11
Shefflin 10
Dunne 10
Lalor 10
Kavanagh 10
McCormack10
Skehan 9
Byrne 9
Tyrrell 9
Comerford 9
30-Lanigan7
Rochford 7
Carroll 7
Keoghan 7
Mullally 7
Treacy 7
Coogan 7
Gargan 7
Tennyson 7
Keher 6
40-Lyng 6
McGarry 6
Ruth 6
Ryall 6
O'Brien 6
Carey 6
Hoyne 6
O'Dwyer 6
Dalton 6
Cleere 6
50-Purcell 6

You really need to get out more often! lol

Speak Now

Fwank wizzo wrote: »

Nice work
The Doyle one has me stumped tho??

The 3 Doyle brothers from Mooncoin? 19 between them I think.

tbiggertycome

babyjesus14 wrote: »

You really need to get out more often! lol

Correct😜 I did it years ago so now I just update it.

tbiggertycome

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

The 3 Doyle brothers from Mooncoin? 19 between them I think.

Close 18 medals

Dick 7 1904- 1913
Eddie 6 1904- 1912
Mick 5 1905- 1913
Eddie 2 1932-1933
Richie 2 2011-2012

mrscat

favourite moments from a fantastic win are;

- Larkin's point in the 2nd half from the Cusack stand, incredible considering he was on the other side. Hit the sweet spot nicely.

- John Power's point after the immense tackling, blocking that went on prior to it

- Padraig's Walsh's point near the end, as above.

- JJ's hook, outstanding. And they said in 2012 he didn't have the legs anymore!

What a fantastic win for the super cats.

It's between us and Limerick in 2015 I think.

Kilkennyfella

clashash wrote: »

How are the clubs going right now? They should almost be wrapping up their games. Great to have the seniors back in action. No doubt they are raring to to go after their great success thsi year. Now is the time to scout for new talent to help the county like happened last year and all the new blood we witnessed over the entire season. Some injured players needed to get a break and time off and recover. It all panned out in the end.

Very good point in relation to scouting for talent. Id like to hear peoples thoughts about who they would like to see brought on to the panel. Personally i would like to see David Glynnn from Dicksboro have a good local Championship and then go in training with the County panel for the Walsh Cup.

He has being named on the Fitzgibbon team of the year at full back for the last 2 years. He has also being one of the Boro's best players over the last number of years. Unfortunatly JJ can;t go on forever and we all know that full back is a specialised position. He also has the ability to play Centre back and this is where he has played for the Boro mainly over the last few years.

Justice for the individual

mrscat wrote: »

favourite moments from a fantastic win are;

- Larkin's point in the 2nd half from the Cusack stand, incredible considering he was on the other side. Hit the sweet spot nicely.

- John Power's point after the immense tackling, blocking that went on prior to it

- Padraig's Walsh's point near the end, as above.

- JJ's hook, outstanding. And they said in 2012 he didn't have the legs anymore!

What a fantastic win for the super cats.

It's between us and Limerick in 2015 I think.

On JJ's hook on Callinan to prevent a certain goal, if you look back at it again, you will see how he switched the hurl from his left hand to his right hand so as to put the hurl at the right angle to do the hooking. That to me was clever thinking.

Similar to the way a rugby player will switch the ball away from a tackler to the other side to make it more difficult to dispossess.

Being a modern hurling full back in hurling now requires a brain and not just all brawn.

tbiggertycome

Kilkennyfella wrote: »

Very good point in relation to scouting for talent. Id like to hear peoples thoughts about who they would like to see brought on to the panel. Personally i would like to see David Glynnn from Dicksboro have a good local Championship and then go in training with the County panel for the Walsh Cup.

He has being named on the Fitzgibbon team of the year at full back for the last 2 years. He has also being one of the Boro's best players over the last number of years. Unfortunatly JJ can;t go on forever and we all know that full back is a specialised position. He also has the ability to play Centre back and this is where he has played for the Boro mainly over the last few years.

I could be wrong but I think Glynn, Fagan, Oisin Walsh and Shane Maher were all brought in November last year and all were cut or dropped out. I agree Davy Glynn is a great hurler and maybe another run might do it. I also think Mick Fagan would be a fabulous addition but you never know what goes on at the training sessions and Cody may not like them as much as I do and let's be honest who has the better track record?

Kilkennyfella

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I could be wrong but I think Glynn, Fagan, Oisin Walsh and Shane Maher were all brought in November last year and all were cut or dropped out. I agree Davy Glynn is a great hurler and maybe another run might do it. I also think Mick Fagan would be a fabulous addition but you never know what goes on at the training sessions and Cody may not like them as much as I do and let's be honest who has the better track record?

Ye i remember a few of the lads were called in alright. Shane was in as a 3rd goal keeper for a while. Maybe he will get another run this Winter and get kept on.

I'm a huge fan of Mick Fagan. He has many attributes, i just feel that his striking is not the best and could be the reason he wasnt kept on the last time. I wonder will the Shamrocks stars line out on Saturday afternoon? I doubt Mick Fennelly and Shefflin will anyway?

tbiggertycome

Kilkennyfella wrote: »

Ye i remember a few of the lads were called in alright. Shane was in as a 3rd goal keeper for a while. Maybe he will get another run this Winter and get kept on.

I'm a huge fan of Mick Fagan. He has many attributes, i just feel that his striking is not the best and could be the reason he wasnt kept on the last time. I wonder will the Shamrocks stars line out on Saturday afternoon? I doubt Mick Fennelly and Shefflin will anyway?

I heard Fagan found it all a bit serious, he's very easy going. I heard he enjoyed it but found the atmosphere a bit oppressive, which you can understand with so many lads mad to make the cut. From what I heard Maher wasn't terribly committed to the regime. That level of commitment is not for everyone, and just goes to show how unique a bunch of guys we have and the levels Cody demands.

northern lad

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I could be wrong but I think Glynn, Fagan, Oisin Walsh and Shane Maher were all brought in November last year and all were cut or dropped out. I agree Davy Glynn is a great hurler and maybe another run might do it. I also think Mick Fagan would be a fabulous addition but you never know what goes on at the training sessions and Cody may not like them as much as I do and let's be honest who has the better track record?

Mick Fagan, Oisin Walsh and Shane Maher were brought in with Cillian Buckley. No one else. None of the three made the league panel. Undoubtedly Shane has the talent but you need more than talent. Buckley is the perfect example of good talent and super attitude.

Charlie69

Mick Fennelly was interviewed on off the ball last night where he revealed he had to go for a scan on his knee, he said it hasn't been right since the final and seemed to be a bit worried about it.

He was having the scan right after the interview so hopefully it went well. Anyone hear anything?

pmy.murphy

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I could be wrong but I think Glynn, Fagan, Oisin Walsh and Shane Maher were all brought in November last year and all were cut or dropped out. I agree Davy Glynn is a great hurler and maybe another run might do it. I also think Mick Fagan would be a fabulous addition but you never know what goes on at the training sessions and Cody may not like them as much as I do and let's be honest who has the better track record?

Fairly sure Glynn wasnt called up last year but I know Oisin Walsh(who Im not a huge fan of) and Fagan were brought in and subsequently cut from the panel. Dont think Maher was there either but he has been there in the past as an extra goalkeeper.

If were looking for new full backs i think Glynn is worth a luck and also Tom Aylward of Mullinavat who captained the 21s this year and was one of the few shining lights in the game against Wexford.

tbiggertycome

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Fairly sure Glynn wasnt called up last year but I know Oisin Walsh(who Im not a huge fan of) and Fagan were brought in and subsequently cut from the panel. Dont think Maher was there either but he has been there in the past as an extra goalkeeper.

If were looking for new full backs i think Glynn is worth a luck and also Tom Aylward of Mullinavat who captained the 21s this year and was one of the few shining lights in the game against Wexford.

Fair enough I thought he was but I'll bow to your knowledge. However Shane Maher was definitely called in again at the start of the year all the Boro lads were cut by the League or before except Buckley obviously. Glynn and Aylward would be great options to try next year.

dastardly00

13 All-Star nominations: Eoin Murphy; Paul Murphy; JJ, Jackie, Padraig Walsh; Buckley; Richie Hogan; Conor Fogarty; TJ; Mick Fennelly; Colin Fennelly; Larkin; and Richie Power.

I'm very happy with that. I don't think there are any other lads who would have been hoping to get a nomination.

tbiggertycome

GAA GPA All-Stars 2014 sponsored by Opel Hurling Nominations

09 October 2014/Categories: Year 2014

Recently crowned All-Ireland champions Kilkenny lead the count with no fewer than 13 players making the shortlist for awards.

They are followed closely by beaten finalists Tipperary who receive 11.

The remainder of the 45 places go to Limerick (7), Cork (6) Wexford (3), Dublin (2) and one apiece for Clare, Offaly and Galway.

This shortlist of nominees was selected by GAA journalists and the awards for the successful 15 candidates, along with the Player of the Year awards, will be made at the All-Star banquet on October 24 in Dublin.

Contenders for both the Player of the Year and the Young Player of the Year awards are also listed below. The shortlists for these awards will be voted on by the GPA membership.

2014 Hurling Nominations

Goalkeepers

Darren Gleeson (Tipperary), Eoin Murphy (Kilkenny), Alan Nolan (Dublin).

Full backs

Cathal Barrett (Tipperary), JJ Delaney (Kilkenny), Séamus Hickey (Limerick), Richie McCarthy (Limerick), Stephen McDonnell (Cork), Paul Murphy (Kilkenny), Paddy Stapleton (Tipperary), Jackie Tyrrell (Kilkenny), Liam Ryan (Wexford).

Half backs

Kieran Bergin (Tipperary), Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny), Mark Ellis (Cork), Brendan Maher (Tipperary), Pádraic Maher (Tipperary), Pádraic Walsh (Kilkenny), Liam Rushe (Dublin), Lorcán McLoughlin (Cork), Wayne McNamara (Limerick).

Midfield

Paul Browne (Limerick), Lee Chin (Wexford), Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny), Shane McGrath (Tipperary), James Ryan (Limerick).

Half forwards

Noel McGrath (Tipperary), Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny), Declan Hannon (Limerick), Conor Lehane (Cork), Patrick Maher (Tipperary), John O’Dwyer (Tipperary), Eoin Larkin (Kilkenny), TJ Reid (Kilkenny), Conor Cooney (Galway).

Full forwards

Alan Cadogan (Cork), Séamus Callanan (Tipperary), Shane Dowling (Limerick), Patrick Horgan (Cork), Conor McDonald (Wexford), Colin Fennelly (Kilkenny), Richie Power (Kilkenny), Conor McGrath (Clare), Brian Carroll (Offaly).

Young Player of the Year

Cathal Barrett (Tipperary)
Shane Dowling (Limerick)
Conor McDonald (Wexford)

Player of the Year

Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)
Séamus Callanan (Tipperary)
TJ Reid (Kilkenny)

babyjesus14

tbiggertycome wrote: »

GAA GPA All-Stars 2014 sponsored by Opel Hurling Nominations

09 October 2014/Categories: Year 2014

Recently crowned All-Ireland champions Kilkenny lead the count with no fewer than 13 players making the shortlist for awards.

They are followed closely by beaten finalists Tipperary who receive 11.

The remainder of the 45 places go to Limerick (7), Cork (6) Wexford (3), Dublin (2) and one apiece for Clare, Offaly and Galway.

This shortlist of nominees was selected by GAA journalists and the awards for the successful 15 candidates, along with the Player of the Year awards, will be made at the All-Star banquet on October 24 in Dublin.

Contenders for both the Player of the Year and the Young Player of the Year awards are also listed below. The shortlists for these awards will be voted on by the GPA membership.

2014 Hurling Nominations

Goalkeepers

Darren Gleeson (Tipperary), Eoin Murphy (Kilkenny), Alan Nolan (Dublin).

Full backs

Cathal Barrett (Tipperary), JJ Delaney (Kilkenny), Séamus Hickey (Limerick), Richie McCarthy (Limerick), Stephen McDonnell (Cork), Paul Murphy (Kilkenny), Paddy Stapleton (Tipperary), Jackie Tyrrell (Kilkenny), Liam Ryan (Wexford).

Half backs

Kieran Bergin (Tipperary), Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny), Mark Ellis (Cork), Brendan Maher (Tipperary), Pádraic Maher (Tipperary), Pádraic Walsh (Kilkenny), Liam Rushe (Dublin), Lorcán McLoughlin (Cork), Wayne McNamara (Limerick).

Midfield

Paul Browne (Limerick), Lee Chin (Wexford), Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny), Shane McGrath (Tipperary), James Ryan (Limerick).

Half forwards

Noel McGrath (Tipperary), Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny), Declan Hannon (Limerick), Conor Lehane (Cork), Patrick Maher (Tipperary), John O’Dwyer (Tipperary), Eoin Larkin (Kilkenny), TJ Reid (Kilkenny), Conor Cooney (Galway).

Full forwards

Alan Cadogan (Cork), Séamus Callanan (Tipperary), Shane Dowling (Limerick), Patrick Horgan (Cork), Conor McDonald (Wexford), Colin Fennelly (Kilkenny), Richie Power (Kilkenny), Conor McGrath (Clare), Brian Carroll (Offaly).

Young Player of the Year

Cathal Barrett (Tipperary)
Shane Dowling (Limerick)
Conor McDonald (Wexford)

Player of the Year

Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)
Séamus Callanan (Tipperary)
TJ Reid (Kilkenny)

Pretty much as expected with a huge emphasis on the All-Ireland final competitors. But did Michael Fennelly deserve a nomination considering he missed most of the summer and then didn't really get up to speed until the final replay? Also feel the inclusion of Noel Mc Grath undeserved, form very indifferent until outstanding in original final but then taken off in the replay.
Thought Liam Mc Govern and Aidan Walsh a bit hard done by.

dcrosskid

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Pretty much as expected with a huge emphasis on the All-Ireland final competitors. But did Michael Fennelly deserve a nomination considering he missed most of the summer and then didn't really get up to speed until the final replay? Also feel the inclusion of Noel Mc Grath undeserved, form very indifferent until an outstanding in original final but then taken off in the replay.
Thought Liam Mc Govern and Aidan Walsh a bit hard done by.

Noel was probably our best forward in the replay despite being taken off. Doesn't say an awful lot for the other forwards tbh.

realdanbreen

Neither Noel McGrath or Michael Fennelly did enough to be nominated.

Realt Dearg Sec

dcrosskid wrote: »

Noel was probably our best forward in the replay despite being taken off. Doesn't say an awful lot for the other forwards tbh.

I wouldn't agree there at all. Callanan surely?

realdanbreen wrote: »

Neither Noel McGrath or Michael Fennelly did enough to be nominated.

Pretty much. Fennelly was good but not really when he was in the forwards, and he was absent too much to really warrant being in the shake up for an All Star.

dcrosskid

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I wouldn't agree there at all. Callanan surely?



Pretty much. Fennelly was good but not really when he was in the forwards, and he was absent too much to really warrant being in the shake up for an All Star.

Callanan was handed 2 goals by Lar & a deflected shot, outside of that he did very little on the day. Noel scored 3 from play, set up 3 and won a couple of frees.

babyjesus14

dcrosskid wrote: »

Callanan was handed 2 goals by Lar & a deflected shot, outside of that he did very little on the day. Noel scored 3 from play, set up 3 and won a couple of frees.

Would question those stats, for a start he only scored 2 pts.

realdanbreen

dcrosskid wrote: »

Callanan was handed 2 goals by Lar & a deflected shot, outside of that he did very little on the day. Noel scored 3 from play, set up 3 and won a couple of frees.

Noel was very lucky to be selected to start in the all ireland semi final never mind be nominated for an all star.

babyjesus14

realdanbreen wrote: »

Noel was very lucky to be selected to start in the all ireland semi final never mind be nominated for an all star.

What were ye're other options?

realdanbreen

babyjesus14 wrote: »

What were ye're other options?

If a hurler is not playing well, as Mcgrath was, then any other forward on the panel is an option.

dcrosskid

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Would question those stats, for a start he only scored 2 pts.

Im only going off my viewing of the match & thought he had 3 points but I could be wrong on that. Still think he was our best forward in the replay.

babyjesus14

realdanbreen wrote: »

If a hurler is not playing well, as Mcgrath was, then any other forward on the panel is an option.

Like? With a player of the talent of Noel McGrath i'd guess the thinking would be that he will eventually spark into life and do damage.... which he did in the original final!

dastardly00

So we have Wexford or Carlow/Laois/Antrim/Westmeath

Realt Dearg Sec

dastardly00 wrote: »

So we have Wexford or Carlow/Laois/Antrim/Westmeath

I'd be happy enough with that, avoiding Dublin and Galway is a help because both are capable of a serious resurgence. Wexford are on the up of course but I'd say we'll have enough for them.

babyjesus14

Assuming it's Wexford they'll be due to come to the 'Park. So we can't really complain.

Realt Dearg Sec

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Assuming it's Wexford they'll be due to come to the 'Park. So we can't really complain.

Are we due three home league Ganges this year? Throw this in and it's looking great, I like nothing in this life better than heading down to Kilkenny for a match in the park.

rebel girl 15

Stop the WUMming lads, I've deleted a number of posts - if yon think its wrong, report the post rather than trying to call out the WUM and in the process becoming one

randd1

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Assuming it's Wexford they'll be due to come to the 'Park. So we can't really complain.

No.

As far as I know, the Leinster council (in the infinite wisdom), decided last year that the two hurling SF's are due to take place in Croke Park in 2015 as a double header.

Makes no sense. Between (likely) Wexford v Kilkenny and (likely) Offaly v Dublin/Galway, there'd be barely 25,000 at the games.

If the provincial venues were to be used, Offaly v Dublin would be in Tullamore with about 15,000, Offaly v Galway would be in Portlaoise with about 10,000, Kilkenny v Wexford in Nowlan Park would have brought 15,000 or more.

Bigger crowds in smaller stadiums would make more sense.

Had the draw worked out to favour Kilkenny v Wexford and Dublin v Galway in the SF's, Croke Park would be a good idea, but with either Dublin and Galway not going to be there I think the crowd numbers will suffer. More importantly, I think the fare on offer will as well (unless Wexford and/or Offaly pull off a major shock).

babyjesus14

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Are we due three home league Ganges this year? Throw this in and it's looking great, I like nothing in this life better than heading down to Kilkenny for a match in the park.

No, only have 2 home league matches but what has that to do with the Championship? We played Wexford in the semi in Wexford park in '11, So i assume it's there turn to come to us.

Realt Dearg Sec

babyjesus14 wrote: »

No, only have 2 home league matches but what has that to do with the Championship? .

Nothing.

babyjesus14

randd1 wrote: »

No.

As far as I know, the Leinster council (in the infinite wisdom), decided last year that the two hurling SF's are due to take place in Croke Park in 2015 as a double header.

Makes no sense. Between (likely) Wexford v Kilkenny and (likely) Offaly v Dublin/Galway, there'd be barely 25,000 at the games.

If the provincial venues were to be used, Offaly v Dublin would be in Tullamore with about 15,000, Offaly v Galway would be in Portlaoise with about 10,000, Kilkenny v Wexford in Nowlan Park would have brought 15,000 or more.

Bigger crowds in smaller stadiums would make more sense.

Had the draw worked out to favour Kilkenny v Wexford and Dublin v Galway in the SF's, Croke Park would be a good idea, but with either Dublin and Galway not going to be there I think the crowd numbers will suffer. More importantly, I think the fare on offer will as well (unless Wexford and/or Offaly pull off a major shock).

Well if that's the case, it's idiotic! Why now? Why not wait until the draw was made and the likely pairings were known?

Realt Dearg Sec

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Well if that's the case, it's idiotic!

You say it like that means they wouldn't do it!

Hitchens

Davy Fitzgerald

Denis Walsh
Brian Cody
Brian Whelehan

Anthony Daly
Pat Henderson
Liam Dunne

Len Gaynor
Justin McCarthy

Eamon Cregan
Joe Dooley
Gerald McCarthy

Babs Keating
Noel Lane
Anthony Cunningham
JBM

The above team have all managed intercounty and all have Senior All-Ireland winners medals and all are still hale and hearty!

dastardly00

Hitchens wrote: »

Davy Fitzgerald

Denis Walsh
Brian Cody
Brian Whelehan

Anthony Daly
Pat Henderson
Liam Dunne

Len Gaynor
Justin McCarthy

Eamon Cregan
Joe Dooley
Gerald McCarthy

Babs Keating
Noel Lane
Anthony Cunningham

The above team have all managed intercounty and all have Senior All-Ireland winners medals and all are still hale and hearty!

How many have won senior AIs as players and managers?

Davy Fitz, Brian Cody, Justin McCarthy, Eamonn Cregan, Gerald McCarthy, and Babs.

Hitchens

dastardly00 wrote: »

How many have won senior AIs as players and managers?

Davy Fitz, Brian Cody, Justin McCarthy, Eamonn Cregan, Gerald McCarthy, and Babs.

Pat Henderson definitely

babyjesus14

dastardly00 wrote: »

How many have won senior AIs as players and managers?

Davy Fitz, Brian Cody, Justin McCarthy, Eamonn Cregan, Gerald McCarthy, and Babs.

Neither of the Mc Carthys did, Justin was a selector in 1984. I make it five Fitzgerald, Cody, Henderson, Cregan and Keating.

Shirleysrumbler

Hitchens wrote: »

[B
]Davy Fitzgerald

Denis Walsh
Brian Cody
Brian Whelehan

Anthony Daly
Pat Henderson
Liam Dunne

Len Gaynor
Justin McCarthy

Eamon Cregan
Joe Dooley
Gerald McCarthy

Babs Keating
Noel Lane
Anthony Cunningham[/B]

The above team have all managed intercounty and all have Senior All-Ireland winners medals and all are still hale and hearty!

I'd move Cregan to 15 Justin to 10 and Bring on Joachim Kelly at 9 Didn't like cunningham as a hurler.Remember Keher was Trainer to Kilkenny in 79 as well so Cunningham is looking like a hurl carrier. I'd prefer The Puck Fennelly in goal he'd be good for a bit a crack afterwards, Davy would only want everybody in his front room for tea. Ollie for the goal, He'd be dead sound to the young lads in front of him like Cody and Whelehan. Also I'd go for JBM an front of Babs cause babs would have them sh***in it what with his bare feet. Also ,no place for Conor Hayes or Nicky English. I've also dropped Joe Dooley for his more consistent Brother Johnny.