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The White Feather

Goat the dote wrote: »

What's was it actually for???? We've watched the replays and can't figure it out

I think as the dublin player was falling, the kilkenny player was swinging his hurley and the ref assumed he hit him so thats why the dublin player was falling.

Ridiculous decision though

mullinr2

Dublin gave us a lesson in that half. I don't seeing pulling off the win in this game. The Dublin lads are fair physical. The backs are finding very tough to handle it especially Kennedy and keogh

zetecescort

very harsh red but no argument from Farrell or Cody. maybe more to it?

kfrp

It will be a tough test with 14 for the rest of the game.

Goat the dote

zetecescort wrote: »

very harsh red but no argument from Farrell or Cody. maybe more to it?

When has an argument over a red ever gotten overturned?

dirkmeister

Micheál O Domhnaill is coming out with some rubbish, that because John Jo left the field without an argument that there must have been more to it.


Cathal Moore saying that it was a yellow...that's even harsh.


Ridiculous stuff.

letowski

Although KK werent at their best, but being 2 down was not a bad poition playing against the wind. But we have seen KK struggle in their use of the ball with a man less v Cork in 2013. Wonder will Cody have a better contigency plan in the 2nd half, they have the wind.

Fergus_Nash

dastardly00 wrote: »

I've watched the incident about 4 or 5 times now and I still can't figure out what the red card was for

Probably a wild swing, but very harsh.

Brian017

dirkmeister wrote: »

Micheál O Domhnaill is coming out with some rubbish, that because John Jo left the field without an argument that there must have been more to it.


Cathal Moore saying that it was a yellow...that's even harsh.


Ridiculous stuff.

Cause refs are known to change their minds when players argue with them :rolleyes: Stick to the presenting Micheál

mullinr2

Im afraid the final score is going to be embarrassing for us. Its about saving face now

zetecescort

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Probably a wild swing, but very harsh.

yeah, Fan Larkin's hatchet outlawed along time ago thankfully

dirkmeister

Joe Lyng deserved to walk there.

Deskjockey

Now *that* was a deserved red

blackwave

dirkmeister wrote: »

Joe Lyng deserved to walk there.

Stupid challenge by him, things are going from bad to worse for us

BQQ

No complaints with that one.

Disappointing stuff even allowing for the extra man.
Constantly sleeping on the short puck outs is driving me mad.

zetecescort

How many days before Eddie Keher will be in the paper with his "manly men " speil?

BQQ

Good fighting spirit shown by the 13 men.

Dublin seemed to lose their way. Don't know if they switched off or what happened to them.

kksaints

BQQ wrote: »

Good fighting spirit shown by the 13 men.

Dublin seemed to lose their way. Don't know if they switched off or what happened to them.

Looked like the Dubs started to run out of steam badly in the last 5-10 minutes. Disappointing result but having been down to 13 men I wouldnt be too concerned. Goalie was dodgy in the 1st half and the defence was pulled about a bit but it was only our second match of the year and we should improve considerably.

First sending off I still have no idea what it was for. Second was a deserved red.

Realt Dearg Sec

zetecescort wrote: »

How many days before Eddie Keher will be in the paper with his "manly men " speil?

No reaction the first time, I suppose it was worth you trying another cut. Failed again though.

citykat

zetecescort wrote: »

How many days before Eddie Keher will be in the paper with his "manly men " speil?

Weren't too many 'manly men' in red and white last week...

citykat

zetecescort wrote: »

very harsh red but no argument from Farrell or Cody. maybe more to it?

Criminal decision

Junior D

Is the new jersey up for sale yet anywhere?

mullinr2

Lets face we were all surprised we won in Cork. The media hyped up our strength in depth. the scoreline today flattered us. The dubs played a much better game, we had no real game plan, no fluency to our play. A few players just not up to the level required. If we play with the same team for the last 3 games we're in bother. Padraig Walsh back to the backs instead of Kennedy or Keogh. The two of them are not up to much. I know its harsh. Stick on Kevin Kelly up front and move Richie to midfield or half forward.

Kkboy

Not a lot of positives to be taken from todays match, Paul Murphy did ok, Matthew Ruth worked hard and took his goals well, and the team battled hard in the last 10 minutes to at least make the score line look acceptable.

To be honest with the teams we have available at the moment 2 points and a points difference of -3 after the first two games isn't too bad. Id be more worried that Kilkenny haven't found anything new and concerns about some of the existing panel members seem to be confirmed. With a bit of luck around injuries we will be the team to beat again this year, but if we are unlucky the difference between our first choice players and their potential replacements seems a lot bigger than any other time since Cody has been manager.

ole ole

Good fight in the last 10 mins, brian kennedy is possibly the worst defender iv ever seen in the black and amber there is no way he can be left on the panel and keough is no better,really need to beat galway nxt day out.

citykat

mullinr2 wrote: »

Eoin Murphy very dodgy at the mo

He should tell Jackie to **** off next time he looks for the short puck out. Fail to see what benefit there is from short puck outs.

randd1

dastardly00 wrote: »

I've watched the incident about 4 or 5 times now and I still can't figure out what the red card was for

Because it was a Cork ref. Them southerners have it in for us big time because we took hurling from tippy tappy **** to actually hurling using all the ranges of skill available, they just can't seem to get over the fact we destroyed their running game. They don't like physicality in hurling, so give out cards from confetti. It's why their club scene is so bereft of real cut, and why they've fallen so far back. Unfortunately the likes of Donal Og will push for this type of reffing, and we'll just have to adjust.

Expect more terrible red cards across the hurling scene this year.

ole ole

where was the same donal og when conor fogarty got his shinbone broken by the cork corner foward?not a mention on the sunday sport or the newspapers,im sure we will read all about the 2 kk red cards tomorrow tho.

randd1

ole ole wrote: »

where was the same donal og when conor fogarty got his shinbone broken by the cork corner foward?not a mention on the sunday sport or the newspapers,im sure we will read all about the 2 kk red cards tomorrow tho.

It's only Kilkenny that are dirty, don't you know that by now?

No argument on the second red, but the first was atrocious. Some poor decisions in Cork last week as well. Think the refs might pull rank with Cody over the Kelly comments.

ole ole

barry kelly is our biggest threat to the all ireland.

deadybai

Will there be any bodies back for the next league match? We play Galway in the next league match in Pearse stadium.

ole ole

richie power hopefully, padraig walsh needs to go back half back, kennedy would be out of his depth at under 14 level.

Realt Dearg Sec

ole ole wrote: »

barry kelly is our biggest threat to the all ireland.

Ah in fairness if you watched today and decided referees are our biggest problem? We were bet on every line of the field.

citykat

Not too down about the result today. After last week though, very surprised at the performance and how flat we were, especially in the first half. We were playing against a stiff breeze but the lack of scoring was telling. Our failure to take scores heaped the pressure on our backs and I thought Keogh, Jackie and Kennedy struggled for the entire half. Buckley had a better game this week and I thought had the measure of Sutcliff when switched. Up to the sending off, the forwards were creating plenty but not converting. At one man down, the forwards were numerically inferior and I think struggled subsequently. At two men down, the game was effectively over and I think the Dubs knew it and took the foot off the pedal. We got a couple of scrappy goals after that which we probably wouldn't have scored in a closer game.
Wouldn't think Cody will make wholesale changes on foot of this result. Think this group deserve the chance to redeem themselves. Hopefully the ref will see sense and rescind the red handed to Farrell. If not Farrell will pay a heavy price in games for having done SFA.

Gentleman Off The Pitch

ole ole wrote: »

richie power hopefully, padraig walsh needs to go back half back, kennedy would be out of his depth at under 14 level.

I think you've had your spake about Kennedy now, maybe you could go easy on the personal stuff

ole ole

lets call a spade a spade,he was drowning he was so far out of his depth and lets face it,its not the first time is it?

Gentleman Off The Pitch

ole ole wrote: »

lets call a spade a spade,he was drowning he was so far out of his depth and lets face it,its not the first time is it?

Look, I know he didn't have a good game, marking an exceptional player but I just think labelling him 'possibly the worst defender' Kilkenny have ever had and stating he must be dropped from the panel etc. is a bit much.

I just think if we as supporters of Kilkenny are to criticise the performance of our players we should keep in mind the fact that they are giving it their all, and the criticism can be made without being too personal or disparaging

Junior D

To be quite honest I find those comments about Kennedy disgraceful. He is still young and giving his best out there and is in not out of his depth. He's had 2 games where he's struggled, but he had a solid year last year. He was one of the highly rated backs coming up through the age groups, and that wasn't for no reason. Give him time. To just jump on his back like that shows an incredible lack of patience and understanding

ole ole

He was dropped last year because he got destroyed thats why, and 2 games in this year and 2 more roastings,how many chances do you think he should get?

Charlie69

Brian Kennedy is an excellent hurler, sure he struggled on Sutcliffe today, no shame in that, Tommy Walsh always struggled with Danny.
Give the chap a chance, its not as easy as it looks, I believe Brian will be Kilkenny regular for years to come.

pat 22

Junior D wrote: »

To be quite honest I find those comments about Kennedy disgraceful. He is still young and giving his best out there and is in not out of his depth. He's had 2 games where he's struggled, but he had a solid year last year. He was one of the highly rated backs coming up through the age groups, and that wasn't for no reason. Give him time. To just jump on his back like that shows an incredible lack of patience and understanding

I have to agree with u there. I havnt seen the game. As am out of the country. Only going on what's said here. And I'm not liking it. Like what's said above, I think the comments about Kennedy are disgraceful. Dublin are obviously training hard. Prob well ahead of other teams this time of yr.

ole ole

lads ye are on a differant planet if ye think this lad is kk standard.Im not only judging him on todays pathetic display but on lots of other ones as well, why say any differant? he is not good enough,thats not an attack on him its just a fact thats as clear as day.

pat 22

ole ole wrote: »

lads ye are on a differant planet if ye think this lad is kk standard.Im not only judging him on todays pathetic display but on lots of other ones as well, why say any differant? he is not good enough,thats not an attack on him its just a fact thats as clear as day.

Danny sutcliffe gives every player he comes up against a hard time. One of the top forwards in the country with a few yrs. I dont see why u can come on and slate Kennedy like that. I always thought he has lots to offer. Give the guy a chance ffs.

Charlie69

ole ole wrote: »

lads ye are on a differant planet if ye think this lad is kk standard.Im not only judging him on todays pathetic display but on lots of other ones as well, why say any differant? he is not good enough,thats not an attack on him its just a fact thats as clear as day.

It's not a fact, it's just your opinion..

droppingball

Thankfully Mr Cody doesn't rule out our young talent like some on here, kennedy was poor today but i wouldnt rule him out yet. Ref was a disgrace on the first sending off, thought jonjo was looking lively until that point. Kilkenny looked off the pace but not only are we down a few we ate a good fews weeks behind other teams.

When you consider that is dublins full team at full tilt I wouldnt be panicking just yet when you consider the firepower we are missing.

andyman

It wasn't a red card on Farrell, but I can see why the ref gave it. On some angles it did look like a dirty strike. It 100% wasn't a dirty stroke or a red, but I'll give the ref a chance to rescind it and admit he got the call wrong before jumping on him.

Kilkenny were second best today unfortunately. They just didn't look like they knew what they were doing. Kennedy was poor, but some of the comments about him here are way too harsh. He's 22, Jackie looked worse at that age and he even said he was far from the standard himself. To criticise Kennedy for a poor game against Danny Sutcliffe is like saying Bonner Maher didn't deserve an All-Star because he was marked out of it in one game by one of the best man markers in the game in Joyce.

Positives, no goals conceded, Matty Ruth put in a good shift, and we only lost by 5. The scoreline flatters us, granted, but once Lyng went it was damage limitation.

Realt Dearg Sec

To be fair there's only one poster being too harsh on Kennedy. He was bad but the only back I was at all happy with was Buckley, and that was only once he switched onto Sutcliffe. So singling out Kennedy is missing the point. Not to mention the forwards were even worse, certainly Kennedy had a better game than Mark Kelly, for example, Padraig Walsh was well marshalled by Keaney, Walter struggled, jonjo did ok until the card but hardly set the world alight. There was nobody very good except Richie Hogan, imo, so insulting Kennedy for his performance is definitely harsh but I think most posters recognise that.

J DEERE

I think Brian Codys ability to spot a diamond in the rough is one of the reasons kilkenny have been so successful over the last 15 years. He has brought players onto the panel over the years who were virtually unknowns and may have surprised quite a few by getting the call but went on to establish themselves and have careers that are the envy of hurlers all over the country for example Eddie Brennan, Derek Lyng, Aidan Fogarty, Jackie tyrell, eoin larkin, mick kavanagh, jj Delaney, Brian Hogan etc. These tough games won't do Kennedy any harm. He will take more from them than easy games where he hurls well

The Premier Man

ole ole wrote: »

barry kelly is our biggest threat to the all ireland.

Ha this is some quote, I feel sorry for you if you actually believe this

The Premier Man

randd1 wrote: »

Because it was a Cork ref. Them southerners have it in for us big time because we took hurling from tippy tappy **** to actually hurling using all the ranges of skill available, they just can't seem to get over the fact we destroyed their running game. They don't like physicality in hurling, so give out cards from confetti. It's why their club scene is so bereft of real cut, and why they've fallen so far back. Unfortunately the likes of Donal Og will push for this type of reffing, and we'll just have to adjust.

Expect more terrible red cards across the hurling scene this year.

Is that you Eddie keher?