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Jimmy Bottles

Still waiting on those quotes savannahkat

savannahkat

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

Still waiting on those quotes savannahkat

Like a good student go and do your own research.

savannahkat

It is taking you an awful long time so I will help you out. Go to page 179 on your own Waterford thread,

"People on here seem to be delighted that Jackie Tyrrell won't be available for Kilkenny. On the big Croke Park pitch, players like Dunford and Shane Bennett could really scorch Tyrrell."

Oh yeah what is this thing another of your posters said about Eddie Brennan nearly decapitating a Limerick Players in 07.
You fairly threw the sh'yte at Eddie in many posts and why he gave an opinion. Most of the name callin directed at Eddie was because he is a former Kilkenny player and no other reason.

Now like a good man please stop interrupting your elders with your cries of "are we there yet" are we there yet.

unrealtime

As usual, game will be won on the pitch. We have a young developing team with one or two concerns still in the backs and forwards .

We should have enough to win but with Mick Fennelly and Richie Power there, I think we would be unstoppable.

Jimmy Bottles

savannahkat wrote: »

It is taking you an awful long time so I will help you out. Go to page 179 on your own Waterford thread,

"People on here seem to be delighted that Jackie Tyrrell won't be available for Kilkenny. On the big Croke Park pitch, players like Dunford and Shane Bennett could really scorch Tyrrell."

Oh yeah what is this thing another of your posters said about Eddie Brennan nearly decapitating a Limerick Players in 07.
You fairly threw the sh'yte at Eddie in many posts and why he gave an opinion. Most of the name callin directed at Eddie was because he is a former Kilkenny player and no other reason.

Now like a good man please stop interrupting your elders with your cries of "are we there yet" are we there yet.

I see you don't understand the difference between "could" and "will"

dcrosskid

savannahkat wrote: »

David Herrity
Paul Murphy, JJ Delaney Jackie Tyrell
Tommy Walsh Brian Hogan Cillian Buckley.


Could become
Eoin Murphy
Paul Murphy Joey Holden, Shane Pendergast
Padraigh Walsh Kieran Joyce Cillian Buckley.

What a marvelous job Brian Cody has done to keep us at the very top with so much change.
I was very impressed with Shane Pendergast for the time he was on against Galway but hope Jackie makes it for the Waterford game. His sheer physical presence is much underrated.

What year was the first backline above selected in? 13?

Eoin Murphy is an improvement on Herrity, Paul Murphy is probably better now but it's much & much really, JJ is a fair bit ahead of Holden but not a bad replacement, haven't seen much of Shane Prendergast but think he is a bit of a step down from Jackie T, Padraig Walsh is probably better than the TW of 2013, Kieran Joyce is about even with the B. Hogan of 2013 also, it's debatable but maybe Joyce is slightly better even & Cillian Buckley is after improving a lot in the last 2 years.

It's an improved half back line but a lot weaker in the full back line with a better goalie imo.

robwen

deadybai wrote: »

Is the hill open for the match vs Waterford? If so how much will they be. I cant remember how much they were last year.Thanks

€25 for terrace €40 for stands

savannahkat

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

I see you don't understand the difference between "could" and "will"

Neither of them are capable of scorching Jackie so could or would is irrelevant however the notion that they could is so outlandish only a Waterford supporter would come up with it. I know why you are attacking Eddie Brennan , it was because he rammed the first two goals past ye in 08. O8 the year Waterford disgraced hurling by coming out to play dirty, belting, left right and center with hurleys and that was before the ball was thrown in. I suppose you will say that did not happen as well but I would check first with Dan Shanahan who has said it happened exactly like that but Davy was to blame.

Mountainlad

2008, the year Waterford disgraced hurling eh? It's funny that you actually tried to pretend you would have no qualms seeing Waterford win an all Ireland. The only team you don't resent are Wexford from what I've seen, and the reason being ye lace them annually.

pat 22

If the match it self is anything like the slaps being thrown here were in for a cracker of a game :-) !!

carq

savannahkat wrote: »

Neither of them are capable of scorching Jackie so could or would is irrelevant however the notion that they could is so outlandish only a Waterford supporter would come up with it. I know why you are attacking Eddie Brennan , it was because he rammed the first two goals past ye in 08. O8 the year Waterford disgraced hurling by coming out to play dirty, belting, left right and center with hurleys and that was before the ball was thrown in. I suppose you will say that did not happen as well but I would check first with Dan Shanahan who has said it happened exactly like that but Davy was to blame.

You have 2 people on the last 2 pages say it happened. You have a serious chip on your shoulder. Maybe go for a walk and clear your head, and your paranoia.

brookville

Jackie ruled out so no one will be destroying him hopefully he can get back soon and we haven't seen the last of him

pmy.murphy

brookville wrote: »

Jackie ruled out so no one will be destroying him hopefully he can get back soon and we haven't seen the last of him

Once hes back for us on the 6th of September were grand. Thats the most important game as far as I can see

brookville

I wouldn't be looking past wd and I know the players or management team won't be either,this time last year we were unbackable against limerick and we were very lucky to get over the line that day,this time we won't have power or henry to come on;it's all on the day no matter what people think,tipp are a very good side and it took them 63 mins to shake wd off at home,I think tj will have to play on the wing because they smothered bubbles and sheamie inside,I certainly wouldn't be booking the citywest yet

thinlizzy51

whatever about the waterford game.jackie Tyrell is still one of the best defenders in the game.what true legendcork wouldn't give for a jt.he has seen off many a forward. the person who will be most pleased to see he os out injured is the man who would have have had to face him.lets hope he can make Iit back for the final if we get there.true legend jt

HatchetMan7

savannahkat wrote: »

Neither of them are capable of scorching Jackie so could or would is irrelevant however the notion that they could is so outlandish only a Waterford supporter would come up with it. I know why you are attacking Eddie Brennan , it was because he rammed the first two goals past ye in 08. O8 the year Waterford disgraced hurling by coming out to play dirty, belting, left right and center with hurleys and that was before the ball was thrown in. I suppose you will say that did not happen as well but I would check first with Dan Shanahan who has said it happened exactly like that but Davy was to blame.

I think to be fair now the quote was "could scorch" which to me they were talking about pace not hurling ability. Tyrell has been a brilliant corner back just ask Mullane. But once you get into your 30's you lose some of your pace and as Dunford is very quick i think he would beat him for pace. However hurling is not all about speed but reading of the game, heart, hunger, determination, stickwork etc etc which Jackie has in spades and even though he hasn't played up to his own high standards this year its definitely a huge plus for Waterford if he's not on the field.

pmy.murphy

brookville wrote: »

I wouldn't be looking past wd and I know the players or management team won't be either,this time last year we were unbackable against limerick and we were very lucky to get over the line that day,this time we won't have power or henry to come on;it's all on the day no matter what people think,tipp are a very good side and it took them 63 mins to shake wd off at home,I think tj will have to play on the wing because they smothered bubbles and sheamie inside,I certainly wouldn't be booking the citywest yet

If Waterford beat us I will eat my shoe. This inferior complex they have when it comes to playing us will surface again in Croke Park which at this level is completely new territory for them. The ultimate difference will be the class of the forwards which we have in our favour in abundance and they most certainly wont out work us with the likes of Mick Fennelly, Fogarty, Larkin etc out around the forty and the middle of the field. This is a much different physical test for them and its not like these crowding tactics are something we havent seen before

delaney001

dirkmeister wrote: »

TG4 always have top class songs to go with their sport!



That 2006 final still has to be one of the sweetest...I dug up this quote from Dan Shanahan after Cork had beaten them...

“The way they celebrated after beating us, I think it’s their All-Ireland final. If anyone was going to beat them it was us and they caught us on the day. Kilkenny will give them a game, but no disrespect, I think Cork have the upper hand on them.

“If Cork want it, they’ll keep going for four and five. They’re all young fellows. Brian Corcoran is the oldest but he keeps himself very fresh.’’

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/agony-of-defeat-still-fresh-for-shanahan-10819.html






Things didn't quite pan out that way.

That was hardly that much of a stretch from Dan. Cork had just won the two previous all Ireland's, in reasonably stylish fashion. And were now entering their third in a row in good form. To say that they would win the next match and one more all Ireland (having won the last two) wasn't that outlandish.

Mountainlad

pmy.murphy wrote: »

If Waterford beat us I will eat my shoe. This inferior complex they have when it comes to playing us will surface again in Croke Park which at this level is completely new territory for them. The ultimate difference will be the class of the forwards which we have in our favour in abundance and they most certainly wont out work us with the likes of Mick Fennelly, Fogarty, Larkin etc out around the forty and the middle of the field. This is a much different physical test for them and its not like these crowding tactics are something we havent seen before

Get out the salt and pepper

Kenajonn

I for one have enjoyed watching Waterford. I think we are being a little disrespectful in saying they play a certain type of hurling that is boring. We should know better than most after all we were labelled a dirty team for the last few years. If we were not to win Liam this year, who could begrudge Waterford an all Ireland.

pmy.murphy

Kenajonn wrote: »

I for one have enjoyed watching Waterford. I think we are being a little disrespectful in saying they play a certain type of hurling that is boring. We should know better than most after all we were labelled a dirty team for the last few years. If we were not to win Liam this year, who could begrudge Waterford an all Ireland.

I would. Do you genuinely believe that they would return the favour if we beat them?

Cornerback1

HatchetMan7 wrote: »

I think to be fair now the quote was "could scorch" which to me they were talking about pace not hurling ability. Tyrell has been a brilliant corner back just ask Mullane. But once you get into your 30's you lose some of your pace and as Dunford is very quick i think he would beat him for pace. However hurling is not all about speed but reading of the game, heart, hunger, determination, stickwork etc etc which Jackie has in spades and even though he hasn't played up to his own high standards this year its definitely a huge plus for Waterford if he's not on the field.

Tony Browne -the older he got, the better he got.

Realt Dearg Sec

pmy.murphy wrote: »

I would. Do you genuinely believe that they would return the favour if we beat them?

Which team that's left would? I'd rather waterford than either of the other teams win it.

Kenajonn

Then maybe you should understand when other counties do not want Kilkenny to win. If you begrudge a county one all Ireland what must they feel like when we are winning so many over the last few years.

Cornerback1

Kenajonn wrote: »

Then maybe you should understand when other counties do not want Kilkenny to win. If you begrudge a county one all Ireland what must they feel like when we are winning so many over the last few years.

I'm of the opinion that the other teams must step up to Kilkenny's standards. It's all about the winning at senior inter-county level - as it is in any sport.

pmy.murphy

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Which team that's left would? I'd rather waterford than either of the other teams win it.

Id rather anyone than the noisy neighbours to win it. The boasting is bad enough when they win one game

skaface

pmy.murphy wrote: »

I would. Do you genuinely believe that they would return the favour if we beat them?

Don't know how you'd cope if you were waiting since '59 like us to win one..
That my friend is why we are the best supporters in the country , and genuine Waterford supporters would have admired the Kilkenny sides from the last decade..
Don't be getting Gready now ;-))

Buck Melanoma

skaface wrote: »

Don't know how you'd cope if you were waiting since '59 like us to win one..
That my friend is why we are the best supporters in the country , and genuine Waterford supporters would have admired the Kilkenny sides from the last decade..
Don't be getting Gready now ;-))

Didn't ye win in 1963 ?

HatchetMan7

Buck Melanoma wrote: »

Didn't ye win in 1963 ?

48 and 59. In 63 we were beaten by Eddie Keher. We did win the league in 63 i think.

skaface

Buck Melanoma wrote: »

Didn't ye win in 1963 ?

We scored 6 goals in that AI and still got beaten :-((

Mountainlad

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Id rather anyone than the noisy neighbours to win it. The boasting is bad enough when they win one game

Surprised Pmy thought more of you.

I'd say your dislike is coloring your assessment of the upcoming to by the way.

Mountainlad

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Id rather anyone than the noisy neighbours to win it. The boasting is bad enough when they win one game

Surprised Pmy thought more of you.

I'd say your dislike is coloring your assessment of the upcoming to by the way.

pmy.murphy

Mountainlad wrote: »

Surprised Pmy thought more of you.

I'd say your dislike is coloring your assessment of the upcoming to by the way.

I was having a bit of a laugh there too by the way. I honestly dont care who wins if its not us. Probably wouldnt even watch the All Ireland as Id prob still be sulking that were not in it.

I do think ye will give us a game but experience and clinical forwards will get us over the line. Its much too soon for ye this year to be beating ourselves or Tipp. Ye should be delighted with how the year has gone even if ye do lose. Id give it another 2 years and ye will be there or thereabouts. Still think ye are missing a real marquee forward

Buck Melanoma

Mountainlad wrote: »

2008, the year Waterford disgraced hurling eh? It's funny that you actually tried to pretend you would have no qualms seeing Waterford win an all Ireland. The only team you don't resent are Wexford from what I've seen, and the reason being ye lace them annually.

Well i was in the Davin Stand in 2008 and had a good view of the whole pitch and i have to say it was targeted premeditated assault on certain Kilkenny players. Big shout out to Eoin 'dancer' Murphy for his 'greeting' on Eddie Brennan. . It really annoys when i hear Kilkenny being accused of being dirty, cynical, playing on the edge when i have witnessed some of the asaults perpetuated (mostly unpunished )against Kilkenny players. Big shout out to Padraic Maher in 2012 semi final as i write this and of course Cathal McCallister.

Mountainlad

Buck Melanoma wrote: »

Well i was in the Davin Stand in 2008 and had a good view of the whole pitch and i have to say it was targeted premeditated assault on certain Kilkenny players. Big shout out to Eoin 'dancer' Murphy for his 'greeting' on Eddie Brennan. . It really annoys when i hear Kilkenny being accused of being dirty, cynical, playing on the edge when i have witnessed some of the asaults perpetuated (mostly unpunished )against Kilkenny players. Big shout out to Padraic Maher in 2012 semi final as i write this and of course Cathal McCallister.

Yeah it was bad but lesson well and truly learnt after the hammering they got. In fairness, instructions from a man that is hated unanimously in Waterford and was neither the form since or before.

Think about 2004, 2009 and 2011. Do you recall anything similar? Would be surprised yed still hang onto that given the hammering ye gave us, plus I don't think there was any stroke like the one Maher gave to TJ Reid in 2012 albeit I only really could see what the forwards were at and what was going on between Seamus Prender and Tommy Walsh.

HatchetMan7

Mountainlad wrote: »

Yeah it was bad but lesson well and truly learnt after the hammering they got. In fairness, instructions from a man that is hated unanimously in Waterford and was neither the form since or before.

Think about 2004, 2009 and 2011. Do you recall anything similar? Would be surprised yed still hang onto that given the hammering ye gave us, plus I don't think there was any stroke like the one Maher gave to TJ Reid in 2012 albeit I only really could see what the forwards were at and what was going on between Seamus Prender and Tommy Walsh.

In fairness too, Davy sent out Eoin Murphy and Seamus Prendergast to get into scuffles with Kilkenny players. Anyone knows anything about these two will know that they are probably the cleanest players to play for Waterford at that time. I would actually say that it put both Murphy and Pender off their games to be told to do this before the ball was thrown in. An absolute crazy tactic from Davy especially asking those two players to do it.

3ships

Still I thought it was funny when Eoin Murphy gave Bishop Brennan (sorry Eddie Brennan) a kick in the a**e

HatchetMan7

pmy.murphy wrote: »

I was having a bit of a laugh there too by the way. I honestly dont care who wins if its not us. Probably wouldnt even watch the All Ireland as Id prob still be sulking that were not in it.

I do think ye will give us a game but experience and clinical forwards will get us over the line. Its much too soon for ye this year to be beating ourselves or Tipp. Ye should be delighted with how the year has gone even if ye do lose. Id give it another 2 years and ye will be there or thereabouts. Still think ye are missing a real marquee forward

We're hoping that Patrick Curran, Shane Bennett and Austin Gleeson can become our marquee forwards over the next few years.

citykat

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Id rather anyone than the noisy neighbours to win it. The boasting is bad enough when they win one game

Wouldn't have a problem with the Deise. Though there's only so much of Maurice's fist pumping and crest clutching I can watch.

3ships

citykat wrote: »

Wouldn't have a problem with the Deise. Though there's only so much of Maurice's fist pumping and crest clutching I can watch.

In fairness to Maurice he is doing a good job of keeping the heat off the young lads around him. Also the most annoying thing in hurling is the cup lifting from your lads. Fair play but no comparison to the odd show of emotion elsewhere

unrealtime

Tannion's blow on TJ was the worst I ever saw - so sneaky, the blow of a coward - and he was rewarded with an All Star for it too.

brookville

Jackie and richie are ruled out but mick fennelly should be playing

JimboJones99

3ships wrote: »

Still I thought it was funny when Eoin Murphy gave Bishop Brennan (sorry Eddie Brennan) a kick in the a**e

I'd say that was the only laugh you got that day!!

droppingball

3ships wrote: »

Still I thought it was funny when Eoin Murphy gave Bishop Brennan (sorry Eddie Brennan) a kick in the a**e

Sweet thing was Eddie never reacted and after around 5 minutes Murphy was running along the endline with the ball and eddie levelled him with a shoulder and buried two goals straight after. It was the perfect response. Can't imagine any Waterford fans enjoyed that

blue note

Hopefully Kilkenny will stick to the hurling this time.

Realt Dearg Sec

blue note wrote: »

Hopefully Kilkenny will stick to the hurling this time.

Yeah they really let themselves down that day.

blue note

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Yeah they really let themselves down that day.

Poor eoin mcgrath. The lad wouldn't hurt a fly. Very unfair to pick on him like that.

redlead

blue note wrote: »

Poor eoin mcgrath. The lad wouldn't hurt a fly. Very unfair to pick on him like that.

At least Tommy decided to pick on someone his own size. That time he decided to accidentally lash his hurley off Eoin Kellys wrist I thought kelly was going to kill him.

adrian522

Independent reporting that Richie Power, Jackie Tyrell and Mick Fennelly all out for next week.

We'll still put out a good team but the options from the bench will be limited compared to last year.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/kilkenny-face-injury-crisis-for-dise-clash-31414391.html

redlead

adrian522 wrote: »

Independent reporting that Richie Power, Jackie Tyrell and Mick Fennelly all out for next week.

We'll still put out a good team but the options from the bench will be limited compared to last year.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/kilkenny-face-injury-crisis-for-dise-clash-31414391.html

Mick Fennelly must be one of the unluckiest men in Ireland with injuries. He was the best player in the country before they all stated in my opinion. Richie seems to be going the same way unfortunately.