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Testosterone Test Results

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jasksta


    Brian? wrote: »
    So you got your testosterone checked and it's fine. But you wanted a different answer?

    The reason GPs are reluctant to check test levels is probably because they constantly have lads in their late teens/early 20s who spend too much time on the internet asking to have it checked.

    Yeah that's exactly right.. and then are folks that spend way too much time on forums responding to threads that they no know absolutely nothing about and contribute ZERO to the discussion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jasksta


    the figures in the brackets are reference ranges

    Jakasta, I think you should go resit the leaving cert, get 560+ point, do hpat, get a good score, spend 5 years doing very difficult exams, spend a gruelling year or two as a intern and a SHO in a hospital, apply for a GP training programme, spend 4 years training to be a GP then, self-diagnose and treat your condition.

    If I had interest in becoming a GP then I would have done exactly just that! Furthermore, If I had gone through all that to become a gp I may even listen to my patients rather than just fobbing them off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jasksta


    So sitting talking to a patient about why they dont need this test, why their symptoms are probably something else that they don't yet want to accept but is a clear as day to the doctor who sees this twenty times a day, and listening the the patient drone on about what they read on the internet taking up a huge amount of valuable time, is lazy.

    But just shrugging a doing what they are told by the patient and ordering the nurse take bloods sending them away to the lab and getting a re-attend fee to discuss the results somehow highly proactive. Or referring them to a specialist which take 1 minute.

    What you reallyt mean is most GP dont do what they are told to do by ill informed patients

    Not true!! Fist I asked for the testosterone test, gp said no. He said a thyroid test would be best as this is more accurate and he did not believe in low testosterone.

    I told him, I had NO symptoms of thyroid problems. He did the test anyway. Guess what, results came back okay.

    Visited him another few times before he finally agreed to test my test levels. Results came back as mentioned at the start of this thread.

    Now he did not explain that my symptoms are probably something else or offer any other advice whatsoever. Handed me the results and that was pretty much that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jasksta


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Well no, I doubt any doctor could justify putting a patient on a waiting list and then expecting them to pay what ever fee the endocrinologist charges after the patient has already paid to see the doctor and all that for a simple blood test.



    I have never heard of a local GP having a nurse on staff, big time city folk and your big time city GPs.



    Yes 100% yes. IMO in the eyes of most GPs you are just a walking euro sign.

    True, very true. They just don't care and it's as simple as that!

    The whole point of starting this thread was to get opinions/advice on low testosterone, in particular the numbers on my result sheet.

    I am not depressed in any way shape or form. I'm 35, very active, workout 5-6 times per week. Some weeks, twice per day. Don't drink and don't smoke and eat fairly healthy. Take Omega 3,6 and 9 aswell as mulitvitamins every day. Also supplement with protein and bcaa's every now again depending on how hard I'm training.

    I have all the symptoms of low test.

    Decreased sex drive
    Reduced energy level
    Reduced strength and endurance levels
    Difficulty concentrating

    I am not imagining this, it is a fact and please if you know nothing on the matter or you're just trying to be a smart ass then I'm not interested in what you have to say!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    So you know its not thyroid and its not testosterone cause these results are normal. Thats a good start. Unfortunately your symptoms are common to a number of conditions, that will have to be rules out one by one, if your GP is disinterested in treating you find a new GP. Specialist referral is an option, but it not entirely clear which specialist you should be sent to at this stage?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    workout 5-6 times per week. Some weeks, twice per day.

    That's a lot of gym work, maybe over training?
    Take Omega 3,6 and 9 aswell as mulitvitamins every day

    I would ditch the 6 and 9 and just focus on taking in a decent amount of Omega 3. Do you take Vit D3 ?

    ZMA (zinc and magnesium) has been touted as a testosterone "booster". Zinc is very important for the production of testosterone and often we don't consume enough through our diets. It's also a good sleep aid. Try not to take with calcium as the calcium inhibits it's absorption.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Works pour 5-6 days a week and sometimes twice a day.

    Maybe you are over trained?

    Reported effects of overtraining:

    Physiological

    Lymphocytopenia[6]
    Excessive weight loss
    Excessive loss of body fat
    Increased resting heart rate
    Decreased muscular strength
    Increased submaximal heart rate
    Inability to complete workouts
    Chronic muscle soreness
    Fatigue
    Increased incidence of injury
    Depressed immune system
    Constipation or diarrhea
    Absence of menstruation
    Frequent minor infections/colds
    Insomnia
    Heart Palpitations
    Lower Testosterone Levels
    Higher Cortisol Levels
    Psychological

    Depression
    Loss of appetite
    Mood Disturbance[5]
    Irritability
    Loss of motivation
    Loss of enthusiasm
    Loss of competitive drive
    Performance

    Early onset of fatigue
    Decreased aerobic capacity
    Poor physical performance
    Inability to complete workouts
    Delayed recovery


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Jasksta wrote: »

    Yeah that's exactly right.. and then are folks that spend way too much time on forums responding to threads that they no know absolutely nothing about and contribute ZERO to the discussion.


    I contributed exactly what I felt was needed.

    You had your testosterone levels checked, they're within normal limits. Ergo you don't have low testosterone.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    Jasksta wrote: »
    True, very true. They just don't care and it's as simple as that!

    The whole point of starting this thread was to get opinions/advice on low testosterone, in particular the numbers on my result sheet.

    I am not depressed in any way shape or form. I'm 35, very active, workout 5-6 times per week. Some weeks, twice per day. Don't drink and don't smoke and eat fairly healthy. Take Omega 3,6 and 9 aswell as mulitvitamins every day. Also supplement with protein and bcaa's every now again depending on how hard I'm training.

    I have all the symptoms of low test.

    Decreased sex drive
    Reduced energy level
    Reduced strength and endurance levels
    Difficulty concentrating

    I am not imagining this, it is a fact and please if you know nothing on the matter or you're just trying to be a smart ass then I'm not interested in what you have to say!

    First of all go and get your iron/ferritin levels checked, if they are high just give blood and it will sort it and make you feel less tired ect.

    Secondly total test levels are next to useless, it's free test that matters. A private clinic will test it for a fee, I know The Well in the beacon do it for about 150 euro. The interesting thing about the numbers in that study was the was total test didn't decrease dramatically with age, in fact the 35-44 age group had higher total test levels and the 45-54 group had the same levels as the 25-34 but SHBG went up steadily and free test went down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jasksta


    From what I've been reading i have to agree: total test levels are next to useless

    So why do they bother with this test?

    Anyone recommend a private clinic in Limerick that will test "Free Test" Levels?


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