Can my boss force me to go outside in the rain?

ballsymchugh

Bob the Builder wrote: »

And then bill the company for it...

No there's not. Just because there's 430,000 on jobseekers allowance, it doesn't mean there's 430,000 looking for a job.

if she bills the company, then it would need to stay in the offices while she runs through the rain to the car on the way home.

Mrs OBumble

Bob the Builder wrote: »

No there's not. Just because there's 430,000 on jobseekers allowance, it doesn't mean there's 430,000 looking for a job.

Yawn. That's because lots of unemployed people have partners who are working and earning too much for them to qualify for JSA.

So actually there are more than 430,000 people looking for a job. No one knows quite how many more.

But that's not what this thread is about.

So, 10 years of problems relating to the amount of sick leave taken, and now a refusal to walk to another building when it's raining. Also, you can happily stay in the car in the morning until it stops raining...

Has to be in the Public Service? Possibly some sort of admin work? I can't imagine that kind of attitude going over anywhere other than somewhere incompetence is protected. What an embarrassing way to earn a living.

ballsymchugh

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Yawn. That's because lots of unemployed people have partners who are working and earning too much for them to qualify for JSA.

So actually there are more than 430,000 people looking for a job. No one knows quite how many more.

But that's not what this thread is about.

don't forget people who left the country who'd jump at the chance to come home!

satstheway

I get wet when it rains boo hoo.
I better not go out in the sun in case I get too hot.
fluf my life

monkeypants

Get a big umbrella, preferably a large, golf one and give yourself an extra couple of minutes after the walk to dry off if still needed. Problem solved.

Wanderer2010

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Has to be in the Public Service? Possibly some sort of admin work? I can't imagine that kind of attitude going over anywhere other than somewhere incompetence is protected. What an embarrassing way to earn a living.

Not really, mate. I work in the private sector and I work with some of the most precious, lazy and entitlement-riddled employees you could imagine. The merest sniff or cough and they are out sick for 2 weeks at a time, the women refuse to do work which involves bending down to pick up rubbish or lean forward when filing. It would actually shock you to see how much sick leave these people take and I blame this on poor management in my case. Its an old cliche that its only the Public Service that contain deadwood looking to get the most benefits for the least work, plenty like that in private sector.

marknine

ellybabes wrote: »

I work on a very large campus, where all the office buildings, except one, are joined by internal corridors. I have recently been moved to the one building not joined to the others, that is a 5-7 min walk away from the rest. My manager is insisting on me going from this building to the others for specific meetings, even in the most inclement weather. Driving is not realistic, as by the time I've walked to my car, I'm half way there, and there's no guarantee of parking near the other building.

I am a permanent employee and my contracts were signed well before this new building existed. Do I have any rights to refuse to go outside when it's lashing down / snowing?

OMG I just cant believe that some one would moan about such a small thing. Wear a hat or a coat. Mind you, I kind of get the feeling that there are other work issues going on in the back ground, like bullying or unfairness from the manager. Would I be correct?

Mrs OBumble

This is a moderator reminder to please keep your posts civil.

You don't have to agree or sympathize with the OP, but you do need to be polite to him/her. Ideally offer constructive advice or perspectives.

And refrain from the "public sector" jibes. They're not helpful, and there are both waster and workers on both sides of the fence. Public sector workers face different challenges that private sector workers sometimes don't appreciate (eg having to deal with all clients, no matter how difficult/dangerous).

Whiplashy

The car park where I work is about a 5 min walk from the entrance. By your logic any morning it's raining my boss couldn't possibly expect me to get out of the car. I must try ringing the office the next morning it happens to see what I'm told. I would imagine I'd be told to go back home and wait for my P45 in the post!

Babysmurf

Yes. Your boss can even 'force' you to go to an off site meeting, no matter what the weather.

I can't imagine many people would consider it 'forcing' though, if the meetings are part of your job and they happen to be in a different building.

I work in a university with buildings spread far and wide and in my 20 years there have never once heard anyone even mention not attending a meeting because of the weather.

nlgbbbblth

D1stant wrote: »

I think you have a definite case. There is no mention of this building in your contract and forcing you to commute between buildings to mandatory meetings in the rain is a health and safety issue. If you are as specialised as you maintain - they will have to compromise. I would advise that you consult with your union if you have one and talk to a good employment lawyer







Or else leave the public service and see what life is like in the real world

There are unions in the private sector too. I am an area representative for mine. However if one of my members came to me with this issue I'd tell them to cop on and invest in an umbrella and / or rain gear.

You should think before you make lazy assumptions. :rolleyes:

tatli_lokma

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

There are unions in the private sector too. I am an area representative for mine. However if one of my members came to me with this issue I'd tell them to cop on and invest in an umbrella and / or rain gear.

You should think before you make lazy assumptions. :rolleyes:

I think D1stant was being smart - hence the last line and :rolleyes:

ChewChew

Ah this is gas altogether. Although little miss one in a million is gone very quiet! But what I'm dying to know is... You know on those days where you're alarm goes off at say 6.15am (i'll say monday) and you wake to hear the rain pounding off the window but you get up and do your bits and bobs then you leave, rain still pounding mind you, and you run to the car like phoebe in Central Park... Phew.. Just a few drops landed on your non-umberella covered head.... You make your trip using your fully functioning window wipers (they're designed for rain, right?) and You get to work but the rain is still booting it down... So you sit and wait... Sit and wait.. And three days later... You're still sitting and waiting... Do you get paid for that kinda fun??

Eoin

Can people stop acting the dick please.

vitani

Genuine piece of advice here: If you don't like your trousers getting wet in the rain, try dresses or skirts with tights and boots instead.

There's also a good weather predictor at this site http://www.yr.no/place/Ireland/ so you can even plan your wardrobe in advance.

monkeysnapper

i work for a large retail supermarket and sometimes i have to go out and pick litter or collect trolleys . As i live in Ireland it sometimes rains. then once i have completed my task i have to say go pack out stuff in the freezer at -21 degrees . How do I stay alive.

1. I have bought some waterproof trousers that will slip over my shoes (they have zips on the end of leg)

2. A good water proof jacket.

3. Decent shoes.

Both the trousers and jacket take up next to no room. And lets be honest if you have say a black pair of trousers nobodys even going to notice. you could keep both in a small pouch.

with that idea and a umbreller id say your good to go.

you can close the thread now mod :0)

solas111

Eoin wrote: »

Can people stop acting the dick please.

No. This is Ireland and it's a national pass-time.

pipie

Corkbah wrote: »

Really !! ... I want to know what you do now.

I'd say that was none of your business.

It surprise's many people who work in generic jobs, that there are actually people qualified in very specialised roles doing work that nobody thought was done.

If your so interested to know the OP's work, why not out of politeness announce your own position first.

Super hoop

Hope the Op has the rain gear handy for the morning...lol

Eoin

OK, I think the OP has gotten all the useful replies she's going to get by now. OP - PM me if you want it re-opened.