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Redo91

hullaballoo wrote: »

There's a slightly pedantic point to be made, so I'll make it.

Under the old regime, the liquidator had to make the s. 150 application between 3-5 months after he made his s. 56 report to the ODCE. Under the new Act, the liquidator has 2 months from the date on which the Director of Corporate Enforcement has notified the liquidator that the Director has not relieved the liquidator

Does the Liquidator have to wait for the letter before he can make a S 820 application? I know they have to send a report regarding the behaviour of directors to the ODCE within 12 months of their appointment. Just wondering is there any set period on the making of a S820 application other than the 2 months after that letter from the Director.

Edit: Sorry for all the questions. I know it probably deals with that in the manual but I don't have it to hand and I just said I'd ask when we are talking about the topic. Thanks for your help!

hullaballoo

Yeah, the liquidator has to wait for the letter then has 2 months to bring s. 819 (not s. 820!!!) application. There is no other period. Bear in mind that the Court has inherent jurisdiction to extend statutory limitation periods notwithstanding that the 2014 Act purports to vest that power solely in the Director of Corporate Enforcement.

The liquidator always had to wait for the letter but as above, previously that created a quirk where the liquidator submitted his report and the 3-5 month period expired before the ODCE got back to them. Thus, the liquidator had to apply for the s. 56 (2) extension of time even though it was the Director's fault.

Redo91

hullaballoo wrote: »

Yeah, the liquidator has to wait for the letter then has 2 months to bring s. 819 (not s. 820!!!) application. There is no other period. Bear in mind that the Court has inherent jurisdiction to extend statutory limitation periods notwithstanding that the 2014 Act purports to vest that power solely in the Director of Corporate Enforcement.

The liquidator always had to wait for the letter but as above, previously that created a quirk where the liquidator submitted his report and the 3-5 month period expired before the ODCE got back to them. Thus, the liquidator had to apply for the s. 56 (2) extension of time even though it was the Director's fault.

Ya sorry I got confused there. S 820 gives the liquidator power to bring a restriction order isn't it? What Section gives the court the jurisdiction to do that?

annmc882

hi guys, is it okay to ask all the legal eagles an offpoint Question about tout tickets ? Looking for general advice as to what I should do now, if this isn't allowed, that's ok ? moderator might reply...

thestar

I have spoken to a person who has done these exams before. 5 questions and 5 pages per question they wrote in 3 hours.. i can't understand how people are capable of getting so much information written down. 25 pages just seems to me to be impossible to do?

Redhighking

thestar wrote: »

I have spoken to a person who has done these exams before. 5 questions and 5 pages per question they wrote in 3 hours.. i can't understand how people are capable of getting so much information written down. 25 pages just seems to me to be impossible to do?

The examination booklet pages have very big margins for corrections so are pretty small.

the great communicator

Huge margins in the booklets but I don't think I've written more than three pages for an answer yet and I've passed 4.

Yoop

thestar wrote: »

I have spoken to a person who has done these exams before. 5 questions and 5 pages per question they wrote in 3 hours.. i can't understand how people are capable of getting so much information written down. 25 pages just seems to me to be impossible to do?

25 pages is also unnecessary. I'm on my last one and I've never gotten near that many pages - I've gotten pretty good marks in most as well so as long as you've got the main points of law, cases etc. you'll be fine.

Remember also some people have headings in their essays and skip a couple of lines for different sections and paragraphs and all that so it might not work out as five complete pages either.

More power to those who can write that much; I doubt my hand would ever recover

the great communicator

I went to that constitutional lecture in UCD but I'm not an intelligent man and I've lost my notes so here's the cases I remember.

bederev v ireland - non delegation doctrine
waxy o'connor's ltd v ??? - strict liability
NHV v minister for j - right to livelihood
Gilchrist v rogers - admin of justice in public
Doyle v ??? - solicitor present during detention (think this was 2017 so probably didn't have time to put in on exam)
Kerins case - ??? topic the charity one

Well worth the entrance fee

Pickpocket

I'm really enjoying the string of comments from people that say 3 pages is enough per answer. I love each and every one of you.

hullaballoo

Redo91 wrote: »

Ya sorry I got confused there. S 820 gives the liquidator power to bring a restriction order isn't it?

Yes.

What Section gives the court the jurisdiction to do that?

There isn't a section that gives the court jurisdiction. The High Court has original jurisdiction and can decide to extend limitation periods unless there is a provision that expressly prevents the court from doing so. If you haven't heard of that before, I suggest you look it up as it's important to know.

hullaballoo

If I ever wrote more than 3 pages for an exam question it was either (a) because I went way over time or (b) WROTE REALLY BIG.

odwyer94

Does anyone know of/have any predictions for Tort?

XxMCRxBabyxX

In Company, do all ROT clauses have to be registered now or is it still 2 do (Simple and All Sums Due) and 2 don't (Proceeds of Sale and Aggregation)? Manual is saying one thing and the lecturer is saying another!

annmc882

odwyer94 wrote: »

Does anyone know of/have any predictions for Tort?

I have my thoughts but afraid to say in case I put people wrong

annmc882

the great communicator wrote: »

I went to that constitutional lecture in UCD but I'm not an intelligent man and I've lost my notes so here's the cases I remember.

bederev v ireland - non delegation doctrine
waxy o'connor's ltd v ??? - strict liability
NHV v minister for j - right to livelihood
Gilchrist v rogers - admin of justice in public
Doyle v ??? - solicitor present during detention (think this was 2017 so probably didn't have time to put in on exam)
Kerins case - ??? topic the charity one

Well worth the entrance fee

As a person that hasn't a clue but should know, can I ask what is the lecture ye speak of, how often is it on and any idea where I'd get info for the next one? any lnfo or links would be really appreciated

odwyer94

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

In Company, do all ROT clauses have to be registered now or is it still 2 do (Simple and All Sums Due) and 2 don't (Proceeds of Sale and Aggregation)? Manual is saying one thing and the lecturer is saying another!

I'm going by the manual anyways! It says it all 4 in the city colleges one and it mentions it a few times so it's probably right...

Pickpocket

annmc882 wrote: »

As a person that hasn't a clue but should know, can I ask what is the lecture ye speak of, how often is it on and any idea where I'd get info for the next one? any lnfo or links would be really appreciated

I believe it's a lecture that's given once a year by the person that writes the constitutional exam. The line of thinking is that his 'key cases' every year are worth knowing.

odwyer94

annmc882 wrote: »

I have my thoughts but afraid to say in case I put people wrong

Have most of my topics chosen at this stage, just wondering if I'm leaving out any obvious ones!

20029422

has panic started to kick in for anyone else the last two days have loads of notes written but nothing learned.I'm also not going near my criminal and contract notes till the 13 days between my first two exams.is this a disastrous plan??

annmc882

Pickpocket wrote: »

I believe it's a lecture that's given once a year by the person that writes the constitutional exam. The line of thinking is that his 'key cases' every year are worth knowing.

Aw I see, thanks very much!

its on in UCD?

annmc882

20029422 wrote: »

has panic started to kick in for anyone else the last two days have loads of notes written but nothing learned.I'm also not going near my criminal and contract notes till the 13 days between my first two exams.is this a disastrous plan??

13 days is a long time so I wouldn't worry!!

binkevii

Hi, what came up in October 2016 for the Contract Law exam? Any help would be appreciated

Dsalmon91

Just wondering has anyone received correspondence from the Law Society outlining the exam info and candidates exam number. I know in application receipt they said these details would be sent out approximately 2 weeks before the start of the exams but I haven't received anything yet.

XxMCRxBabyxX

Dsalmon91 wrote: »

Just wondering has anyone received correspondence from the Law Society outlining the exam info and candidates exam number. I know in application receipt they said these details would be sent out approximately 2 weeks before the start of the exams but I haven't received anything yet.

I was just thinking that I hadn't received anything yet myself! Hopefully on Monday

binkevii

another question, what do you guys study for Contract? My plan:

Offer & Acceptance
Consideration
Estoppel
Capacity
Privity
Terms
Exemption Clauses
Consumer Protection
Misrepresentation
Mistake
Duress
Discharge
Remedies

is it enough? Thanks

20029422

offer acceptance
consideration
estoppel
intention to create
formal requirements
privity
capacity
terms
exclusion clauses
consumer protection & sale
mistake
duress
undue influence
uncon bargain
discharge of obligations
misrep
remedies
I know this seems like a lot but I in no way know these but I have notes on them all and after sitting the last exam and failing I'm not skipping much because you need enough topics to answer two papers really for contract

annmc882

I wish I was doing property this time around... it looks so tasty compared to the ones I'm doing ... sigh

annmc882

20029422 wrote: »

offer acceptance
consideration
estoppel
intention to create
formal requirements
privity
capacity
terms
exclusion clauses
consumer protection & sale
mistake
duress
undue influence
uncon bargain
discharge of obligations
misrep
remedies
I know this seems like a lot but I in no way know these but I have notes on them all and after sitting the last exam and failing I'm not skipping much because you need enough topics to answer two papers really for contract

The mixing of topics means your right... bring on the jitters from coffee overload.

cblack18

Constituitonal Q: Can anyone tell me if in regard to the privilege of Dail documents and utterances, is it possible to use the decision of Murphy v Dublin Corporation on draft documents? It seems to have come up in problem questions a few times and I'm not sure if you treat them the same as the final version. Thanks