Property tax letters

darkhorse

the watchman wrote: »

If you think the Property Tax is unfair or simply just don't like it, this could be a plan!.....



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Thats great. I'm in.

darkhorse

antoobrien wrote: »

What a joke



There was nothing illegal or unconsitutional about the property tax that existed pre 1997, so what makes these charges/taxes illegal and unconsitutional?

They probably might explain it in the video clip.

darkhorse

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Stamp duty is a transaction tax and has no bearing on the current discussion.

What is it a transactiion tax on?

darkhorse

amen wrote: »

our Government consisting of freely elected TDs.

That dont have a free vote.

darkhorse

dissed doc wrote: »

It makes a lot of sense to have a property tax because it doesn't have so many exemptions like income tax which is amazingly low in Ireland for people on 20-35k compared to Germany for example, and punishingly high for people on salaries over that (again compared to Germany for example).

It's quite equitable, which is clearly why some groups are angry.

Do German citizens get anything in return for paying property tax?

K-9

darkhorse wrote: »

Do German citizens get anything in return for paying property tax?

Loads, they also get loads for their high Income Tax, and the mandatory Health Insurance contributions, which even those on welfare pay? A great Health service.

Their average wage isn't much more than it was in 2000 though.

nesf

K-9 wrote: »

Did FF say no job cuts ever? Even if they did, would that not be up for discussion under a new Government/deal?

As far as I know the drop in numbers is ahead of schedule, the redundancy scheme was an success in that regard. I presume that is down to more than predicted taking the redundancy package and not replacing temporary staff let go.

Sorry, I missed this. I think no forced redundancies was agreed on under the first Croke Park deal. I'm too tired to go look it up though but that's what I remember being reported. I think there was a requirement for certain savings to be made elsewhere for this to hold true but then we get into some complicated discussions about what savings have actually been made and how much of it can be attributed to what Croke Park delivered where the Unions can easily take the high estimate and the Government the low one and we have a nasty scrap.

nesf

darkhorse wrote: »

Do German citizens get anything in return for paying property tax?

Yeah they do. They are sensible, they want high levels of service provision so everyone gets hit fairly hard in the pocket including many of the sacred cows of Irish political life. Their version of the Dole is also quite different as you drop from a fairly generous level (60-67% of your old salary up to a maximum of just under 3,000 Euro a month) to after 12 months just 382 Euro a month plus extra to cover housing, heating and health expenses. If you refuse to take a suitable job offer you can lose your benefits for 12 weeks (various rules defines what's suitable, for the first four months for instance it's any job that requires the qualifications you needed for your last job, after that any job requiring a lesser qualification, once you go onto the lower rate of benefit any job at all that pays more than your current benefit and involves 3 hours or less of travel time a day is considered suitable). Repeatedly refuse suitable job offers and they remove the benefit permanently. There are obviously some limits on this and they can't force anyone to take any job.

As K-9 said, their wage level is low, it's been kept low by design (somewhat controversially but in the long run for an export nation it's the right thing to do, it just requires thinking alien to most English speaking people/unions).

mambo

I believe Revenue are now sending "reminder" letters about the tax, to those who have not paid up yet.

My wife received such a letter, but it's the first one she's received!

It is for a property she rented up until 4 years ago, but has had nothing to do with since.

The letter was a bit nasty in that it said if she didn't reply in 7 days, her employer would be instructed to deduct the money (€427) from her wages.

It said some proof would be needed that she wasn't the owner, e.g. a copy of the lease, which she no longer has.

But I rang revenue and simply said that she rented the property four years ago, and is not the owner, and they said that's grand, they'll remove her name from that property, and no instruction will be sent to her employer. They didn't even ask if we knew who the actual owner was! (as it happens, we don't)

And the valuation was way off of course (small bedsit/flat in Dublin 6 valued at 450,000-500,000) :eek:

gaius c

howlingcat wrote: »

Hi all
I got my valuation in the post today and I think it's time the Irish stood up for themselves.
Look what Cyprus did in 2 days am we have done nothing in 5 years .
I'm not paying and that's that.
It's unfair and unjustified tax
I believe we should all have the property tax letters within the week and what should be the next step I wonder as a simple boycott is not sufficient

Pay your taxes and stop expecting your neighbour to pay them for you.