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stelville county dublin

  • 22-03-2013 11:36am
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    Registered Users Posts: 28


    hi can anybody help me my great great great grandfather lived in stelville county dublin in the year 1825,can anybody tell me where that was thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    it's not the name of a townland, parish or street... maybe the name of a house or estate ?

    what's the source and context of the place name ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    there's a mention in this RootsWeb post of the death at 'Stelville Co Dublin', of a Jn Cockaine in 1831 aged 69 years


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 gwd


    shanew wrote: »
    it's not the name of a townland, parish or street... maybe the name of a house or estate ?

    what's the source and context of the place name ?
    hi shane, i recieved this message froma lady in england with this information thanks again
    Hi Gerry
    I haven't been in touch for over 2 years.Sorry. My family research on the Davis side has been very slow since our last correspondance.Howver, I have found the following;
    Davis, Holebrook of Stelville, County Dublin, merchant tailor
    shop, 144 North King-Street, Dublin - freeman
    on list Voters for Dublin city registered in 1835

    3 Oct 1825 passed to be in Corporation of Tailors in Dublin. Sworn in 16th April 1827 - Claim Grace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    Holbrooke Davis esq. is listed in Pettigrew & Oulton directory of 1834, with an address of 'Stelville', Cross guns - so north Co. Dublin back then, later in the suburbs, and later still incorporated into the city.

    see : http://www.swilson.info/roots/po1834co/po1834co.php?pageno=13

    (he has a nice distinctive name ... so easy to spot)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Coolnabacky1873


    Any chance that Cross Guns is in the/was in the Glasnevin area?

    GoogleBooks has a snippet view of Holdbrook Davis, Stelville, Glassnevin

    However, sometimes what is in the brief description is not always on the same page. Can't access Pettigrew's 1836 if I click through.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    ^^ yes - Phibsborough, near the canal bridge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    Any chance that Cross Guns is in the/was in the Glasnevin area?
    ....
    Can't access Pettigrew's 1836 if I click through.

    The directories I have online use the same type of pdf interface as the Irish census and Dublin City parish records - should work on most PCs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    screenshot for people that cant view the directory.....

    245977.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    in the 1840 edition he's shown as Holdbrooke Davis & Co., men's mercers, 65 William St.

    (doesn't state which William St. i.e. north or south, but based on numbers I think probably south)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Coolnabacky1873


    Apologies Shane, my laziness precluded me from clicking your link! :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    ^^ you had me worried for a sec... thought it should be ok for most people :)

    link the 1840 entry for Holdbrooke in the Index.

    He's not mentioned in the street index for either William St.... so may have moved around the time the directory was being compiled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 gwd


    hi shanew and coolnabacky1873,thanks for your help, i think phibsboro is the area,i thought of des kelly carpet shop croos guns bridge lol.
    on a side note im looking for information on his father a william henry davis born late 1700s who was a lientennant in army,thanks again for your help gerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    going the opposite direction for a sec... there's a marriage of one of his daughters, Carolin in 1850, on IrishGenealogy.ie

    see : http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5f5c6b0581944

    confirm that this Davis family was likely Church of Ireland, and bride's father was a Merchant.

    p.s. do you know where Holbrooke was born/baptised ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 gwd


    shanew wrote: »
    going the opposite direction for a sec... there's a marriage of one of his daughters, Carolin in 1850, on IrishGenealogy.ie

    see : http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5f5c6b0581944

    confirm that this Davis family was likely Church of Ireland, and bride's father was a Merchant.

    p.s. do you know where Holbrooke was born/baptised ?


    yes shane i found that myself,its his daughter,shane holbrook was born in dublin 1804 and married twice,first wife unknown,second wife ann harwood glamorgan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    was wondering how you had his father's name....

    There are transcripts of quite a few military records on FindMyPast (UK), and Ancestry that might be worth checking for details of William - although there might be quite a few 'Davis' entries. (helps if you know regiment, or even some locations/postings for the person you are searching)

    For other military records you have to research in the National Archives (Kew, London)



    Shane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    think 1st wife was named Catherine... possible baptism of Caroline at St. Werburgh CofI in 1826

    see : http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/ef175e0226881


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,429 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Sorry to butt in but I just want to say thanks as yet again an unrelated thread has proved quite useful to me, specifically the link to Pettigrew & Oulton which confirms the address of Patrick Urquhart Thompson of 14 Upper Mecklenburgh Street which has opened up all sorts of leads for me!

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 gwd


    shanew wrote: »
    think 1st wife was named Catherine... possible baptism of Caroline at St. Werburgh CofI in 1826

    see : http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/ef175e0226881

    hi shane,thanks again for your help,i only knew of a holbrook born 1829 from the first marriage not any caroline but the name carololine comes up a few times in the family tree,my information about wiliam hennry davis comes from the same lady from england thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    ^^ scans from the 1834 and 1840 editions of Pettigrew & Oulton.

    http://www.swilson.info/roots/pettigrewoulton.php

    (The 1834 is the earliest street listing I've seen for Dublin city)


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