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Irish Passport for British Spouse

  • 22-03-2013 11:38am
    #1
    DublinWriter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭


    My wife's British and her UK passport is expiring soon.

    She wants to have an Irish passport.

    We've been married for more than three years, both living and working in Ireland.

    I've checked the websites of all the relevant bodies (DOJ and INIS) and I can't believe that it she'll have to first get a Certificate of Post Nuptial Citizenship by going through the whole Naturalisation route with INIS costing €175 for the app and a further whopping €950 for the ceremony.

    Am I missing something here, or is this really the procedure?


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  • #2
    hyperborean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    DublinWriter wrote: »
    My wife's British and her UK passport is expiring soon.

    She wants to have an Irish passport.

    We've been married for more than three years, both living and working in Ireland.

    I've checked the websites of all the relevant bodies (DOJ and INIS) and I can't believe that it she'll have to first get a Certificate of Post Nuptial Citizenship by going through the whole Naturalisation route with INIS costing €175 for the app and a further whopping €950 for the ceremony.

    Am I missing something here, or is this really the procedure?


    She is British, can she not get a british passport?


  • #3
    ABajaninCork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    hyperborean wrote: »
    She is British, can she not get a british passport?

    She could. But if you read the OP....
    DublinWriter wrote: »
    My wife's British and her UK passport is expiring soon.

    She wants to have an Irish passport.

    We've been married for more than three years, both living and working in Ireland.
    DublinWriter wrote: »
    I've checked the websites of all the relevant bodies (DOJ and INIS) and I can't believe that it she'll have to first get a Certificate of Post Nuptial Citizenship by going through the whole Naturalisation route with INIS costing €175 for the app and a further whopping €950 for the ceremony.

    Am I missing something here, or is this really the procedure?

    No, you're not. It is.


  • #4
    hyperborean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    She could. But if you read the OP....





    No, you're not. It is.

    I read the OP, I am just suprised that someone would think because you marry an irish person you get yourself a lovely Irish passport.

    If you want an Irish passport and do not qualify under one of the numerous automatic entitlements then its naturalisation and all the crap that goes with it.


  • #5
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    DublinWriter wrote: »
    My wife's British and her UK passport is expiring soon.

    She wants to have an Irish passport.

    We've been married for more than three years, both living and working in Ireland.

    I've checked the websites of all the relevant bodies (DOJ and INIS) and I can't believe that it she'll have to first get a Certificate of Post Nuptial Citizenship by going through the whole Naturalisation route with INIS costing €175 for the app and a further whopping €950 for the ceremony.

    Am I missing something here, or is this really the procedure?

    You are missing nothing, while your wife has the required time to APPLY for the honour of being granted the gift of Naturlisation of Ireland. Currently all she has is the right to apply, the minister may decided at his absolute discretion to grant or not irish Naturlisation. That process will take some time, I believe they are aiming to do application within 6 months.

    If your wife's passport is going to expire in a matter of months, it would be easier to get a British passport and of course cheaper than the Naturlisation process.

    BTW if the OP was applying for British Naturlisation the fee is £851 I believe all paid at the time of application, in ireland we break it up into an application fee and then if granted Naturlisation a further fee.


  • #6
    schemingbohemia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    This is hilarious, me want, me get.....it's not like choosing a fecking toothbrush!


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  • #7
    DublinWriter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Thanks for the info all...she's going to be sticking with the UK passport.


  • #8
    Dandelion6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    hyperborean wrote: »
    I read the OP, I am just suprised that someone would think because you marry an irish person you get yourself a lovely Irish passport.

    It used to be true. They got rid of the scheme sometime in the mid 2000s but until then OP's wife would indeed have been entitled to an Irish passport.


  • #9
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    Dandelion6 wrote: »
    It used to be true. They got rid of the scheme sometime in the mid 2000s but until then OP's wife would indeed have been entitled to an Irish passport.

    To be honest I thought you got it wrong, but I checked and you are indeed correct http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1956/en/act/pub/0026/sec0008.html#sec8

    Repealed in 2001 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2001/en/act/pub/0015/sec0004.html#sec4

    I did not know it was that easy till 2001.


  • #10
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,721 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    DublinWriter wrote: »
    My wife's British and her UK passport is expiring soon.

    She wants to have an Irish passport.

    We've been married for more than three years, both living and working in Ireland.

    I've checked the websites of all the relevant bodies (DOJ and INIS) and I can't believe that it she'll have to first get a Certificate of Post Nuptial Citizenship by going through the whole Naturalisation route with INIS costing €175 for the app and a further whopping €950 for the ceremony.

    Am I missing something here, or is this really the procedure?

    Yes, Only Irish Citizens can get an Irish Passport, so to get one your Wife (as does mine) needs to Naturalise and this costs €150 + €950 as you have noticed.

    The €950 fee is for a wife of an Irish Citizen, for a Widow, it is only €200, but I hope my wife never find this out :).


  • #11
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,713 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    She can't get an Irish passport without becoming an Irish citizen. This was always the rule. All that has changed is that becoming an Irish citizen is now a slightly bigger production than it used to be for someone in her circumstances.

    The change was made in 2005 to equalise the treatment of men and women in this regard.


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  • #12
    Dandelion6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    She can't get an Irish passport without becoming an Irish citizen. This was always the rule. All that has changed is that becoming an Irish citizen is now a slightly bigger production than it used to be for someone in her circumstances.

    The change was made in 2005 to equalise the treatment of men and women in this regard.

    The treatment of men and women was equalised in 1986. Between then and 2005 (when the legislative provision cited by Research Will came into effect) a spouse of either sex could avail of the post-nuptial scheme.


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