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Captain America Sequel The Winter Soldier

  • 22-03-2013 11:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭


    Robert Redford is now in talks to the join, cool if it happens

    Revenge actress Emily VanCamp is in to play Sharon Carter (Steve's love interest)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    And we're getting Falcon :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Falcon = Yay. Wonder are they going to have Redwing (In avian form or a mechanical version) with him.


    Emily VanCamp = Dead eyed wooden actress that can suck the life out of any scene imo. A blonde Kristen Stewart if you will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Emily VanCamp = Dead eyed wooden actress that can suck the life out of any scene imo. A blonde Kristen Stewart if you will.

    Out of this entire movie....she's the one I'm worried about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Emily VanCamp = Dead eyed wooden actress that can suck the life out of any scene imo. A blonde Kristen Stewart if you will.

    I think she is a great actress


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think she is a great actress

    If great acting is measures in an ability to express absolutely no emotion at any time then she may just be the greatest actress to ever grace the screen.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,158 ✭✭✭Arawn


    If great acting is measures in an ability to express absolutely no emotion at any time then she may just be the greatest actress to ever grace the screen.

    That'd be yer one from twilight


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Arawn wrote: »
    That'd be yer one from twilight

    To be fair to Stewart she showed a slight bit of emotion in Panic Room. It was fleeting and you'd miss it if you weren't paying attention but it was there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    To be fair to Stewart she showed a slight bit of emotion in Panic Room. It was fleeting and you'd miss it if you weren't paying attention but it was there.

    Surely nobody paid attention to Panic Room at all though.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,406 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I think Stewart gets an unfair rep because of twilight, she's quite good in a few of her other roles. Into the Wild & Adventureland mainly.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,752 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It's a shame unavoidable narrative complications mean we have to lose Hayley Atwell. Not only is she stunning, but I think she showed lots of promise as a more active take on the bog standard wartime love interest (although at the same time it's a shame we have to lose the WW2 at all). The first film mostly avoided the old damsel in distress tropes, which was welcome. Hopefully Portman's character in Thor 2 can pick up some of the slack.

    Although it is a little disturbing the Cap'n is going to shack up with another Carter. Keeping it in the family, ey?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    It's a shame unavoidable narrative complications mean we have to lose Hayley Atwell. Not only is she stunning, but I think she showed lots of promise as a more active take on the bog standard wartime love interest (although at the same time it's a shame we have to lose the WW2 at all). The first film mostly avoided the old damsel in distress tropes, which was welcome. Hopefully Portman's character in Thor 2 can pick up some of the slack.

    Although it is a little disturbing the Cap'n is going to shack up with another Carter. Keeping it in the family, ey?




    Staying faithful to the comics on that score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I am actually looking forward to this more than the original. I think the direction it was going to take was evident
    the minute Bucky fell off the train
    in TFA. Hopefully with The Winter Soldier in it they lean heavily on the Brubaker run and have heavy S.H.I.E.L.D involvement, and tie it into the current sh*tty economic situation. Would also like to see them end it with
    Bucky being neither The Winter Soldier, or a good guy but just disappearing after a fight with Captain America to come back in the third movie. Could even fit in a spin off movie with him in between the two Captain America movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,329 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1581283-georges-st-pierre-cast-as-villain-in-captain-america-winter-soldier
    Georges St-Pierre has his next assignment, and his opponent is none other than Captain America.

    The UFC's defending welterweight champion has signed on to appear in the next installment of the Marvel film franchise surrounding the stars-and-stripes superhero, titled Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

    The news of St-Pierre's casting was first reported by Latino Review and later confirmed by Sportsnet reporter Joe Ferraro.


    This won't be St-Pierre's first time in front of the camera, as he has been a part of a couple of straight-to-video films in the past, but his role in Captain America: The Winter Soldier will undoubtedly be his biggest starring gig to date.

    In the film set for release in April 2014, St-Pierre will play villain Batroc the Leaper, an infamous mercenary in the Captain America universe.

    The character, created by legendary Marvel Comics company head Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby, first appeared all the way back in 1966.

    Almost like the role was created for St-Pierre, Batroc the Leaper is a French martial artist who specializes in savate kickboxing. Although the character has no superpowers, Batroc has taken on Captain America several times. And at one point in history, he changed sides to become a hero, but it was a short-lived transition.


    Batroc the Leaper (photo courtesy of Marvel)
    The film Captain America: The Winter Soldier is based on the 2005 comic book of the same name written by Ed Brubaker in which the All-American hero is confronted by his former comrade, Bucky Barnes, who has been brainwashed and turned into a Soviet assassin code-named The Winter Soldier.

    Captain America: The Winter Soldier will be released in 2014, but filming is expected to begin in late April or early May, with filming sites primarily located in Cleveland and Los Angeles.

    St-Pierre joins an all-star cast, including Chris Evans as Steve Rogers/Captain America, Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Romanoff/The Black Widow and Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury.

    The first film in the franchise, Captain America: The First Avenger, grossed more than $368 million worldwide.

    As far as St-Pierre's time away from fighting to film the movie, it's expected that his character will be a secondary villain in the film, but he could be tied up for several weeks with commitments. St-Pierre could also be called back for reshoots, which happen quite often with a film the size of Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

    St-Pierre was already planning an extended vacation following his last fight against Nick Diaz at UFC 158, so with this film now in production, it's not likely he will return until fall 2013 for another fight in the Octagon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    2 hours of St-Pierre wrestling Cap down to the ground and holding him there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Makes sense to have Batroc as one of Cap's foes in the film. They have a long association in the comics, and he is not a super either.

    Would have preferred to have seen Crossbones brought in (given his links with Cap, Sharon Carter and the Red Skull in the comics), but Batroc could prove to be a very capable threat on a physical level as well and his comic links to the likes of Hawkeye/Black Widow could tie in with him being part of an Avengers film in the future.


    Georges St-Pierre looks physically right for the part of Batroc ( not sure if they will be using one of the moustace or beards the character often sported) and his day job should mean that he will be convincing in the fight scenes.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Makes sense to have Batroc as one of Cap's foes in the film. They have a long association in the comics, and he is not a super either.

    Would have preferred to have seen Crossbones brought in (given his links with Cap, Sharon Carter and the Red Skull in the comics), but Batroc could prove to be a very capable threat on a physical level as well and his comic links to the likes of Hawkeye/Black Widow could tie in with him being part of an Avengers film in the future.


    Georges St-Pierre looks physically right for the part of Batroc ( not sure if they will be using one of the moustace or beards the character often sported) and his day job should mean that he will be convincing in the fight scenes.

    Crossbones is in it. Being played by Frank Grillo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Crossbones is in it. Being played by Frank Grillo



    I managed to miss that. Grillo could be a good fit. Decent actor and has the right look.


    Crossbones and Batroc. That makes me happy. Only thing that would make me happier would be news that Van Camp was dropping out to take her horrible acting somewhere else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,910 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I thought GSP joining this film was a joke! Surely someone will want a shot at the belt and has to wait until he finishes his filming? Wonder what Dana thinks of it as he didn't want Rousey to do The Hunger Games 2.

    Avengers 2 seems so far away!

    Iron Man 3 releases April 26th, 2013,
    Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013,
    Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014,
    Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014 and
    The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    sheehy83 wrote: »

    Iron Man 3 releases April 26th, 2013,
    Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013,
    Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014,
    Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014 and
    The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015.
    I'm actually sort of surprised by Thor being released in November. I don't think any of the Avenger films to date have been released outside of the Summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    I'm actually sort of surprised by Thor being released in November. I don't think any of the Avenger films to date have been released outside of the Summer.


    Possibly avoiding being released at a similar time to a few of the big summer releases such as a certain DC superhero release in June.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Batroc is a fairly C-list villain to use though, no?....my main memory of him is Deadpool taking the p*ss out of him, and most recently Gambit taking the p*ss out of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Batroc is a fairly C-list villain to use though, no?....my main memory of him is Deadpool taking the p*ss out of him, and most recently Gambit taking the p*ss out of him.



    He has been used as everything from serious threat level to comedy villain level by Marvel.


    But in the comics he does have some storylines that tied in with Cap, Sharon Carter, Falcon and Hydra that had him as part of a serious threat to Cap, so given that Cap, Carter, and Falcon are in this, I would imagine that we could see some stuff inspired by those storylines.

    The inclusion of Crossbones adds another who has a long history with Cap, Careter, and Falcon, but who has a Red Skull link. He also has links with Winter Soldier in the comics. Might even see something that hints at a Death Of Captain America type storyline for the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Kess73 wrote: »
    He has been used as everything from serious threat level to comedy villain level by Marvel.


    But in the comics he does have some storylines that tied in with Cap, Sharon Carter, Falcon and Hydra that had him as part of a serious threat to Cap, so given that Cap, Carter, and Falcon are in this, I would imagine that we could see some stuff inspired by those storylines.

    The inclusion of Crossbones adds another who has a long history with Cap, Careter, and Falcon, but who has a Red Skull link. He also has links with Winter Soldier in the comics. Might even see something that hints at a Death Of Captain America type storyline for the future.

    Marvel have done a bit to make their crap villains credible over the past few years so hopefully they do it here. Wouldn't be surprised to see Sin included given her ties to Crossbones, and they are going to need a foil for Carter. Would also like to see a role for Taskmaster, perhaps as a trainer for The Winter Soldier.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    Concept art

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    Captain_America_Winter_Soldier_concept.jpg


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    New suit

    YTu73Tp.jpg

    No doubt copied from this one

    buckybarnesstyle.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    I wish it had the wings :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Doctor Strange


    Concept art
    vlcsnap-2013-04-02-18h05m26s177.png
    Oh god, getting "New Goblin" from Spider-Man 3 vibes off that :(


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    You guys know anything about the Jack Rollins character? Is he just some minor character?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Chavways


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    2 hours of St-Pierre wrestling Cap down to the ground and holding him there.

    Captain America 2: Lay n Pray


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    Avengers 2 seems so far away!

    Iron Man 3 releases April 26th, 2013,
    Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013,
    Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014,
    Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014 and
    The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015.

    If they keep filling the gap with exciting 'phase 2' movies we'll hardly notice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    I imagine Trank's Fantastic Four Movie will be in there too to fill the gap, even if it's not going to be MU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    like the arm !

    didnt think they'd keep the cable look of the winter soldier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Sarxos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Eh, what happeened? Scarlett Johansson isn't looking nearly as sultry as usual in that trailer!

    I'm out!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Looks fairly good.

    With all the special effects on show they're obviously banking on this making a serious impact at the box office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Glad they're exploring the landscape of modern day through the eyes of the 1940s.

    Don't care for
    Winter Soldier
    's look though. At least from the neck up. Got a hybrid of the Loki greasy hair and Spidey 3's New Goblin headgear going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Ridley wrote: »
    Glad they're exploring the landscape of modern day through the eyes of the 1940s.

    Don't care for
    Winter Soldier
    's look though. At least from the neck up. Got a hybrid of the Loki greasy hair and Spidey 3's New Goblin headgear going on.


    Pretty close to the comic version, or at least how the comic version looked when he first showed up.


    Winter_Soldier.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Are Black Widow and Captain America a couple in this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Pretty close to the comic version, or at least how the comic version looked when he first showed up.

    Not close enough!*

    *not a comic purist, honest


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭salacious crumb


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Are Black Widow and Captain America a couple in this?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Why does the bad guy look like he should be in a...... shudder.... "30 Seconds to Mars" video right at the end?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,752 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It's only a trailer, but that is being sold as extraordinarily generic action film, with its cold metallic colour palette and 'badass' action. What I liked about the first film - which was far, far from great, but solid enough - was its novel setting and old-fashioned adventure tone. That, given narrative developments, is not possible to directly replicate, but it would have been nice to see a more inventive take on the character. If a trailer is meant to inspire, this sadly had the opposite effect. But then I've already lost most faith in Marvel films, so this simply mightn't be for me.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The first Captain America had its flaws, but what I loved was its aesthetic and imagination; you could certainly see echoes of Joe Johnston's previous effort from that historical era, The Rocketeer (still love that movie more than is probably healthy btw). Captain America had a zip and old-school energy that made it endearing. In many respects, of all the preliminary Marvel movies (or 'Phase 1' as they want to call it), it was the one I enjoyed the most. Technically, cinematically, it wasn't the best film, but on a personal level I had the most fun.

    As mentioned, the sequel's trailer makes things feel awfully sterile and generic, with a bit too much brooding by half. Going by the dialogue and piecing the scenes together, it looks like it's aiming at an Enemy Within angle; Cap' is already an archaic idea in a modern world, so figures he might find himself fighting the very institutions he once have worked with. Either way, I can't say it has me excited tbh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Far more excited for GOTG than this. Both CA and Thor seem to have lost the charm that helped define their previous entries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    pixelburp wrote: »
    The first Captain America had its flaws, but what I loved was its aesthetic and imagination; you could certainly see echoes of Joe Johnston's previous effort from that historical era, The Rocketeer (still love that movie more than is probably healthy btw). Captain America had a zip and old-school energy that made it endearing. In many respects, of all the preliminary Marvel movies (or 'Phase 1' as they want to call it), it was the one I enjoyed the most. Technically, cinematically, it wasn't the best film, but on a personal level I had the most fun.

    As mentioned, the sequel's trailer makes things feel awfully sterile and generic, with a bit too much brooding by half. Going by the dialogue and piecing the scenes together, it looks like it's aiming at an Enemy Within angle; Cap' is already an archaic idea in a modern world, so figures he might find himself fighting the very institutions he once have worked with. Either way, I can't say it has me excited tbh...

    Same, I adore that film, it's due a rewatch soon. It's one of those films I never want to see remade, leave it alone, sure it's got horribly dated effects but the whole thing has a gee whizz charm to it it's impossible to not like it.

    I like the first Cap movie as well, it also had the best ending credits which should have been the opening credits that year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Didnt expect this to have so much of sheild in it which is welcome IMO.

    Looking forward to it

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    The trailer makes it look good, more grounded. We will see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭crybaby


    Otacon wrote: »
    Far more excited for GOTG than this. Both CA and Thor seem to have lost the charm that helped define their previous entries.

    Lost their charm? Films haven't even been released yet......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    crybaby wrote: »
    Lost their charm? Films haven't even been released yet......
    Otacon wrote: »
    Far more excited for GOTG than this. Both CA and Thor seem to have lost the charm that helped define their previous entries.

    Obviously I am basing this purely on the trailers so it is far from a final judgement.


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