Pat Rabbitte sacked by the public!

Sergeant

Bambi wrote: »

Did they appease you too? Just a weensy teensy bit? Its okay you can admit it, you were'nt the only victim of appeasement.

Do you have anything to contribute to the debate, or would you rather just engage in ad hominem attacks?

Why do you feel that Pat Rabbitte should be subjected to such abuse?

Dyr

Sergeant wrote: »

Do you have anything to contribute to the debate, or would you rather just engage in ad hominem attacks?

Why do you feel that Pat Rabbitte should be subjected to such abuse?

You assume its an ad hominem attack, I'm just pointing out when you're on about fianna fail bribing unions you somehow forget to mention them bribing every tax payer in the country with their budgets, including your good self no doubt. Funny dat.

I haven't watched the video so I dont know what abuse rabbite was given but I do know one thing the likes of rabbite responds to is when every time they stick their beak out in public there's a strong possibility that the public will stick their beak into them. Strongly worded letters to the times and facebook statuses don't cut it.

Guy:Incognito

Dwork wrote: »

I think it's great and we need far, far more of it. We are far too subservient to our so called "leaders". I find the silence and acceptance to be far more repugnant than an honest man vocally expressing his exasperation at the rotten standards of Politics. Nothing worse than a nation of humble lick-spittles. They need shouting at a hell of a lot more. "Highest standards of living" - pull the other one, it's got bells on. You've been to a hospital lately, right? You live in a fantasy world of government approval. Luckily, you're a member of a diminishing minority.

If a customer in your job dislikes the way you do it then comes across you on a night out, is it ok for them to shout at you in the manner of the video? Or is it only for other people in other jobs?

anncoates

Maybe a deal.

If I'm a politician, you can come over and abuse me when I'm having a pint or dinner but I can kick your head in and you don't run crying to the police or Internet.

Fair's fair.

Yitzhak Rabin

Just remembered this clip from 2010:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2sioK9Fcek

Still think that the ignoramus and his merry band of chanting and clapping buffoons that attacked Rabitte were fools.

But to be fair, Rabitte is no stranger to doing a bit of populist ranting.

Celly Smunt

He has his dinner disturbed,boo fucking hoo,if they waited for him to finish his meal would that have been ok then?.If they're there to represent the public then they should be prepared to be in interaction with the public,in the public,whether that is "rude" or not.

Dwork

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If a customer in your job dislikes the way you do it then comes across you on a night out, is it ok for them to shout at you in the manner of the video? Or is it only for other people in other jobs?

No idea, I've never sh4t all over peoples lives as a result of my inept handling of my work. If I had, I'd expect flak. And I'd deserve it.

Sergeant

pmcmahon wrote: »

He has his dinner disturbed,boo fucking hoo,if they waited for him to finish his meal would that have been ok then?.If they're there to represent the public then they should be prepared to be in interaction with the public,in the public,whether that is "rude" or not.

Would that extend to people camping outside his house? Why the hell would anyone become a politician and be subjected to such abuse? The same politicians that people feel should have their salaries cut.

Where does it stop? A bit of flagellation outside the Dáil of a Tuesday morning to appease the plain people of Ireland?

Dwork

Sergeant wrote: »

Would that extend to people camping outside his house? Why the hell would anyone become a politician and be subjected to such abuse? The same politicians that people feel should have their salaries cut.

Where does it stop? A bit of flagellation outside the Dáil of a Tuesday morning to appease the plain people of Ireland?

Probably stops when people feel they are doing a good job. Which might be a long while coming.

Guy:Incognito

Dwork wrote: »

No idea, I've never sh4t all over peoples lives as a result of my inept handling of my work. If I had, I'd expect flak. And I'd deserve it.

Bull **** you would. Youd be on here whinging about some ignorant **** that walked over in the middle of your dinner and started screaming at you.

If you have a complaint in a shop or a restaurant do you go straight to shouting at the person working there btw?

Dwork wrote: »

Probably stops when people feel they are doing a good job. Which might be a long while coming.

No matter what you do, there will always be some headcase that will complain. Work in retail for a while and you'll see that. So with that in mind, you feel its ok to abuse people in public about their jobs?

You cant please all of the people all of the time , mostly because some of the people are ****ing crazy.

rolliepoley

I'd say his lunch money allowance must be huge.

Celly Smunt

Sergeant wrote: »

Would that extend to people camping outside his house? Why the hell would anyone become a politician and be subjected to such abuse? The same politicians that people feel should have their salaries cut.

Where does it stop? A bit of flagellation outside the Dáil of a Tuesday morning to appease the plain people of Ireland?

Well i'm not one to hop on the sinn fein/ULA catagory of propagandist ideology that haunts Ireland today,i wouldn't agree with the camping nor surprisingly the cut to pay.What i would like to see however would be some coherent communication between politicians and the public in a decent forum.And what better forum than in public.There is no point in politicians coming out of their hovels to doorsteps the run up to elections only to disappear for four years after.If this is the only way to hammer some sort of conscience into the representiatives today then so be it.Their policies impede on EVERYONE everyday,it's unjustified to be coy when it comes impeding on the people who have put themselves on public display to introduce the legislation that effect the majority.

Yitzhak Rabin

pmcmahon wrote: »

Well i'm not one to hop on the sinn fein/ULA catagory of propagandist ideology that haunts Ireland today,i wouldn't agree with the camping nor surprisingly the cut to pay.What i would like to see however would be some coherent communication between politicians and the public in a decent forum.And what better forum than in public.There is no point in politicians coming out of their hovels to doorsteps the run up to elections only to disappear for four years after.If this is the only way to hammer some sort of conscience into the representiatives today then so be it.Their policies impede on EVERYONE everyday,it's unjustified to be coy when it comes impeding on the people who have put themselves on public display to introduce the legislation that effect the majority.

You can do that though.

Clearly the gobsh1te in this video setup this whole scenario hoping for a reaction from Rabitte, hence why he brought a camera man and a bunch of yokels to cheer him on.

I've spoken to ministers in the past. Its very easy to do. I wouldn't interupt their meal, but when he had finished, you simply approach, without a hooting entourage, and say "Excuse me minister, do you mind if I take just two minutes of your time, I know you're busy, but there is something which is very important to me and I'd like you to hear it."

8/10 they'll be happy to listen to you. On some occassions they may not have the time, but they will almost always ask you to follow up with your query, and having met you in person, will be much more likely to respond.

But at the end of the day, thats not what this man and his mates wanted. They didn't want to talk at the minister. They wanted to verbally abuse him, heckell him, and provoke some kind of reaction. They were delighted that the man was arrested, so they could start on with the "peeellleeeeessee bruuueeetallliity, gard, dats bleeedin peeeleeessse bruuueetalllity so it is".

It was a staged stunt that they wanted to share on their social networks and get a bit of kudos from their fellow socialists and shinners. Its was far from an attempt to communicate with a minister.

Kettleson

The "protester" lost it IMO when he started ranting on about Connolly and the English running "our country". I though he was sober up until the. He was clearly a drunken idiot.

AlekSmart

gandalf wrote: »

Pretty miserable ranting at the man when he is having a meal.

I have a serious problem with any member of FF, especially those that were in power for the 14 years that led to our downfall but I would not have the ignorance to butt in on them having a meal to rant at them.

All events like this will do is to ensure politicians separate themselves fully from situations where they can meet the public and create a bigger gap between "us and them". Reading the comments on that clip is also quite sad, the mob mentality being displayed is worrying and the fact that most of the ire is being directed at the current government shows how short term some peoples memories are. The current situation we are in was created by the bad policies of the FF led governments and their PD & Green lackeys. I reckon most of those who commented will probably vote for FF or FF-lite (SF) if an election happened tomorrow.

FF,and whichever colour lackeys it managed to accquire along the way,did not suddenly materialize in Leinster house one fine day...they were elected continually,in free and fair elections over virtually half-a-century of democratic practice.

There were'nt too many who raised any questions about the removal of Domestic Rates or the £5 Road Tax back in the 70's nor did anybody try to disrupt Charlie McCreevy's nosebag after he dropped the SSIA lunacy on top of a bewildered Dept of Finance.

Year after year,we,de peeple, rubbed our hands with glee as successive Ministers for Finance opened Budget Day speeches with the words "I propose to remove x,000 low income earners from the tax-net"....

All historical in context now for sure,but still illustrative of the fact that WE elected these people and had the ability every 4 years to remove them,which we did not take..why?..because their policies reflected accurately what we desired..."More money for a Shorter Working Week"..."Beer and Crisps for everybody"..."Tax the Rich".

Did nobody pause to wonder what would happen after Ministers for Finance had worked their way up along the ranks of the Lower Paid,until there was nobody left earning enough to pay any tax at all ?

And now,we are equally supposed to regard ignorant buffoonery such as this loo-lah making an eejit of himself for the camera,as being up there with the Rights of Man...gimme a break

FoxyVixen

Mis-read the title as "Pet Rabbit attacked the public" :rolleyes:

Had a godzilla rabid bunny rabbit causing all sorts of crazy sh!t pictured in my head.

Sorely disappointed after reading the first post

jank

Thats the problem right there with Ireland, its not the politicians, its the electorate.

Banjo String

Sergeant wrote: »

Why the hell would anyone become a politician and be subjected to such abuse?
?

I'm sure the salary and expenses, coupled with the generous holidays, and subsidised bar attracts a few to that particular career choice.

kowloon

omahaid wrote: »

Does Pat know he's sacked? He still seems to be turning up for work. Or is this a Milton type situation?

They've given Pat an office in the basement. It's usually best to just let these things fizzle out.

Dyr

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

It was a staged stunt that they wanted to share on their social networks and get a bit of kudos from their fellow socialists and shinners.

aaand with that body swerve into a magical fantasy land of conjecture we get to your own agenda

donegal_road

its like a scene from Killnaskully, 2 minutes was enough for me

Cathyht

jank wrote: »

Thats the problem right there with Ireland, its not the politicians, its the electorate.

The electorate did the best they could with what raw material was on offer on the ballot paper. The electorate did not get the Banks to create chaos and the minority to squander billions. Well, over 98% of the electorate are not to blame.
The people in power, those wealthy and ruling are the problem. The electorate PAY for the problem, but did not cause it. Imagine the outcry if the electorate had said: I will not vote for Any of these mugs, they are useless. THEN the electorate would be accused of being Apathetic, Disrespectful of their voting right which men and women died for them to have.
Get THIS: the electorate are NOT to blame for the world financial crises, greedy pigs in the banks, Ministers claiming their salary, expenses, sitting on paid Boards, drawing more than 1 pension, the Dail practically empty the few working days its open, nor billions of tax being wasted on people who never paid tax in this country. - This is a non exhaustive list. We can easily find who has been fumbling in the greasy till. The Ministers, their Advisors, top Civil Servants and Semi State employees, Directors of corrupt Banks, the perpetrators and benefactors of tribunals, illegal claims in social welfare, black market.

Cathyht

Cathyht wrote: »

The electorate did the best they could with what raw material was on offer on the ballot paper. The electorate did not get the Banks to create chaos and the minority to squander billions. Well, over 98% of the electorate are not to blame.
The people in power, those wealthy and ruling are the problem. The electorate PAY for the problem, but did not cause it. Imagine the outcry if the electorate had said: I will not vote for Any of these mugs, they are useless. THEN the electorate would be accused of being Apathetic, Disrespectful of their voting right which men and women died for them to have.
Get THIS: the electorate are NOT to blame for the world financial crises, greedy pigs in the banks, Ministers claiming their salary, expenses, sitting on paid Boards, drawing more than 1 pension, the Dail practically empty the few working days its open, nor billions of tax being wasted on people who never paid tax in this country. - This is a non exhaustive list. We can easily find who has been fumbling in the greasy till. The Ministers, their Advisors, top Civil Servants and Semi State employees, Directors of corrupt Banks, the perpetrators and benefactors of tribunals, illegal claims in social welfare, black market.

And Fat Rabbitte had huge contempt for that man, he did not care 1 jot. Do u think any French Minster would get away with treating one of their protesting nationals like that man was treated. Remember we are not a fascist country. That Rabbitte is dining at our expense, he obviously dines not wisely but too well. Unlike a lot of Irish children under the breadline who are missing meals.

Yitzhak Rabin

Bambi wrote: »

aaand with that body swerve into a magical fantasy land of conjecture we get to your own agenda

What agenda would that be??

That I don't like people who are full of bile and bluster? People who have all the questions and none of the answers? That I'm not a fan of brash loud-mouths with no manners?

Guilty as charged.

Smidge

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

What agenda would that be??

That I don't like people who are full of bile and bluster? People who have all the questions and none of the answers? That I'm not a fan of brash loud-mouths with no manners?

Guilty as charged.

Not a fan of the government so?
You also left out lying, cheating, treasonous miscreants off that I reckon;)

Dyr

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

What agenda would that be??

That I don't like people who are full of bile and bluster? People who have all the questions and none of the answers? That I'm not a fan of brash loud-mouths with no manners?

Guilty as charged.

Hmm..lets see.

Blames Pat Rabbite having his nosebag interrupted on shinners and socialists, has no idea if this lot were either. Wants to pretend that anyone who's up in arms right now with the gubberment and their various charges are either sinn feiners or lefties when the majority are neither.

That agenda