The Sagan Thread

ZiabR · 15-07-2014 9:27am

death1234567 wrote: »

He is trying to look like Wolverine. He has wolverine eye's on his helmet as well.

Yup, not to mention on the bike top tube aswell.

dastardly00 · 17-07-2014 10:38pm

His bike:

The helmet:

ZiabR · 18-07-2014 7:58am

Don't forget the Hair!

Junior · 19-07-2014 9:58am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYP14j993uQ

This new humble, quiet sagan is a nice lad eh ?

Icyseanfitz · 19-07-2014 11:50am

how can you not love him

friendbot · 04-11-2014 4:43am

Yeah screw Peter Sagan, how dare he be young and have fun!
I think he's awesome

dastardly00 · 15-11-2014 10:04pm

2014 highlights video of Sagan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHM6JtEdHp8

MPFG · 10-02-2015 10:31pm

So what do we predict for Peter Sagan in 2015 ...How many monuments will he win ???
Oleg Tonkov is looking for 2 or 3 and will be dissapointed otherwise but won't kill him :eek: (the truth in mirth ?)

I suppose if you pay £ 3 million + for someone you do expect the goods....

Its hard to see Sagan wining 2/3 monuments when you see how strong Ettix Quickstep are and Cancelara ....Stannard, Thomas & Wiggins, and I think John Degenkolb looks incredible
Also Kristoff , Haussler Van Avermaet, Boom, Van Summeran, EBH (in the MTN team that are looking to win a classic and are going to dissrupt the status quo) ??

So many good riders...Its hard to guarantee wins these days..alot of pressure on young shoulders ??

Brian? · 11-02-2015 12:33pm

MPFG wrote: »

So what do we predict for Peter Sagan in 2015 ...How many monuments will he win ???
Oleg Tonkov is looking for 2 or 3 and will be dissapointed otherwise but won't kill him :eek: (the truth in mirth ?)

I suppose if you pay £ 3 million + for someone you do expect the goods....

Its hard to see Sagan wining 2/3 monuments when you see how strong Ettix Quickstep are and Cancelara ....Stannard, Thomas & Wiggins, and I think John Degenkolb looks incredible
Also Kristoff , Haussler Van Avermaet, Boom, Van Summeran, EBH (in the MTN team that are looking to win a classic and are going to dissrupt the status quo) ??

So many good riders...Its hard to guarantee wins these days..alot of pressure on young shoulders ??

I predict another season of nearlys in the monuments. He's still only a young lad though, so it's not the end of the world for him.

I'd like to see him win a few though.

death1234567 · 11-02-2015 12:35pm

Brian? wrote: »

I predict another season of nearlys in the monuments.

Milan San Remo might suit him but other than that I don't see him doing too much.

Brian? · 11-02-2015 12:42pm

death1234567 wrote: »

Milan San Remo might suit him but other than that I don't see him doing too much.

He is capable of winning any of the monuments in his career, IMO. LBL and GdL may be beyond his reach right now, but if he sheds weight and targets them he has the ability.

This season his best chance is MSR, followed by the Tour of Flanders and Pari-Roubaix. If Tinkoff-Saxo can burn off the sprinters in MSR he stands an excellent chance.

Funny, looking back at the history of the monuments, it amazes me that Kelly never won the Tour of Flanders.

Junior · 11-02-2015 12:58pm

MPFG wrote: »

EBH (in the MTN team that are looking to win a classic and are going to dissrupt the status quo) ??

MTN already disrupted the status quo when Ciolek won MSR two seasons ago.

To be honest the classics are now a numbers game, you have to have men in breaks, you have to have men protecting your #1 rider so that they arrive at the business end of the race without having wasted any effort. Sagan has the ability to follow Cancellara, Boonen etc but he hasn't the team to protect him and his reserves - look at the way Cancellara just motored away from him at the business end of Flanders last year.

The only upside for this season for him is that he's had his horrible bike position sorted out and he's got some people round him that have done well in classics before so he will learn more. Reckon he'll pick up a semi classic or two this season but no monument.

happytramp · 11-02-2015 1:36pm

Without wanting to seem to harsh on an extremely talented rider. His last couple of seasons he hasn't displayed the same level of dominance that he did in 2011/12. If I didn't know any better i'd say he's lost a little off his top end speed.

Chips Lovell · 11-02-2015 1:40pm

That's normal. A lot of the great classics riders started out as top bunch sprinters before losing a little finishing speed. Boonen was the same.

happytramp · 11-02-2015 1:49pm

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

That's normal. A lot of the great classics riders started out as top bunch sprinters before losing a little finishing speed. Boonen was the same.

Sean Kelly too. I see Sagan setting a green Jersey record but Id love to see him rack up a couple of monument wins. hopefully this is the season.

death1234567 · 11-02-2015 2:22pm

Brian? wrote: »

it amazes me that Kelly never won the Tour of Flanders.

He must have got the calculation wrong.

MPFG · 11-02-2015 3:33pm

Brian? wrote: »

I predict another season of nearlys in the monuments. He's still only a young lad though, so it's not the end of the world for him.

I'd like to see him win a few though.

Maybe not the end of the world but wouldn't like to be in his shoes with Tinkov on your case ...If he doesn't he (and we) will hear about it

pelevin · 11-02-2015 3:50pm

Junior wrote: »

MTN already disrupted the status quo when Ciolek won MSR two seasons ago.

To be honest the classics are now a numbers game, you have to have men in breaks, you have to have men protecting your #1 rider so that they arrive at the business end of the race without having wasted any effort. Sagan has the ability to follow Cancellara, Boonen etc but he hasn't the team to protect him and his reserves - look at the way Cancellara just motored away from him at the business end of Flanders last year.

The only upside for this season for him is that he's had his horrible bike position sorted out and he's got some people round him that have done well in classics before so he will learn more. Reckon he'll pick up a semi classic or two this season but no monument.

Not to dispute the obvious advantage of strength in numbers, but over the last couple of seasons has Cancellara had all that much of a team around him compared to Sagan's situation with Cannondale?

Junior · 11-02-2015 10:30pm

pelevin wrote: »

Not to dispute the obvious advantage of strength in numbers, but over the last couple of seasons has Cancellara had all that much of a team around him compared to Sagan's situation with Cannondale?

Yeah he had, I'm sure it was last years Flanders or the year before Trek hit the front on a couple of sections and destroyed the bunch. I think Dirk Demol said the win was a great team victory - Cancellara had 4 riders working hard for him that day if I remember correctly.

buffalo · 13-07-2015 10:33am

RobFowl · 13-07-2015 11:40am

happytramp wrote: »

Without wanting to seem to harsh on an extremely talented rider. His last couple of seasons he hasn't displayed the same level of dominance that he did in 2011/12. If I didn't know any better i'd say he's lost a little off his top end speed.

Thats what was said about Kellly after he went from Flandria to Splendor...
Also Kelly didn't win his first classic until he was 27.

Sagan is doing very nicely thank you very much.....

buffalo · 01-08-2015 4:43pm

http://giant.gfycat.com/FreeDirectInchworm.gif

theflamingpig · 02-08-2015 9:54pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7sGrE5s7jw

oops!

retalivity · 02-08-2015 10:08pm

That gif has completely destroyed my computer/connection

dastardly00 · 04-08-2015 11:22am

theflamingpig wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7sGrE5s7jw

oops!

I suppose it was inevitable that he was going to fall off at some point!

at1withmyself · 12-10-2015 9:01pm

Can't link as I'm on the phone but for anyone who missed Sundays finally of the Abu Dhabi Tour, the route covered laps of the F1 circuit and Sagan took advantage of the pit lane stopping for a bike change. Can't help but to love the fun he brings to the sport!

cython · 12-10-2015 9:27pm

at1withmyself wrote: »

Can't link as I'm on the phone but for anyone who missed Sundays finally of the Abu Dhabi Tour, the route covered laps of the F1 circuit and Sagan took advantage of the pit lane stopping for a bike change. Can't help but to love the fun he brings to the sport!