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Restoration for SmokeySkelton

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  • 28-03-2013 6:48pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭


    With regard to the razors, I'm in no hurry, hold onto them until you have time.

    Well, that was back in December 2011. :o Procrastination is my downfall.

    TheJims thread seemed to motivate me so let's get these guys unpinned and restored.

    Smokey had followed some bad advice and tried soaking these in Milton. Bad idea.

    Pics here http://s317.photobucket.com/user/SmithfieldResi/library/Smokey%20Restoration

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Unpinning done without too much drama. About 30 mins for two razors ain't bad, rushing depining causes broken scales as I have learnt to my cost. These two are now salvageable.

    http://s317.photobucket.com/user/SmithfieldResi/story/6391#

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    I was actually tempted to see if you'd polish two of my razors, because I'm a lazy bastard, but I think I'll get to them within the 16 months it might take you to get to them :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    hitemfrank wrote: »
    I was actually tempted to see if you'd polish two of my razors, because I'm a lazy bastard, but I think I'll get to them within the 16 months it might take you to get to them :D

    You don't want to tackle the list of things I have done since I got these. Emigrating is a busy business :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    24 hours in the tumbler. Still some staining.

    DSCN1388.jpg

    We also now can see CAREVE on our mystery razor - lack of country puts this before 1890, but the maker was Carl Abr. Everts, Solingen, Burgstrasse 100 in 1922, Burgstrasse 60 in 1939, Neuenhoferstrasse 111 in 1986. Brand name: 'Careve'. Open-blade razor maker.

    http://www.archivingindustry.com/cutlers&toolmakers/razormakers.htm

    Company is still in business. Sort of...

    http://www.kreuzbube.de/

    I'm puzzled by the lack of country as the foundation date for the company is is Carl Everts GmbH & Co. KG - 1897 Which means by law the razor should have said Germany as the manufacturers country.

    The razor itself looks a bit more 1920s than 1890s :confused:


    Back to the tumbler!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Some more info.

    CAREVE

    Carl Abraham EVErts :D

    Guide to Cutlers marks here
    http://www.readbag.com/archivingindustry-cutlerstoolmakers-cutlermarks-1


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I think we are about done with the tumbler for now, staining still evident on the CAREVE, but an improvement on the Taylor's 1000. I'm a little worried about potential rotten steel on the edge of that 1000 too.

    DSCN1391.jpg

    Next step - sanding.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    It's going to take a bit of time to get to useable steel on the Taylors 1000.


    I actually like the design the Milton has left on the Careve....


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    hitemfrank wrote: »
    It's going to take a bit of time to get to useable steel on the Taylors 1000.


    I actually like the design the Milton has left on the Careve....

    I think I might have to bring that 1000 to the stones first, I'm worried about this patch of pitting.

    DSCN1392.jpg?t=1364861019


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Just did some work on the CAREVE. One side with the course white, the other with the medium blue.

    The white works fast, but is scratchy - hence the satin look. The blue is not removing the outside of the satin 'bubbles' which is weird andI have never seen before, it is almost like the Milton 'etched' the blade. What the hell is in that stuff?

    I may have to go to the white level of polishing on both sides.

    Pics here

    http://s317.photobucket.com/user/SmithfieldResi/story/6391


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    MadsL wrote: »
    What the hell is in that stuff?
    Sodium hypochlorite. I'd imagine it has etched the blade alright.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Smokeyskelton


    Pretty weird that a liquid for sterilising babies' bottles can do that to metal. :eek:

    The razors have a way to go yet, but still look at lot better than they did in the first photo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    It would be due to the carbon in the steel most likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Sodium hypochlorite solutions (20%) are corrosive to brass (aluminium, naval and silicon) bronze, carbon steel, cast iron, Hastelloy, Inconel, nickel, stainless steels (types 304/347, 316 and 400 series) and silicon copper.

    Wow. Nasty Milton nasty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Apologies for no updates - I have been insanely busy tricking out my truck for the festival season. Off to Coachella tomorrow; the blades are not forgotten, but resting for the moment.

    Sorry guys, back in a week.


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