North Korea v USA Mega Merge.

chakotha

Deleted User wrote: »

Can't see why he would want to "liberate" his country as in doing so he'll almost certainly lose the absolute power he currently enjoys!

Maybe he doesn't want the power? Bet he feels it's a bit of a dose. Defect thoughts big time. And the whole country too.

Gatling

chakotha wrote: »

Maybe he doesn't want the power? Bet he feels it's a bit of a dose. Defect thoughts big time. And the whole country too.

Maybe he realised what a **** hole stuck in the 1950's country he inherited and has decided feck this for a games of card in His best (Dublin accent )
How do I get out of this
Ohhhhhhh yeah say I'm going to nuke america and south Korea and Japan ,
And hope they put him out of his misery

chakotha

Can't see why he would want to "liberate" his country as in doing so he'll almost certainly lose the absolute power he currently enjoys!

Maybe he realised what a **** hole stuck in the 1950's country he inherited and has decided feck this for a games of card in His best (Dublin accent )
How do I get out of this

It will be interesting to see because it's hard to see where they're coming from!

Tabnabs

I've absolutely no idea how sound this information is:

Friday, April 12, the US raised its nuclear alert status to DEFCON 3, Condition Yellow (out of 5 levels), stating “There are currently no imminent nuclear threats against the United States at this time, however the situation is considered fluid and can change rapidly.” Many believe that North Korea will launch their test missile on or about April 15. Japan has instructed its armed forces to shoot down any North Korean missile that heads toward its territory.

http://www.debka.com/article/22893/US-raises-nuclear-alert-to-DEFCON-3-China-mobilizes-masses-troops-on-North-Korean-border

Latchy

RidleyRider wrote: »

Well I'm quoting someone so I don't really care :pac:

The boy who cried wolf reference was about Kim not you .

W.Shakes-Beer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/12/us-japan-quake-idUSBRE93B13Q20130412


Nothing unusual by Japanese standards.

True!

Myself and my OH woke to a shaking bed at half 5 this morning, and not for the good reason :P

Dublin Red Devil

Nothing is going to happen with this situation. Nobody has anything to gain

paddy147

Did Fatty Head not have his Wheatabix then this morning??

paddy147

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Nothing is going to happen with this situation. Nobody has anything to gain

Getting Maggie Thatcher off the main news headlines isnt something to gain then,no???:pac::D

Hitchens

paddy147 wrote: »

Getting Maggie Thatcher off the main news headlines isnt something to gain then,no???:pac::D

Mags would have loved young Un :pac:

paddy147

Hitchens wrote: »

Mags would have loved young Un :pac:

That just gives me the shivvers.....:pac:


Imagine what the love child would look like?????:eek::pac:

Duggy747

paddy147 wrote: »

That just gives me the shivvers.....:pac:


Imagine what the love child would look like?????:eek::pac:

Eurgh...

Hitchens

Duggy747 wrote: »

Eurgh...

ah here.......:D

Solair

Seems the Chinese and Americans are now working together to build some kind of dialogue process with North Korea to dial down the tensions:

China and the US have vowed to work together to persuade North Korea to give up its nuclear programme and to settle tensions through dialogue.

A Chinese statement issued during a visit by US Secretary of State John Kerry said the nuclear issue was the "shared responsibility of all parties".

Mr Kerry said the two sides must decide "very quickly" how to proceed.

North Korea has recently threatened nuclear attacks, and is feared to be preparing a missile launch.

More : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22131316

Seems Beijing's getting sick and tired of Pyongyang's threats to its neighbours.

paddy147

Duggy747 wrote: »

Eurgh...

Not bad actually.....:pac::D

Cantona's Collars

Panorama special, North Korea Undercover on BBC at 8.30pm. Monday.

Gatling

zerks wrote: »

Panorama special, North Korea Undercover on BBC at 8.30pm. Monday.

7 hours without any post I was actually worried there

Cantona's Collars

Gatling wrote: »

7 hours without any post I was actually worried there

The silence from NK is actually more worrying than them spouting war cries.

Gatling

zerks wrote: »

The silence from NK is actually more worrying than them spouting war cries.

Its weird we've had Daily threats for over 2 weeks now

Silence is never good

Maybe Monday might bring something

My name is URL

Gatling wrote: »

Its weird we've had Daily treats for over 2 weeks now

Silence is never good

Maybe Monday might bring something

I really hope that was intentional, because it perfectly sums up how the media have been dealing with the whole thing.. repeating the rhetoric and providing the fat for the masses to chew on.

Gatling

My name is URL wrote: »

I really hope that was intentional, because it perfectly sums up how the media have been dealing with the whole thing.. repeating the rhetoric and providing the fat for the masses to chew on.

Doooooh just actually copped that

Solair

It's their dead (but still technically in office) president's birthday on Monday which is what has me wondering if something's going to go off.

Quite an odd setup they have, he's the "Eternal President of the Republic" which is an oxymoron as it's effectively making him a god/monarch, something that's completely contrary to the definition of a republic.

zerks

zerks wrote: »

Panorama special, North Korea Undercover on BBC at 8.30pm. Monday.

I don't think that Panorama will be aired. There are some fears that showing it could also endanger the students that were involved in the filming. Forged documents to get them into Korea et al. BBC may be in a bit of trouble again.

Matt Simis

Solair wrote: »

Quite an odd setup they have, he's the "Eternal President of the Republic" which is an oxymoron as it's effectively making him a god/monarch, something that's completely contrary to the definition of a republic.

Well that would be the DPRK in a nutshell then wouldnt it?

A republic is a form of government in which the country is considered a "public matter" (Latin: res publica), not the private concern or property of the rulers, and where offices of state are subsequently directly or indirectly elected or appointed rather than inherited.

Busted Flat.

With all this talk of democracy, and the US trying to enforce their version of it. One thing that puzzles me is the people, yes they are people held in degrading conditions, in the little place the US has control of in Cuba, are being forced feed over their hunger strike. 80% of these internees are free to go, they have committed no crime. Where is democracy, freedom, and the right to life. Is it for other countries to obey the rules, or is the US immune to the constrains they put on others.

Matt Simis

Busted Flat. wrote: »

With all this talk of democracy, and the US trying to enforce their version of it. One thing that puzzles me is the people, yes they are people held in degrading conditions, in the little place the US has control of in Cuba, are being forced feed over their hunger strike. 80% of these internees are free to go, they have committed no crime. Where is democracy, freedom, and the right to life. Is it for other countries to obey the rules, or is the US immune to the constrains they put on others.

Doesnt seem to have any relevance to thread...

Gatling

Busted Flat. wrote: »

they have committed no crime. Where is democracy, freedom, and the right to life. Is it for other countries to obey the rules, or is the US immune to the constrains they put on others.

Oh not more of this

They were all illegal combatants ie terrorist ,jihadis,extremely dangerous people ,of course there all innocent ,
Wonder why no countries are stepping forward opening there arms welcoming these people ,

Korea isn't the US or Gitmo

Busted Flat.

Matt Simis wrote: »

Doesnt seem to have any relevance to thread...

IMO if you take the high moral ground you must show an example of what it means to live in a free society. Bradley Manning would not be a good example of the free world.

nocoverart

Matt Simis wrote: »

Doesnt seem to have any relevance to thread...

Hi! I paused my ad-block tonight and am astonished by how many ads are on the internet these days.

Busted Flat.

Gatling wrote: »

Oh not more of this

They were all illegal combatants ie terrorist ,jihadis,extremely dangerous people ,of course there all innocent ,
Wonder why no countries are stepping forward opening there arms welcoming these people ,

Korea isn't the US or Gitmo

Terrorist one day, leaders another day, Look at what is happening in Afghanistan, the enemy is part of discussions as to the future of the country that the invaders wanted to expel.
Life moves on, the guys that want to hold on to the prison in Cuba, are only protecting their back.

Gatling

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I don't think that Panorama will be aired. There are some fears that showing it could also endanger the students that were involved in the filming. Forged documents to get them into Korea et al. BBC may be in a bit of trouble again.

BBC have stated the broadcast will go ahead as planned

Strawberry Milkshake

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I don't think that Panorama will be aired. There are some fears that showing it could also endanger the students that were involved in the filming. Forged documents to get them into Korea et al. BBC may be in a bit of trouble again.

LSE upset about undercover student.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22140716
The London School of Economics has demanded the BBC withdraw Monday's Panorama programme about North Korea.
It said Panorama reporter John Sweeney posed as one of its PhD students on a university society trip in order to film undercover in the country.
The BBC said the students were told a journalist was among the group and warned of the risks.
But LSE said students were "not given enough information to enable informed consent" and were "endangered".

Solair

This is always a big issue. Many other journalists have gone in as tourists with tour groups and probably as students too.

You can be sure that plenty of security agency operatives have posed as legitimate visitors too.

There's always an inherent risk that someone in your party isn't who they say they are if you are visiting a paranoid dictatorship.

It's a hard one to call to be honest. The BBC could do a lot to expose what's going on in North Korea in terms of the humanitarian tragedy that it is and perhaps it's coverage might speed up reforms.

Does that public good angle outweigh the ongoing student trips?

Did they really put the students in any more danger than they already were in? It's possibly the regime could have taken a notion they were spying at any time.

It's a tough call but I'm sure the BBC will get beaten up over it as per usual.

There should have ideally been informed consent though for the group of students. It's an ethical nightmare for a journalist though as you'd need to sneak in somehow. It's entirely impossible to just roll up and say "hey I'd like to do a documentary On your reeducation camps"

Undercover work like this can improve the lives of millions of people. It tends to keep crazy regimes on their toes.

Sonics2k

Solair wrote: »

It's their dead (but still technically in office) president's birthday on Monday which is what has me wondering if something's going to go off.

Quite an odd setup they have, he's the "Eternal President of the Republic" which is an oxymoron as it's effectively making him a god/monarch, something that's completely contrary to the definition of a republic.

You must be new to the whole North Korea thing, right?

Solair

Sonics2k wrote: »

You must be new to the whole North Korea thing, right?

I don't get your point. Are you new to bulletin boards?

Sonics2k

Solair wrote: »

I don't get your point. Are you new to bulletin boards?

North Korea only claims itself as a Republic, but it's the farthest thing from it.

And yes, they do push the view that Grandaddy Kim is a deity.

paddy147

Is he going to fire the fcuking missle or what???

If he doesnt then hes just shown "his people" thats hes an absolute bullsh1tter and weak.

stevedublin

paddy147 wrote: »

If he doesnt then hes just shown "his people" thats hes an absolute bullsh1tter and weak.

this is why I think he will fire a missile, though probably into the sea/not a land target.
Question is, would US or Japan shoot it down and how would NK react to that?

JJayoo

paddy147 wrote: »

Is he going to fire the fcuking missle or what???

If he doesnt then hes just shown "his people" thats hes an absolute bullsh1tter and weak.

"His people" only see and hear what the government decides to show them. You can be sure that the people of North Korea think the rest of the world is trying to attack North Korea and that the mighty North has put them all in their place.

ScumLord

paddy147 wrote: »

If he doesnt then hes just shown "his people" thats hes an absolute bullsh1tter and weak.

He can just say they did fire the missile and the rest of the world is in ruins and no one in N.Korea would be any the wiser.

Solair

ScumLord wrote: »

He can just say they did fire the missile and the rest of the world is in ruins and no one in N.Korea would be any the wiser.

More likely he'll come out with the story that he's somehow threatened the rest of the world into submission with the overwhelming firepower of their new rocket or whatever.

Complete and utter b/s but, they don't know the difference as they've absolutely no other source of information.

North Korea's access to international media would make China look like a bastion of freedom of speech.

Opening up access to information into NK is one thing that would probably bring the regime down very fast. They need to start getting TVs and satellite dishes to mysteriously slip over the border in much larger quantities.
Although, looking at the night-time light map, it doesn't seem like they've very much electricity to run these things on.

Conmaicne Mara

This is a bit like watching Season 2 of The Walking Dead, dragging on a bit now.

Gatling

1 hour 7 mins to April 15

Come on Kim

Push the Button

Banjo String

Gatling wrote: »

1 hour 7 mins to April 15

Come on Kim

Push the Button

It's already been 15 th of April for seven of our earth's hours as I type this.

Celly Smunt

SamHall wrote: »

It's already been 15 th of April for seven of our earth's hours as I type this.

You mean to tell me not everybody revolves around GMT :eek:

Meglamonia

Wish someone could ramp up the rhetoric inside here starting to get quiet thought today would be busy.

Solair

Korea Time on Google Click Here

8:42 AM
Monday, April 15, 2013 (KST)
Time in North Korea


I'm guessing since nothing's gone off already and it's well after dawn, that nothing will.

JONJO THE MISER

reportedly no parades or other large events to take place in DPRK capital today. greater chance of indication of test today..if no big event or parade being held today chance of launch just went way up, indication leadership laying low before launch.

Gatling

We're all still here

I'm going to bed

Weathering

Is it just me or has fck all happened since the threats