Snow Patrol ripping off Ian Brown

Ally Dick

Just heard the Snow Patrol song "The Lightning Strike". I nearly choked. It's IDENTICAL to Ian Brown "F.E.A.R.". I hope Mr Brown is seeking legal advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE6gEbp9vvE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f8wAXDZ9D0

x Purple Pawprints x

Randomly found FEAR one time when I was getting a lift in someone's car and yes they are very similar because I heard the Snow Patrol one on the radio today and thought it was FEAR.

NIMAN

Heard it for the 1st time tonight in the car, and not knowing who it was I thought "thats sounds like Snow Patrol, but like Ian Brown too".

notnumber

Snow patrol dont give a sh** no more ..the quality of their music has plummented in recent years.Still the fans will prob lap it up as evidenced by the top comment ..

95Alicee 3 weeks ago
It doesn't matter what brought you here, it doesn't make you any better or worse, the point is we all came here to enjoy the wonderful music produced by one of my favourite bands Snow Patrol!
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iamstop

I've never like SP. In fact I actively dislike them.

666irishguy

Doesn't surprise me. Always thought Snow Patrol are just another bland acoustic guitar/piano soft emo band. Their brand of soaring chorus indie anthem music is everywhere and is bland as f**k. Brown is equally overrated so I could care less, but I think it's a sign of arrogance to lift or imitate the work of another so closely. I wonder will it be as big a deal as Coldplay V Joe Satriani?

SilverScreen

666irishguy wrote: »

Doesn't surprise me. Always thought Snow Patrol are just another bland acoustic guitar/piano soft emo band. Their brand of soaring chorus indie anthem music is everywhere and is bland as f**k. Brown is equally overrated so I could care less, but I think it's a sign of arrogance to lift or imitate the work of another so closely. I wonder will it be as big a deal as Coldplay V Joe Satriani?

I don't like Snow Patrol, but emo and indie? Snow Patrol are neither.

666irishguy

Zero1986 wrote: »

I don't like Snow Patrol, but emo and indie? Snow Patrol are neither.

Don't know what else to call them so I just call them "soft emo" due to the style of writing. I'd also say they are part of that whole indie sound/scene.

SilverScreen

666irishguy wrote: »

Don't know what else to call them so I just call them "soft emo" due to the style of writing. I'd also say they are part of that whole indie sound/scene.

How about just "pop rock"? Emo is stuff like Sunny Day Real Estate and indie refers to independent music, there is no "indie" sound as such. Snow Patrol were an indie band in the beginning but are now signed to a major label.

The song mentioned does sound like F.E.A.R. but there's been tons of cases of songs sounding like other songs, on purpose or not. It happens more often than you think.

666irishguy

Zero1986 wrote: »

How about just "pop rock"? Emo is stuff like Sunny Day Real Estate and indie refers to independent music, there is no "indie" sound as such. Snow Patrol were an indie band in the beginning but are now signed to a major label.

The song mentioned does sound like F.E.A.R. but there's been tons of cases of songs sounding like other songs, on purpose or not. It happens more often than you think.

Well I always just associate EMO with anything whiney, to be honest I could care less about what they are. Likewise Indie is just a broad description for any numerous looks and sounds these days. I'd agree that most popular music uses the same scales and chord progressions and it's bound to lead to repetition so I guess we will have to see what those knowledgeable in theory have to say.

NIMAN

Why the SP hate?

Music is subjective. Some will love SP, you may hate them. You think the music you listen to is amazing, but others will think its dung.

Can't understand why anyone would be annoyed by any artist or band. Don't like them? Then don't listen.

The Gibzilla

I can hear the similarities but I wouldn't be blowing my top over it. It's not note for note plagiarism. There's much stronger cases for plagiarism which makes me think, if it wasn't Snow Patrol in question would you still give a toss?

By the way I'm not a Snow Patrol fan at all.

DEFTLEFTHAND

It's quite similar, Brown could have a case, it's usually very simple to fix, you'd just give him a songwriting credit (eg, Oasis 'Take Me Away', Noel Gallagher/Stevie Wonder). Although Brown wrote FEAR with two other people so it may be more complicated.

The Gibzilla

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's quite similar, Brown could have a case, it's usually very simple to fix, you'd just give him a songwriting credit (eg, Oasis 'Take Me Away', Noel Gallagher/Stevie Wonder). Although Brown wrote FEAR with two other people so it may be more complicated.

I'm far from educated on the ins and outs of plagiarism but both of these songs are in different keys (Gm and F#m respectively) they also follow different progressions, Snow Patrols seems to be a I-VII-IV-III progression whereas "F.E.A.R" is a I-III-VI-IV progression.

I can definitely hear the similarities in both songs but I don't think that there is enough to go on plagiarism, though again that's my opinion based on instinct over intelligence.

The Oasis tune was "Step Out" by the way, it was the B-Side to "Don't Look Back In Anger," first single I ever bought

delbertgrady

The Gibzilla wrote: »

The Oasis tune was "Step Out" by the way, it was the B-Side to "Don't Look Back In Anger," first single I ever bought

Off-topic, but that's a great CD single: Step Out and Cum On Feel the Noize.
Of course, that was back in the day when Oasis had b-sides that other bands would kill for as singles.

ThisRegard

delbertgrady wrote: »

Of course, that was back in the day when Oasis had b-sides that other bands would kill for as singles.

Other bands did, well usually it was just the one band, The Beatles.

Ash.J.Williams

The Gibzilla wrote: »

I'm far from educated on the ins and outs of plagiarism but both of these songs are in different keys (Gm and F#m respectively) they also follow different progressions, Snow Patrols seems to be a I-VII-IV-III progression whereas "F.E.A.R" is a I-III-VI-IV progression.

I can definitely hear the similarities in both songs but I don't think that there is enough to go on plagiarism, though again that's my opinion based on instinct over intelligence.

The Oasis tune was "Step Out" by the way, it was the B-Side to "Don't Look Back In Anger," first single I ever bought

I didn't think there was a case there with the music, but the vocal is damn similar!!

DEFTLEFTHAND

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I didn't think there was a case there with the music, but the vocal is damn similar!!

It was pulled from 'What's The Story Glory?' Stevie Wonder requested a 10% royalty fee, Creation Records wouldn't budge on 5, so the compromise was to give him his rate and then attempt to bury the songs exposure by placing it on the B side of the 'Don't Look Back..' single.

Oasis also ran into trouble with Shakermaker, Coca Cola successfully sued them for $500,000. 'I'd like to teach the world to sing', a song from a coke advert in the 70s was deemed to be too similar to the track they produced 20 years later.

The Gibzilla

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It was pulled from 'What's The Story Glory?' Stevie Wonder requested a 10% royalty fee, Creation Records wouldn't budge on 5, so the compromise was to give him his rate and then attempt to bury the songs exposure by placing it on the B side of the 'Don't Look Back..' single.

Oasis also ran into trouble with Shakermaker, Coca Cola successfully sued them for $500,000. 'I'd like to teach the world to sing', a song from a coke advert in the 70s was deemed to be too similar to the track they produced 20 years later.

There was also a case involving the similarities between "Whatever" and "How Sweet To Be An Idiot" the song is credited to both Gallagher and Neil Innes.

Denalihighway

sorry but the songs are far from "identical"

at best, they resemble each other in general vibe and tempo, somewhat musically.

there are probably thousands of other better examples in popular music. I wouldn't get me knickers in a twist over it...

kickslate

Wow, that is unreal! talk about "heavily inspired" it really is just copied!