REGISTERING PUPS WITH IKC

Espoo · 01-04-2013 2:40pm #1

Hi All
Our dog has had 2 liiters of pups in just under 12 months. 346 days apart. First
litter were registered with IKC.
Ideally We would have preferred a couple of more months before She had them
but her heats are irregular. We are not going to breed from her again for a couple of years if at all. Had her vet checked before putting her in pup this
time and all was fine. So question is Will the IkC have any issues registering them this time around?

Cheers

tk123 · 01-04-2013 2:47pm

**Sigh** they probably won't - which is why they kind of suck tbh..

Espoo · 01-04-2013 2:59pm

tk123 wrote: »

**Sigh** they probably won't - which is why they kind of suck tbh..

Thanks TK. Interesting...

Aru · 01-04-2013 4:56pm

They may actually register them. The ikc code of ethics rules state
.I shall not allow to be mated any bitch kept by me
(a) under one year of age,
(b) or over eight years of age,
(c) whelp more than six litters in her lifetime,
(d) IN ANY THREE YEAR PERIOD NOT MORE THAN 3 LITTERS ARE TO BE BORN TO A BITCH
(e) or dogs to mate under seven months or over the age of twelve years.
Permission must be sought and granted by the Irish Kennel Club to exceed these provisions.

So your two litters in one year may come in under (d).

Contacting the kennel club is the easiest way to clear up the issue.

Espoo · 01-04-2013 5:28pm

Aru wrote: »

They may actually register them. The ikc code of ethics rules state
.I shall not allow to be mated any bitch kept by me
(a) under one year of age,
(b) or over eight years of age,
(c) whelp more than six litters in her lifetime,
(d) IN ANY THREE YEAR PERIOD NOT MORE THAN 3 LITTERS ARE TO BE BORN TO A BITCH
(e) or dogs to mate under seven months or over the age of twelve years.
Permission must be sought and granted by the Irish Kennel Club to exceed these provisions.

So your two litters in one year may come in under (d).

Contacting the kennel club is the easiest way to clear up the issue.

Thanks Aru,
Yes I had read those terms of the ikc and was surprised to be told by someone that they probably wouldn't register them so I decided to
ask the question here. Maybe someone has some first hand experience.
I don't believe We have breached any of the terms.
As you say best to check with the IKC.

Cheers

andreac · 01-04-2013 5:31pm

Why did you want or need to breed again So soon? Surely you could have waited until her next season?

Aru · 01-04-2013 5:33pm

They may have confused the Irish and British kennel club regulations as they are different.

The British kennel club rules are more stringent and would not allow two litters to be registered in the one year.

Knine · 01-04-2013 5:54pm

andreac wrote: »

Why did you want or need to breed again So soon? Surely you could have waited until her next season?

Agree with this.

Unfortunately the IKC will register the litter. Irregular heats or not I can't understand why someone would do this unless their sole purpose was to make money out of the poor dog.

Espoo · 01-04-2013 6:26pm

Thanks All,
This dog was not bought to make money, She is young, well looked after and a much loved family pet.
She may never have pups again.
Yes there seems to have been confusion with the Uk club.

Cheers

andreac · 01-04-2013 6:27pm

Espoo wrote: »

Thanks All,
This dog was not bought to make money, She is young, well looked after and a much loved family pet.
She may never have pups again.
Yes there seems to have been confusion with the Uk club.

Cheers

That may be so, but you chose to breed her twice within short space of time, for what reasons? If she's a much loved family pet you wouldn't be breeding her and even more so you wouldn't breed her twice so quickly and put her through having another litter that soon again.

ISDW · 01-04-2013 6:41pm

When you say that you had her vet checked before putting her in pup again, do you mean the vet examined her and declared her healthy, or did you do the genetic health tests that her breed can suffer from?

Espoo · 01-04-2013 6:55pm

ISDW wrote: »

When you say that you had her vet checked before putting her in pup again, do you mean the vet examined her and declared her healthy, or did you do the genetic health tests that her breed can suffer from?

Good question. Yes both tests were done

Thanks.

andreac · 01-04-2013 6:57pm

Espoo wrote: »

Good question. Yes both tests were done

Thanks.

You don't seem to want to answer my questions as to why she was bred twice so quick within short space of time? Surely if you had valid reason you would be able to say?

PucaMama · 01-04-2013 7:16pm

andreac wrote: »

You don't seem to want to answer my questions as to why she was bred twice so quick within short space of time? Surely if you had valid reason you would be able to say?

maybe they think its none of your business :rolleyes:

Espoo · 01-04-2013 7:20pm

andreac wrote: »

You don't seem to want to answer my questions as to why she was bred twice so quick within short space of time? Surely if you had valid reason you would be able to say?

Sorry Andreac
Yeah We are better positioned now to take care of mother and pups. Coming in to good time of year too. As said in my first post We would have preferred if it was a few more months. Appreciate your concerns.

Thanks

andreac · 01-04-2013 7:22pm

PucaMama wrote: »

maybe they think its none of your business :rolleyes:

Well if they wanted to keep it private then it shouldn't be on a public forum looking for advice and info.

andreac · 01-04-2013 7:23pm

Espoo wrote: »

Sorry Andreac
Yeah We are better positioned now to take care of mother and pups. Coming in to good time of year too. As said in my first post We would have preferred if it was a few more months. Appreciate your concerns.

Thanks

We're you breeding to sell them all or keep any?

tk123 · 01-04-2013 7:33pm

tk123 wrote: »

**Sigh** they probably won't - which is why they kind of suck tbh..

Just to clarify I meant they probably won't have an issue with registering which again is why they kind of suck.

anniehoo · 01-04-2013 9:01pm

andreac wrote: »

Why did you want or need to breed again So soon? Surely you could have waited until her next season?

andreac wrote: »

That may be so, but you chose to breed her twice within short space of time, for what reasons? If she's a much loved family pet you wouldn't be breeding her and even more so you wouldn't breed her twice so quickly and put her through having another litter that soon again.

andreac the OP isn't asking for advice on breeding.Please keep to the topic at hand thanks.Their question was about IKC registering, nothing else. If you want to explain why it's not a good idea to breed so close together by all means if the OP wants info, but don't bombard them with questions that they may or may not want to answer.

REGISTERING PUPS WITH IKC

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