Bar fights

FTA69

It's also worth noting that fighting in nightclubs and bars isn't the preserve of the usual suspects or traditionally "rough" elements. While doing security at one place in Cork City centre I had the manager of a nearby pub run over to ask our help. An argument had erupted between two men, one of whom left, went home and then returned with a kitchen knife taped to his hand and proceeded to stab the other man repeatedly in the face. One blow was so hard it dislodged one of your man's teeth and cut his bottom lip clean in two. The victim was a complete mess, it looked like someone had thrown a bucket of blood all over the bar and floor. It turned out the man that did this was a schoolteacher.

Also while working in student clubs you'd be surprised the amount of people from supposedly "good" backgrounds who have no compunction in committing serious assaults, often in groups against a solitary victim. Half the fights I had in one club came about because of private-school educated rugby players throwing their weight around and generally being a bloody nuisance.

No doubt that when some of these people ended up in court for assaults etc the "he's from a good background (i.e. rich) Your Honour" was often thrown up.

NuckingFacker

I went in for a fight once and ended up only getting a pint. Shyte Pub.

Norwesterner

I was in a disco in my hometown (Derry) in the mid-80's, when the local IRA team (over 15 masked men) walked in just as the last song had stopped.
They were there, due to complaints from local residents about weekly fights after the disco....and had come (ironically enough) to beat up the trouble makers.
They were armed with hurley bats, but one had a large silver revolver.
Obviously, all Hell broke loose outside, and fights erupted all over the place, with one guy having his balaclava pulled off, until the dude with the big cowboy gun started firing in the air.

Personally, haven't been in a fight for over 15 years after I broke my hand on some big farmers head during a kerfuffle in a Donegal chippy.

Junco Partner

trickymicky wrote: »

i used to work in pub in a town in tipperary

Hardly Carrick-on suir was it? Rough town of a saturday night. Took a fair few punches when i worked in a chippy there.

discus

FTA69 wrote: »

Also while working in student clubs you'd be surprised the amount of people from supposedly "good" backgrounds who have no compunction in committing serious assaults, often in groups against a solitary victim. Half the fights I had in one club came about because of private-school educated rugby players throwing their weight around and generally being a bloody nuisance.

No doubt that when some of these people ended up in court for assaults etc the "he's from a good background (i.e. rich) Your Honour" was often thrown up.

They're the worst. The Annabels case still sticks with me today.

krudler

Saw a guy get bottled the very first time I went to a pub, was around 16 I think and we got into a dive of a pub, didnt know any better, it was full of scummers, fight started on the dancefloor upstairs and then at kicking out time it all kicked off outside, saw some guy just march up to a lad walking out and smash a bottle off his head, then stabbed him with what was left a few times. It's mad seeing someone stabbed, you think its gonna be like in the movies and all specific but this guy was just doing it everywhere like it was a prison shivving or something, armts, legs, side etc. was horrible.

brandon_flowers

Re: private school rugby type lads thinking they can beat the world because they took creatine for two weeks and were a sub for the schools B team remind me of these guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1eI5fsVv4

smurgen

FTA69 wrote: »

It's also worth noting that fighting in nightclubs and bars isn't the preserve of the usual suspects or traditionally "rough" elements. While doing security at one place in Cork City centre I had the manager of a nearby pub run over to ask our help. An argument had erupted between two men, one of whom left, went home and then returned with a kitchen knife taped to his hand and proceeded to stab the other man repeatedly in the face. One blow was so hard it dislodged one of your man's teeth and cut his bottom lip clean in two. The victim was a complete mess, it looked like someone had thrown a bucket of blood all over the bar and floor. It turned out the man that did this was a schoolteacher.

Also while working in student clubs you'd be surprised the amount of people from supposedly "good" backgrounds who have no compunction in committing serious assaults, often in groups against a solitary victim. Half the fights I had in one club came about because of private-school educated rugby players throwing their weight around and generally being a bloody nuisance.

No doubt that when some of these people ended up in court for assaults etc the "he's from a good background (i.e. rich) Your Honour" was often thrown up.

I know the fella that teacher,used work with one of my friends.
I used work in the Savoy in Cork as a barman, seen a girl bite another girls nose.She took a lump out of it, catilage exposed and all one of the most horrific things i've ever seen!

ShagNastii

I saw a fight outside Supermacs in Eyre's Sq in Galway. It was comical, the whole of the square stopped to look(including Supermac's bouncers).

A serious fight? Yes, but it was as if two scobs said "Let's recreate the fight from Stepbrothers"

April O Neill

anncoates wrote: »

Thinly veiled thanks-harvesting device for tall tales about punching teenage "scumbags".

Ironically, yours is a thanks-harvesting post. :pac:

And it failed. You SUCK. :P

April O Neill

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

It's not a proper barfight unless someone gets defenestrated.

:pac:

That word has now entered my vocabulary. Thank you, Antar, thank you! :cool:

arybvtcw0eolkf

Stereomaniac wrote: »

The bouncers at Andrew's Lane Theatre beat me to a pulp for stage-diving at a Kerbdog gig before.

Before what?.

minidazzler

Since I started working in a bar I've seen more fights than I can count, and been involved in a few. I'll happily walk into the middle of two guys about to fight, look the aggressor in the eye and radio security. It almost always makes them try to run.. (too bad I'm good with call outs in my club )

I am calm as fook almost all the time, I don't get angry, saw a guy just about to punch a girl before stepped in the way took the punch (he was drunk and couldn't aim straight anyway) and called security.... I wished at that moment that the back stairs didn't have camera's.

I'm tempted to get a PSA licence just so I can remove people when it comes to it, but I love my own job too much for that :pac:


The reason Middle-class types generally seem worse for fights in bars and clubs, is likely because if you have switched on doormen the traditionally scummy types won't get in.

arybvtcw0eolkf

minidazzler wrote: »

The reason Middle-class types generally seem worse for fights in bars and clubs, is likely because if you have switched on doormen the traditionally scummy types won't get in.

Switched on door staff will keep trouble at the front door.. It never ceases to make me smile when punters say "sure there's never any trouble in here"... And I'm thinking 'Ya shoulda been here ten minutes ago when there was murder' :pac:

I never tell people when there's been trouble at the door or outside, its none of their business tbh and they're only out to enjoy themselves.

As you know I work the door alone, and mostly I prefer it like that. But I'm good with people, I'm a good talker but confident and not afraid to assert myself when needed.

Pug160

I haven't seen an actual bar fight in a few years. It seems to be dying out a bit. Although it all depends on where you go. If you go to a place with a bad reputation then there's obviously going to be a greater chance of you either seeing a fight or being involved in one.

In my opinion, most guys who get into that nonsense are not likely to be great fighters - just insecure people who want to prove something to themselves.

demanufactured

Norwesterner wrote: »

They were armed with hurley bats,.

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castletownman

demanufactured wrote: »

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Now now now. Them's fighting words

Steve O

Never been in one, sure I train in UFC.

the purple tin

Saw two really drunk junkies fighting on the street one night recently. Lots of snarling and loud insults but they could barely stand up. They were swinging wildly but not a punch came within two feet of the mark.
Finally one lost his balance while swinging and went flat on his face then the other one started throwing up.

Years ago was in Arklow and saw a fight between two drunks with massive beer bellies in liverpool jerseys, they ended up rolling around wrestling with each other on the ground, one guy was wearing tracky bottoms which quickly ended up around his ankles... unfortunately he had decided to go commando that night (insert puking smilie here)

Pug160

minidazzler wrote: »

Since I started working in a bar I've seen more fights than I can count, and been involved in a few. I'll happily walk into the middle of two guys about to fight, look the aggressor in the eye and radio security. It almost always makes them try to run.. (too bad I'm good with call outs in my club )

I am calm as fook almost all the time, I don't get angry, saw a guy just about to punch a girl before stepped in the way took the punch (he was drunk and couldn't aim straight anyway) and called security.... I wished at that moment that the back stairs didn't have camera's.

I'm tempted to get a PSA licence just so I can remove people when it comes to it, but I love my own job too much for that :pac:


The reason Middle-class types generally seem worse for fights in bars and clubs, is likely because if you have switched on doormen the traditionally scummy types won't get in.

I don't live in dreamland, so I know fights are always going to happen to some degree, but surely if there is constant fighting in a bar, such as the one you're working in, there should be a review of procedures? You're talking about classes but a drunken asshole is a drunken asshole in my opinion.

Conall Cernach

Steve O wrote: »

Never been in one, sure I train in UFC.

Do you even lift bro?

Steve O

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Do you even lift bro?

Pint in one hand and scumbag in the other.

suicide_circus

I was in a bar fight once. With one punch, i killed everyone in the place.

NothingMan

suicide_circus wrote: »

I was in a bar fight once. With one punch, i killed everyone in the place.

Trent?

paul4green

mkdon05 wrote: »

I used to be in the Swiss Cottage in Santry a lot, years ago, guaranteed a fight nearly every week and once or twice it involved maybe 15 to 20 people. Lots of blood and screaming, not the nicest thing to witness! When the bar staff all leave the bar and head for the storeroom, you know its a bad one!

It's actually has improved a lot over the last 2 years!. They've a nice restaurant and proper door staff. Great atmosphere since it was refurbished. Used to be a right aul kip though lol

TheBegotten

Has this been mentioned yet?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81659720

Actually, OP has to have the highest character to thanks ratio ever...

3hn2givr7mx1sc

TheBegotten wrote: »

Has this been mentioned yet?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81659720

Actually, OP has to have the highest character to thanks ratio ever...

Haaaaaaaave you met M.T Cranium?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=101703

minidazzler

Anne Short Lubrication wrote: »

As you know I work the door alone, and mostly I prefer it like that. But I'm good with people, I'm a good talker but confident and not afraid to assert myself when needed.

To be fair, if someone was trying to start on you they are either very drunk, very stupid or a mixture of both :pac:

Pug160 wrote: »

I don't live in dreamland, so I know fights are always going to happen to some degree, but surely if there is constant fighting in a bar, such as the one you're working in, there should be a review of procedures? You're talking about classes but a drunken asshole is a drunken asshole in my opinion.

It's a nightclub, it's just part of what happens in them, and it's not overall that bad, security are very very quick and switched on, and so are the bar supervisors and floor staff, if we see something happening or about to happen we'll call in security.

Basically for me, since I'm not security I will see something about to happen or happen and I'll radio one of three things; No Panic, Security to x Bar. Security to x Bar. Security to X Bar, X Bar, X Bar.

The first one gets one guy over to me to monitor the situation and maybe tell whoever it is to cool it, also used for people who puke etc. The Second is if a fight is imminent between just two people, it'll bring 3-4 security up and the third is for a big fight, a go at the tills or anything highly serious, and will have 10+ security rushing to us.

It works well enough, fights and other security issues are expected in a night club, it's why there is such a visible presence. Overall, there have only been two very serious incidents in the time I've been working here and the second one wasn't so much a security incident; one of our staff had a seizure while working.

cuana

Standing in the wrong place at the wrong time... fight started the sheer force of it all meant I was dragged across a floor & trampled on by a number of people! Fight breaks up and there I am this chick bleeding on the floor they never fcuken noticed :mad:

arybvtcw0eolkf

minidazzler wrote: »

To be fair, if someone was trying to start on you they are either very drunk, very stupid or a mixture of both :pac:

Yea but I'm still a people person

And I gave you a freebie pint so you'd tell all the AH people I'm really nice :pac:

minidazzler

Anne Short Lubrication wrote: »

Yea but I'm still a people person

And I gave you a freebie pint so you'd tell all the AH people I'm really nice :pac:

Without a doubt the soundest boardsie I've met (a few people will kill me for that ) , just pissed I couldn't have a pint with ya!

arybvtcw0eolkf

minidazzler wrote: »

Without a doubt the soundest boardsie I've met (a few people will kill me for that ) , just pissed I couldn't have a pint with ya!

Grand, I'll know your face next time and you won't need ID

yizorselves

One time I got in a fight with 2 lads at a bar. I hit one with a jab and the other with a follow up straight right. A brawl ensued, bottles and stools thrown. Well I actually wasnt there but I heard about it, it was one of my friends who was involved. Actually he might not have been but it definitley happened, well so this guy from work says but he's a bit of a bullsh1tter. Be pretty cool if it did though right?

Ruudi_Mentari

People who use real bottles instead of props are scum

The worlds a stage; don't be an actual cnut.