What would put you off an advert?

tossy

Photos of the car in water!

YbFocus

Yeah the whole water thing always confuses me, what does it do for the ad???

Or the ads with his/her car and all their mates cars too, half the time the car in question can hardly be seen!!

piston

I've seen ads where people have put in things like "new air and diesel filter"

I do expect the car to serviced when it's due so it's hardly a selling point unless the owner takes the usual Irish approach to servicing only when the thing stops, in which case I don't want it anyway.

Top Dog

BronsonTB wrote: »

Taking on board alot of the points made here, is there anything in this ad that would put you off, if you were looking for this type of car?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4807677

If only all car adverts read like that with all the detail you could ask for.

Well done!

listermint

Idbatterim wrote: »

so much! poor photos, poor spelling, no name on advert i.e "call seller", poor description, , this will sound ridiculous, but people selling higher end cars, when I see an 085 number... I far prefer also buying from an Irish person, sick of hearing the "selling for a mother, brother, uncle" bla bla bla. DL reg in particular.

I really dont get this at all ?

085 number ?

Meteor are a leading network in this country. I used to be with vodafone but they 'stole' 100 Euro from me when i was abroad and the phone was here including sim. Plus the fact that the monthly rates where crazy in comparison.

So youd buy a car if someone had an 087 number ?


Anyway off topic.

I despise the ads that have copious amounts of models written in the name or add description to up there search base. Painful.

Voodoomelon

Even though Carzone is pretty much full of dealers with over priced cars, the thought of paying €20,000+ on a car off Donedeal gives me the shivers.

listermint

BronsonTB wrote: »

Taking on board alot of the points made here, is there anything in this ad that would put you off, if you were looking for this type of car?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4807677

Probably put your first name on it.

Everything else looks fine. Might give the engine bay a clean however.

challengemaster

listermint wrote: »

I really dont get this at all ?

085 number ?

Meteor are a leading network in this country.

Meteor were decent until eircom bought them.... Don't think I know one person still with meteor these days

Andy_Dublin

BronsonTB wrote: »

Taking on board alot of the points made here, is there anything in this ad that would put you off, if you were looking for this type of car?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4807677

The 4th pic is enough to put me off - look closely.

Andy_Dublin

And for the people who don't like ads with no reg plates, there are reasons for this. For a normal run of the mill car yes I would be a bit suspect but it's not enough to not go and look at the car and take down the reg and check it. A genuine reason to block car reg is for security reasons.

Fozzie Bear

Adverts with no pictures, just one picture or no interior picture.

Adverts with no sell price.

Adverts with no contact name or just "seller".

Adverts with the number plate blocked. (but its often still ofter visable on the NCT disc photo)

Adverts with the line "Lady owner" yet the contact name is Mick. Do you have gender issues?

Adverts with no e-mail contact facility. I like to e-mail a list with a few small and quick questions before ringing.

Adverts where they spell the actual name of the car incorrectly. VW pasat!?! fcuk sake....

Adverts where they have not bothered their arse to even wash the damn car or hoover it out. If you care that little about the car when trying to sell it then Gods know what you have done to it over the past few years owning it.

There are more that get on my t1ts too but I can't think of right now...

Gumbo

challengemaster wrote: »

Meteor were decent until eircom bought them.... Don't think I know one person still with meteor these days

I am, 99% of my mates are and my whole immediate family are with meteor. They have the fastest 3G speeds in Ireland's, not to mention one of the cheapest roaming rates too.

Avns1s

Andy_Dublin wrote: »

The 4th pic is enough to put me off - look closely.

The galvoband!!??

Andy_Dublin

Avns1s wrote: »

The galvoband!!??

Exactly, look at the size of the gap, what's supposed to be there and why is it gone? Dead ringer for a crashed car.

Celly Smunt

"No tyre kickers"-so basically there's something horrendously wrong with the car but the seller won't post it on the ad because it will put potential buyers off.

StickyIcky

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

did you read the part where i said i'm 085 myself

my personal opinion is that it's all a nonsense, but the reality is that a lot of people see it that way. its stigmatised even though we all do it, a bit like shopping in Lidl/ Aldi.

Yip I did mate, sorry I wasn't having a go if that's what it seemed. I was just pointing out people that carry those types of preconceptions about other people would put me off that person entirely yet alone their advert or anything else

H3llR4iser

Andy_Dublin wrote: »

And for the people who don't like ads with no reg plates, there are reasons for this. For a normal run of the mill car yes I would be a bit suspect but it's not enough to not go and look at the car and take down the reg and check it. A genuine reason to block car reg is for security reasons.

No, there is no reason to block the plate. A car is bound to be in a public place almost 100% of the time; Do people cover their plate when they park at work, in the shopping centre, outside the gym and so on? As a matter of fact, somebody could be just walking around your estate and copy down the registration on a piece of paper - while the car sits in your driveway. The internet is a public place, no more, no less.

A covered plate on a car selling ad will always be interpreted as "something's awfully wrong with it, it may even be stolen".

djimi

H3llR4iser wrote: »

No, there is no reason to block the plate. A car is bound to be in a public place almost 100% of the time; Do people cover their plate when they park at work, in the shopping centre, outside the gym and so on? As a matter of fact, somebody could be just walking around your estate and copy down the registration on a piece of paper - while the car sits in your driveway. The internet is a public place, no more, no less.

A covered plate on a car selling ad will always be interpreted as "something's awfully wrong with it, it may even be stolen".

While I agree for the most part that covering the plate is pointless with most cars, I can see the arguement where the car in question is a bit rarer. If I wanted the plate from a 1.4 Focus I could walk outside my front door and fall over ten of them. However if for whatever reason you want the plate off of a 92 Civic for example then youre not as likely to come across one while walking around town, so making it easy for these guys by having your plate visible on a DD ad probably isnt so smart.

Im not saying its somethat that Id necessarily bother doing myself, but in some cases I can see the logic.

NIMAN

People who can't even rotate a camera/photo :rolleyes:

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/2001-suzuki-alto-gl/1014355658

yop

Andy_Dublin wrote: »

The 4th pic is enough to put me off - look closely.

Can't see it? Rev counter? Car mats

Andy_Dublin

H3llR4iser wrote: »

No, there is no reason to block the plate. A car is bound to be in a public place almost 100% of the time; Do people cover their plate when they park at work, in the shopping centre, outside the gym and so on? As a matter of fact, somebody could be just walking around your estate and copy down the registration on a piece of paper - while the car sits in your driveway. The internet is a public place, no more, no less.

A covered plate on a car selling ad will always be interpreted as "something's awfully wrong with it, it may even be stolen".

You've obviously never sold a rare/highly sought after valuable car before, have you ever worried that your car might get stolen? As I said when it comes to normal run of the mill cars who cares but if I was selling a specialised vehicle I would not advertise my reg plate. In the past criminals have gained access to owners details and cars have been stolen to order. Never heard of car cloning?

If you want to see my car reg, come and see my car and let me see who you are and you can see who I am. Then make your assumptions why I didn't display my reg number in an open public area.

Andy_Dublin

yop wrote: »

Can't see it? Rev counter? Car mats

Avns1s wrote: »

The galvoband!!??

Think that answers that.

BronsonTB

yop wrote: »

Can't see it? Rev counter? Car mats

I've now taken down the engine bay pic until I give it a good cleaning this wkend as suggested I should do.....:D

Using this thread to help with what not to put in the txt of a car ad....

dgt

"Ex show car"

Anything with rep wheels (especially RS6 reps)

cpoh1

H3llR4iser wrote: »

No, there is no reason to block the plate. A car is bound to be in a public place almost 100% of the time; Do people cover their plate when they park at work, in the shopping centre, outside the gym and so on? As a matter of fact, somebody could be just walking around your estate and copy down the registration on a piece of paper - while the car sits in your driveway. The internet is a public place, no more, no less.

A covered plate on a car selling ad will always be interpreted as "something's awfully wrong with it, it may even be stolen".

You are incorrect on this. With some makes of car, specifically rarer high performance models that you would not see every day especially outside of Dublin, people ARE taking reg plate numbers off cars they see for sale on the net and cloning the reg. I have a friend who got caught for this with a car a few years ago he was selling - he reckons it was the net they got his reg from as his car had been off the road for 3 years previously. 3 months after it went for sale he started getting fines in the post from the M50 toll!

I always blank my reg plate out on cars im selling - its irrelevant to the condition of the car if a potential buyer is looking. If / when someone contacts me, is interested and isint a blaggard ill give them the reg so they can do whatever checks they like. Worked fine for me when selling stuff on.

ShadowHearth

Few things:

****y photos. Though if I am interest in car, I will ask seller to email new and latest pictures. You should see the photos seller put up of the scooby I bought... Holy shiet... Thanks god I asked him to put new ones or I would have missed out on that car. ****y photos can put you off from car, but it doesnof mean car is bad. Some people just don't have the feel of "taking good pictures" .

No price tag or call for price. Those ads go to "**** box" ASAP.

evolutionqy7

cpoh1 wrote: »

You are incorrect on this.

He's not really incorrect. Everyone to their own opinion. Is personally skip any ads that have the reg plate covered unless they look really good

cpoh1

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

He's not really incorrect. Everyone to their own opinion. Is personally skip any ads that have the reg plate covered unless they look really good

Not to get pedantic but it is absolutely incorrect to assume that displaying your reg as a free for all on the net is not a danger - especially if its a rare car that you wouldnt see day to day on the road in Ireland.

I can find quite a few DC5's on the road identical to mine on the net that I could simply copy the reg plate on, ive yet to see one in the flesh with the same spec as mine that i could reference the plate off.

When I am looking for a car the last thing i am concerned with is whether theres a reg plate in a picture. If I am serious I will talk to the owner and look at the car with my own eyes.

djimi

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

He's not really incorrect. Everyone to their own opinion. Is personally skip any ads that have the reg plate covered unless they look really good

Why would it put you off though? If you like what you see about the car surely you would go and see it, where you will then be able to note the reg number to do whatever checks you want before you buy?

Unless you pay to Motorcheck every car you like before you go to see it (which would be madness!) I dont see what you are losing by not being able to see the reg in the ad?

cpoh1

A couple of things I do when selling a car - I have a spreadsheet of all the maintenance work i have done on the car over the years, who if not me and at what mileage - and whether I have receipts to back it up.

I also take photos of all the bad points and send them to genuinely interested buyers - that way they know exactly what they are getting to come visit the car. The way I see it - it helps me because people will show up with realistic expectations as to what they will be looking at.

Top Dog

djimi wrote: »

Unless you pay to Motorcheck every car you like before you go to see it (which would be madness!) I dont see what you are losing by not being able to see the reg in the ad?

If there's no mention of tax or test on an advert its very easy (and free) to check online whether or not a car has either ... if you have the reg plate

I can kinda see where lads are coming from with the rarer cars - but who on earth wants to clone a Focus, Yaris, Pajero or anything else that you'd see regularly on the roads?

evolutionqy7

djimi wrote: »

Why would it put you off though? If you like what you see about the car surely you would go and see it, where you will then be able to note the reg number to do whatever checks you want before you buy?

Unless you pay to Motorcheck every car you like before you go to see it (which would be madness!) I dont see what you are losing by not being able to see the reg in the ad?

Well as I said, unless its a really nice car im not going to bother. The person is selling the car, if you want to sell it easy, you must provide as much info about the product in order for me to buy it.

There's other things I might want to check using the reg plate. You obstruct so by doing that. In the end the fact that its not display makes me feel like the seller is trying to hide something.

If some one wants to scam your number plate they can also go down to your local Tesco, pick the car of their choice and take it.

quietsailor

Top Dog wrote: »

I can kinda see where lads are coming from with the rarer cars - but who on earth wants wouldn't want to clone a Focus, Yaris, Pajero or anything else that you'd see regularly on the roads as you can pass through tolls for free then?

FYP there fella :D, I'd say that it would be easier to clone a common car and use the "new" registration plate to avoid paying for tolls and at fuel stations

for the TL;DR ers :P - if you clone one of the common cars your more likely to go un-noticed

Think of it this way;
top dog owns a yellow turbo nutter scooby that there is only two of in the country and top dog's mate sees the cloned scooby driving around Cork when he knows top dog & his turbo nutter scooby are in Dublin - he's going to ring top dog and tell him someone has stolen his car and it's Cork. "No they haven't" says top dog, "it's parked outside right now" - I'd hope at this point the owner figures out their plate has been cloned.

Now rinse and repeat with a bog standard car - say a silver 05 mondeo, if top dog's mate sees one in Cork when top dog is in Dublin do you thing the mate will even think of ringing about it - he probably won't even read the number plate, how many of us can remember our mates car reg, I can only remember one friends reg out of 12 lads & lassies whose cars I see on a regular constant basis,

For the OP, things that I hate to see in an ad;

1. Dirty cars - inside or outside
2. Owners belongings in the car
3. No mention of servicing
4. badly taken or badly lit photos - ffs how hard is it to email a mate the text and photos and ask if they think its an ok ad - kinda like the OP is doing here.
5. TXT speak, especially txt speak in capitals
6. bad spelling - again ffs your on the internet ie a computer, type it up in word if your not sure and spell check it.* Use a wiki/google to check the spelling of strange words olins/ohlins is a good example there
7. If it doesn't have a NCT say so "It doesn't have a NCT", if it failed say so and what is needed to pass. If I arrive at your house and find you knew what it needs to pas a NCT but let me drive to you without telling me I'll walk away immediately. You've hidden one thing, what else did you lie about
8. If you get a serious buyer I'd consider emailing them photos of the bad points once you've talked. It'd make me more likely to deal with you as I know your are honest and anyway I'll see the bad points when I view the car

* = I know this won't catch brake/break but it'll catch most spelling errors

djimi

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Well as I said, unless its a really nice car im not going to bother. The person is selling the car, if you want to sell it easy, you must provide as much info about the product in order for me to buy it.

There's other things I might want to check using the reg plate. You obstruct so by doing that. In the end the fact that its not display makes me feel like the seller is trying to hide something.

If some one wants to scam your number plate they can also go down to your local Tesco, pick the car of their choice and take it.

The seller is trying to hide something; if they have a car that you are not likely to find easily in your local Tescos then chances are if someone is up to something dodgy then DoneDeal is where they will look next. I think thats good enough reason to block the reg number, dont you? Perhaps not on a car that is easily accessible in any car park, but for something that is not so easy to come by. If you as a buyer are serious then you can always make a quick phone call to ask about tax/NCT (and a good seller will have that information in the ad anyway), and other than that Im not sure what else you can get from the reg on initial check.

blastman

Top Dog wrote: »

If there's no mention of tax or test on an advert its very easy (and free) to check online whether or not a car has either ... if you have the reg plate

I can kinda see where lads are coming from with the rarer cars - but who on earth wants to clone a Focus, Yaris, Pajero or anything else that you'd see regularly on the roads?

Someone does, as my mother's Nissan Micra was cloned not so long ago.

aman23

registration number covered.
only 3 owners from new!

antodeco

For me, not having an email address as well as "no texters" puts me right off. I do like to send an email with a few questions first, then Ill arrange to meet or call. Its a little easier that way, as if they person you are ringing isint free, you will just get fobbed off answers.

Matt Simis

cpoh1 wrote: »

Not to get pedantic but it is absolutely incorrect to assume that displaying your reg as a free for all on the net is not a danger - especially if its a rare car that you wouldnt see day to day on the road in Ireland.

I can find quite a few DC5's on the road identical to mine on the net that I could simply copy the reg plate on,

Im confused over why you think that rarer cars are more likely to get cloned like this? What is the purposes of cloning.. to dodge toll fines? Parking Fines? You dont need "identical" cars, all you need a car from the same maker and the same colour. Thats it. A low res CCTV (or average eye witness) is not able to differentiate your DC5 from any other Integra and you could probably stretch that to same colour and size any-other coupe. How many times have you heard on the News or Crimewatch "Black BMW" as the description of a car? People are thick.

If cloned plates are for committing serious crimes, then again "rare cars" dont come into it as you absolutely wouldnt want an unusual attention grabbing car as a get away car at all.

Aside from all this, you can put any reg on a car you want and drive about and SFA will happen to you unless you get to a checkpoint, at which point you will be told to correct it. Things are pretty basic here.


I too will skip nearly all adverts with blocked out reg plates.

Toyotafanboi

djimi wrote: »

Why would it put you off though? If you like what you see about the car surely you would go and see it, where you will then be able to note the reg number to do whatever checks you want before you buy?

Unless you pay to Motorcheck every car you like before you go to see it (which would be madness!) I dont see what you are losing by not being able to see the reg in the ad?

when im looking to buy a car, i always do a motorcheck before i leave to view it. in most cases €35 to motorcheck is a lot cheaper than the cost of a tank of fuel and a lunch somewhere when you travel to view a car. at least twice i can remember it saving my arse.

cpoh1

Matt Simis wrote: »

Im confused over why you think that rarer cars are more likely to get cloned like this? What is the purposes of cloning.. to dodge toll fines? Parking Fines? You dont need "identical" cars, all you need a car from the same maker and the same colour. Thats it. A low res CCTV (or average eye witness) is not able to differentiate your DC5 from any other Integra and you could probably stretch that to same colour and size any-other coupe. How many times have you heard on the News or Crimewatch "Black BMW" as the description of a car? People are thick.

If cloned plates are for committing serious crimes, then again "rare cars" dont come into it as you absolutely wouldnt want an unusual attention grabbing car as a get away car at all.

Aside from all this, you can put any reg on a car you want and drive about and SFA will happen to you unless you get to a checkpoint, at which point you will be told to correct it. Things are pretty basic here.


I too will skip nearly all adverts with blocked out reg plates.

Its simple really Matt - rare faster cars, mostly jap, that *some* people would use for mucking around in are using other peoples regs to avoid speeding and getting reported for general fooling around. Like i said it happened to a mate first hand with a car that saw no daylight for 3 years up until it went for sale and then the fines and hassle started with it being reported in dublin numerous times and loads of toll fines too.

Andy_Dublin

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

when im looking to buy a car, i always do a motorcheck before i leave to view it. in most cases €35 to motorcheck is a lot cheaper than the cost of a tank of fuel and a lunch somewhere when you travel to view a car. at least twice i can remember it saving my arse.

If you have arranged a viewing already maybe the seller would give you the reg over the phone before you left, that way he has screened the buyer himself and is comfortable to give the reg number out.

Most people will have different options/experiences selling cars, I have my way and I would rather protect my reg from cloning, thieves, burglars etc. A persons reg can lead to your details being obtained illegally, then house broken into and your car stolen you get the gist.

What people need to remember is that just because a reg is on display it does not mean it's a clean car. Eg. a persons house getting broken into and keys of a car are found and the car is stolen. Said thief goes onto donedeal finds the same year model and colour car, he then gets new plates made up and removes the discs. The only original identifying marker on the car is the chassis number. So you are a buyer see the reg on donedeal then do a Cartell or Motorcheck or whatever, you are led to believe it is all above board. This is the type of cloning I am refering to.

evolutionqy7

Don't really care cloning or not. Why should I waste my time to find out what your number plate is?

I'll simply go somewhere else. Doesn't matter if you accept that or not. I just don't want to make the effort of getting something from you that should be already on display. If you're selling a good car for reasonable money I doubt it will be up there long enough for some one to grab the number plate.

I could walk through my neighbour hood and probably pick up any common car number plate I want. I presume I should remove or cover my plates everything I'm not driving. Ech

Andy_Dublin

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Don't really care cloning or not. Why should I waste my time to find out what your number plate is?

I'll simply go somewhere else. Doesn't matter if you accept that or not. I just don't want to make the effort of getting something from you that should be already on display. If you're selling a good car for reasonable money I doubt it will be up there long enough for some one to grab the number plate.

I could walk through my neighbour hood and probably pick up any common car number plate I want. I presume I should remove or cover my plates everything I'm not driving. Ech

IMO did you not read that part? Don't buy cars that don't display regs that's your prerogative. I've never displayed a reg in any of my for sale ads and have never had a car for sale longer than a month. Make of that what you will. If you ever want to buy an exclusive car and the market is quite small and none of the sellers display the reg of the exact car you want then you will disregard them, hence you can't get the car you want "just because you can't see the reg plate in the ad".

Hard luck mate. You just didn't get to buy an exclusive car because you weren't bothered to get the reg yourself, your loss.

Looking for my next car already (well, won't be buying for a little while yet, but just taking regular mooches through DoneDeal/CarZone when I'm free or bored).

I'd be among the group who feel a blanked-out license plate is something to hide. puts me off an advert straight away (but then again, I'm not exactly looking at 'high end' cars). I get put off by UK reg cars too (don't ask me why this is another reason I prefer not to care for cars with blanked reg plates).

That and 'mint' or 'excellent condition' etc. and an obvious bit of damage/scrapes in the photos lead me to think the person doesn't really care about taking care of the car. I'd view these ads as the kind of thing that you'll turn up to view the car and there'll be loads of small things wrong with the car cosmetically (not that I've a major issue with that, but I'd rather the honesty in advance).


Out from that nothing really puts me off at all.

NIMAN

Sorry ladies, but "one lady owner" always sets my alarm bells ringing.
I think its meant to be a positive, as the car is likely to be easily driven, but I have been in a few cars where the 'lady' doesn't seem to know how the gears work, and I would say the wear-and-tear on them would be a lot higher than it should be.

php-fox

Idbatterim wrote: »

I far prefer also buying from an Irish person...

You wouldn't have a problem selling your car to a foreigner, would you? Why is it different the other way around?

teednab-el

1. Not keeping the photos of the car in question the same, (i.e seeing some of the photos of the car taken in sunlight and one photo taken in the snow).
2. Photos of car taken in grass or sand.
3. Lady owner, what does that mean? Hardly a reason for me to buy car.
4. "Drives like new" in other words it doesnt .

sean1141

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Adverts with no pictures, just one picture or no interior picture.

Adverts with no sell price.

Adverts with no contact name or just "seller".

Adverts with the number plate blocked. (but its often still ofter visable on the NCT disc photo)

Adverts with the line "Lady owner" yet the contact name is Mick. Do you have gender issues?

Adverts with no e-mail contact facility. I like to e-mail a list with a few small and quick questions before ringing.

Adverts where they spell the actual name of the car incorrectly. VW pasat!?! fcuk sake....

Adverts where they have not bothered their arse to even wash the damn car or hoover it out. If you care that little about the car when trying to sell it then Gods know what you have done to it over the past few years owning it.

There are more that get on my t1ts too but I can't think of right now...

antodeco wrote: »

For me, not having an email address as well as "no texters" puts me right off. I do like to send an email with a few questions first, then Ill arrange to meet or call. Its a little easier that way, as if they person you are ringing isint free, you will just get fobbed off answers.

Every time I have put up a car or anything else up for sale with an email contact i get spammed with stupid scam messages. I have no problem with anyone texting though.

Then some people don't have access to email all day every day or got someone to put up the add so they wont have an email up.

Nothing really puts me off an add. I usually have my make model trim and colours picked before I browse so my choices are limited. Plus I tend to go for rarer cars so that limits my choice even more!

solas111

Saw an ad in the shop today for a '98 Toyota Starlet and two things made me remember it. Firstly, the car was described as "4 dore" and secondly it was priced at €1,500, which is a pretty optimistic price for such a car.

bigroad

I hate when they say,NEED GONE, If They need it gone so much ,why dont they just leave the keys in the ignition and some one will take it away for them.