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Eir Fibre Rollout Mapping

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    #2732
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    emy50 wrote: »
    :mad:
    disappointed but not surprised

    I was on the verge of signing up for a broadband plan 18 months ago on a promise from a Eir sales person that Fibre would land in the area in Jan/Feb 2015, so glad I didn't!

    At this rate is could be 2017 before Fibre is delivered
    It shouldn't be too long. Oilgate main exchange was only enabled very recently so it shouldn't be more than 1-2 months.


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    #2733
    daraghwal
    Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    marno21 wrote: »
    It shouldn't be too long. Oilgate main exchange was only enabled very recently so it shouldn't be more than 1-2 months.

    Ferns main exchange was enabled 2/3/16 and I seen the other day they put down the cabinet 001 up the road. Still no word on a go live date!


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    #2734
    pegasus1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    daraghwal wrote: »
    Ferns main exchange was enabled 2/3/16 and I seen the other day they put down the cabinet 001 up the road. Still no word on a go live date!
    Ferns is live....feeding 540 premises....


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    #2735
    daraghwal
    Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    pegasus1 wrote: »
    daraghwal wrote: »
    Ferns main exchange was enabled 2/3/16 and I seen the other day they put down the cabinet 001 up the road. Still no word on a go live date!
    Ferns is live....feeding 540 premises....

    I meant no go live date for 001


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    #2736
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    funnyname wrote: »
    Original data from the sitting room, latest data from the main access point (white box with separate points for BB and phone) in the hall

    Take out any phones you have, reboot and check stats.


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    #2737
    coffeeJohn92
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭coffeeJohn92


    Have a 7mb/s fibre connection, our house is 1800m from the local exchange.

    A new cab is to go live which is 1100-1200m away. This second VDSL cab, would that make the exchange vector enabled?

    Not exactly sure how vectoring works, but I've read that it extends the max range of Fibre, from 1500m to 2000m. Is this correct?

    If so when that cab goes live would our line see any speed increase? Would we have to call Eir(com) to get connected to this new cab, if thats even possoble?

    If anyone could help would be great, Thank you.


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    #2738
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    coffeeJohn92 wrote: »
    Have a 7mb/s fibre connection, our house is 1800m from the local exchange.

    A new cab is to go live which is 1100-1200m away. This second VDSL cab, would that make the exchange vector enabled?

    Not exactly sure how vectoring works, but I've read that it extends the max range of Fibre, from 1500m to 2000m. Is this correct?

    If so when that cab goes live would our line see any speed increase? Would we have to call Eir(com) to get connected to this new cab, if thats even possoble?

    If anyone could help would be great, Thank you.

    If you are actually connected to the exchange and you are 1800m from it, then the exchange is already vectored (it's one of very few that are). You're right - without vectoring the range is limited to 1500m.

    When the cab goes live, will make no difference to you, as you're not connected to it. I don't believe they will connect you if you ask them.

    Can you post your router statistics, in particular the downstream attenuation. We can get a proper idea of your line length from that.


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    #2739
    coffeeJohn92
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭coffeeJohn92


    MMFITWGDV wrote: »
    If you are actually connected to the exchange and you are 1800m from it, then the exchange is already vectored (it's one of very few that are). You're right - without vectoring the range is limited to 1500m.

    When the cab goes live, will make no difference to you, as you're not connected to it. I don't believe they will connect you if you ask them.

    Can you post your router statistics, in particular the downstream attenuation. We can get a proper idea of your line length from that.

    Router stats are as follows

    Connection: ITU G.992.1(G.DMT)
    Speed: 7168 kbps/512 kbps
    Line Attenuation(Down/Up): 26.5 dB/ 16.5 dB
    Noise Margin: 15.5 dB/ 22.0 dB

    As I said our line is a Fibre connection, at least thats what the Eir reps and tech support guys have told me a number of times over the past year.

    Going on my router stats what speed would we get on a ADSL2+ line? and is there a way to find out if our exchange has that option.

    Cheers for the help


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    #2740
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    coffeeJohn92 wrote: »
    Router stats are as follows

    Connection: ITU G.992.1(G.DMT)
    Speed: 7168 kbps/512 kbps
    Line Attenuation(Down/Up): 26.5 dB/ 16.5 dB
    Noise Margin: 15.5 dB/ 22.0 dB

    As I said our line is a Fibre connection, at least thats what the Eir reps and tech support guys have told me a number of times over the past year.

    Going on my router stats what speed would we get on a ADSL2+ line? and is there a way to find out if our exchange has that option.

    Cheers for the help

    You're on ADSL no "fibre" (VDSL/eVDSL). That means that new cab may be applicable to your line.


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    #2741
    coffeeJohn92
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭coffeeJohn92


    ED E wrote: »
    You're on ADSL no "fibre" (VDSL/eVDSL). That means that new cab may be applicable to your line.

    Hey ED E, cheers for the reply. Well we signed up to the Fibre deal about a year ago, so our account is Fibre.
    But ofc Eir just lie through there teeth, been saying since then that our line is 100% fibre and 7mb is the max we can get.

    Would you know what speed we could get say if and when that cab goes live?
    If we stuck with our current setup, or would we have to call Eir and be put on hold/transfered for about 30mins untill we chat to someone who has any clue what their talking about.

    If this cab goes live would that mean vectoring would be enabled to out exchange and we could get a higher speed?


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    #2742
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    coffeeJohn92 wrote: »
    Connection: ITU G.992.1(G.DMT)
    Speed: 7168 kbps/512 kbps
    Line Attenuation(Down/Up): 26.5 dB/ 16.5 dB
    Noise Margin: 15.5 dB/ 22.0 dB

    2KM bang on from the exchange. You ordered eFibre, but they've never jumpered you to it I suspect. The eFibre modems are ADSL capable too so it just connected with what it was given.

    coffeeJohn92 wrote: »
    The Cabinet in question is FXD1_001. This cab has been at 'Within 1 Year' status for about 12-14 months on the Eir.ie site.

    The exchange: BARRICKS RD (ASUMPTA PLACE)
    FXD1_001: 800M away further into town.

    Assuming that cab does service you (only gonna happen if you live west of the Moy) then 1200m to it adds up. In that case you can expect between 20 and 30Mb VDSL. You will have to order an upgrade as while their customer care may say you're on fibre you're not.


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    #2743
    coffeeJohn92
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭coffeeJohn92


    ED E wrote: »
    Assuming that cab does service you (only gonna happen if you live west of the Moy) then 1200m to it adds up. In that case you can expect between 20 and 30Mb VDSL. You will have to order an upgrade as while their customer care may say you're on fibre you're not.

    ED E, thanks for your help. I guess the only thing I can do is wait till that cab goes live and see if anything can be done. If not then its 2020 till any speed upgrade will happen.

    Hopefully Imagine LTE aren't a complete disaster when they finally come to this area.

    Cheers again ED E


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    #2744
    emy50
    Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭emy50


    marno21 wrote: »
    It shouldn't be too long. Oilgate main exchange was only enabled very recently so it shouldn't be more than 1-2 months.

    Eir have been promising live in 6 weeks for well over 6 weeks now?


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    #2745
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    emy50 wrote: »
    Eir have been promising live in 6 weeks for well over 6 weeks now?

    That map is grossly inaccurate, use http://www.fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when instead


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    #2746
    Wing126
    Registered Users Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    marno21 wrote: »
    That map is grossly inaccurate, use http://www.fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when instead

    How do I acurately figure out when I can get fibre at my address?

    I'm not on a blue line and the Exchange I am connected to is fibre live.

    The nearest cabinet to me that is fibre ready is 1.5km straight line distance from me and 2.1km actual.

    Probably quite a while before I'll be fibre at my address?


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    #2747
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Wing126 wrote: »
    How do I acurately figure out when I can get fibre at my address?

    I'm not on a blue line and the Exchange I am connected to is fibre live.

    The nearest cabinet to me that is fibre ready is 1.5km straight line distance from me and 2.1km actual.

    Probably quite a while before I'll be fibre at my address?
    Have you tried putting your home phone number (or a neighbours if you have your line disconnected) into the line checker?

    http://business.digiweb.ie/linechecker/


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    #2748
    Wing126
    Registered Users Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    marno21 wrote: »
    Have you tried putting your home phone number (or a neighbours if you have your line disconnected) into the line checker?

    http://business.digiweb.ie/linechecker/

    Showing a max of 4mb.


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    #2749
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Wing126 wrote: »
    Showing a max of 4mb.
    Which exchange is it if you don't mind me asking?

    There could be another cabinet closer to you that may be enabled in the future, otherwise you will be marked for intervention under the National Broadband Plan. Sorry to hear, if so.


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    #2750
    Wing126
    Registered Users Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    marno21 wrote: »
    Which exchange is it if you don't mind me asking?

    There could be another cabinet closer to you that may be enabled in the future, otherwise you will be marked for intervention under the National Broadband Plan. Sorry to hear, if so.

    BSZ_E01 is the main exchange. Nearest cabinet to me is BSZ_009. As far as I can see all the cabinets nearby are fibre enabled.

    If I'm marked for intervention under the NBP what does that actually mean?

    Edit: I am marked for Intervention...


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    #2751
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Wing126 wrote: »
    BSZ_E01 is the main exchange. Nearest cabinet to me is BSZ_009. As far as I can see all the cabinets nearby are fibre enabled.

    If I'm marked for intervention under the NBP what does that actually mean?

    Edit: I am marked for Intervention...
    Unfortunately, Bettystown (BSZ) has no additional cabinets to be enabled & has no premises for open eir's 2017-2020 FTTH rollout.

    Details haven't been clarified on the NBP plan yet, but keep an eye on this thread here, as all discussion on the NBP will take place in this thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057332672


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    #2752
    RoYoBo
    Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    If a house is on a blue line due for ftth in Autumn/Winter 2016, does it mean that whenever that exchange is fiber enabled/connected for ftth, it will be available to every house on all the blue lines from that exchange?

    For example, I notice on the Lifford exchange information that they mention 550 homes for ftth? If there are more than 550 homes on the various blue lines coming from the main exchange, how will they decide who gets chosen? I know that there are 2 new cabinets to be enabled shortly, so that may cover a good percentage of households before ftth arrives, but I'm still left wondering how it will all be allocated.

    My aunt's house is roughly 2.7kms from the exchange on a blue line - is there a chance she may not get ftth at all?


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    #2753
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    RoYoBo wrote: »
    If a house is on a blue line due for ftth in Autumn/Winter 2016, does it mean that whenever that exchange is fiber enabled/connected for ftth, it will be available to every house on all the blue lines from that exchange?

    For example, I notice on the Lifford exchange information that they mention 550 homes for ftth? If there are more than 550 homes on the various blue lines coming from the main exchange, how will they decide who gets chosen? I know that there are 2 new cabinets to be enabled shortly, so that may cover a good percentage of households before ftth arrives, but I'm still left wondering how it will all be allocated.

    My aunt's house is roughly 2.7kms from the exchange on a blue line - is there a chance she may not get ftth at all?

    They have picked 100000 homes and only given us the number per exchange, not the specific houses just a vague number.

    If a house is on a blue line it seems to indicate that they will be part of open eir's 2017-2020 rollout.


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    #2754
    funnyname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Thanks, after a couple of calls, now on a profile of 7Mb so a good improvement on the pre fibre update of exchange.

    No blue lines from our exchange but it is mentioned as one that will be updated to FTTH during 2017-20 so hopefully not too much longer to wait!
    MMFITWGDV wrote: »
    A tiny improvement on the earlier one. Reboot did SFA really.

    I'd log a call - maybe mention there's crackling on the line, it should get a proper engineer type to look at it.
    ED E wrote: »
    Take out any phones you have, reboot and check stats.


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    #2755
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The following exchange cabinets were enabled in the last week:

    (premises count in brackets)

    Bray, Co. Wicklow (1290)
    Bruff, Co. Limerick (391)
    Cappamore, Co. Limerick (433)
    Clonlara, Co. Clare (106)
    Cregmore, Co. Galway (229)
    Lisdoonvarna, Co. Clare (356)
    Rathmore, Co. Kerry (274)
    Scotstown, Co. Monaghan (196)
    Williamstown, Co. Galway (200)

    Additional cabinets were enabled in:
    Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo, cab 003 (59)
    Beaufort, Co. Kerry, cab 004 (44)
    Glendalough, Co. Wicklow, cab 002 (76)
    Knock, Co Mayo, cab 002 (143)

    A total of 4,250 premises were enabled in the last week.


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    #2756
    AidenL
    Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    Wing126 wrote: »
    BSZ_E01 is the main exchange. Nearest cabinet to me is BSZ_009. As far as I can see all the cabinets nearby are fibre enabled.

    If I'm marked for intervention under the NBP what does that actually mean?

    Edit: I am marked for Intervention...

    How do you find out that you are marked for intervention?


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    #2757
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    AidenL wrote: »
    How do you find out that you are marked for intervention?

    If you don't currently have 30Mb available to you, you're marked for intervention.


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    #2758
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    ED E wrote: »
    If you don't currently have 30Mb available to you, you're marked for intervention.

    That is hardly the case ...... lots of cabs still to be enabled ...


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    #2759
    damienirel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    That is hardly the case ...... lots of cabs still to be enabled ...
    Yes and lots of blue lines for ftth. NBP will kick in after all of that.


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    #2760
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    That is hardly the case ...... lots of cabs still to be enabled ...

    If you live next door to a half built cab:
    You are currently in an NBP intervention area
    As soon as OpenEir turn that cab on you're removed from the intervention area

    The Dept dont put much stake in Eircom Groups plans, a lesson well learned.


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    #2761
    Copper_pipe
    Registered Users Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Looks like they have done some updates to the FibreRollout map.

    My local exchange to get activated on the 10th of August :)

    Is it wirth ringing Vodafone to put in an order now or should I wait until the 10th?


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