Conor McGregor

Xlami

I'd be very surprised if he didn't headline. Also I'd want him to headline. Anyone remember Cage Warriors 47? The atmosphere after the McGregor fight for the main event was pure ****e. Crowd was drained, and 1/4 had left meant for poor atmosphere for main event. I envisage a similar thing happening here.

MrStuffins

I Love PPPP Longtime wrote: »

Can't see how he would headline tbf. He's only had 2 prelim fights...

Tim Kennedy just headlined a show after just 1 UFC fight.

Gegard Mousasi headlined in his first UFC fight.

The Singapore fight card in a few weeks will have Tarrec Saffedine headlining in HIS first UFC fight.

Be like Nutella

Give him a top 10 FW and he will sell out the O2 singlehandedly in one day if he's headlining ! The buzz leading up to that would be so awesome.

El Guapo!

Be like Nutella wrote: »

Give him a top 10 FW and he will sell out the O2 singlehandedly in one day if he's headlining ! The buzz leading up to that would be so awesome.

Give him Kermit the frog and it'll still sell out.

unknown13

Be like Nutella wrote: »

Give him a top 10 FW and he will sell out the O2 singlehandedly in one day if he's headlining ! The buzz leading up to that would be so awesome.

The 02 has already sold out for UFC quickly before without Mc Gregor and with one Irish fighter on the card in Tom Egan.

This will sell out in a day.

billy2012

MrStuffins wrote: »

Tim Kennedy just headlined a show after just 1 UFC fight.

Gegard Mousasi headlined in his first UFC fight.

The Singapore fight card in a few weeks will have Tarrec Saffedine headlining in HIS first UFC fight.

Big names who have big fights under there belts.

scudzilla

If Conor hadn't have got injured, won maybe 2 more fights then he could have headlined against a Top 5 guy, as it stands though i reckon he'll be the co-main

billy2012

scudzilla wrote: »

If Conor hadn't have got injured, won maybe 2 more fights then he could have headlined against a Top 5 guy, as it stands though i reckon he'll be the co-main

This would of been ideal.

I'd actually prefer for them to put of coming to Ireland till much later in the year to allow Connor to get in a fight or two beforehand so he can be the main event here.

MrStuffins

billy2012 wrote: »

Big names who have big fights under there belts.

Connor is a "big name" too in a way and also the biggest name in MMA in Ireland right now. Makes sense to have him headline here.

Also, Kennedy & Mousasi aren't big names at all. Perhaps to MMA fans but to "UFC" fans, most wouldn't even know who they are!

Kennedy wouldn't have been headlining a card had the special circumstance not been the fact he's a Marine fighting on the Fight for the Troops card. Connor headlining would be similar.

For the record, I don't think he should headline either. I think it would be better to have Connor in a Co-Main.

Be like Nutella

yeah well fair enough it would have been ideal alright if he'd been grand and taken out a couple more guys...but... it is what it is and his media momentum has continued so he'd prob be the first to say strike while the iron is hot whether circumstances are ideal or not, and if he comes back to fitness the way he is intent on then he'll be ripe to headline the Irish UFC return. He's far too mental to allow a little thing like a career threatening injury get in his way : )

Morph the Cat

billy2012 wrote: »

Big names who have big fights under there belts.

Tim Kennedy is a big name?

Dtp1979

Morph the Cat wrote: »

Tim Kennedy is a big name?

Didn't he have a title fight in strikeforce??

Morph the Cat

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Didn't he have a title fight in strikeforce??

And who's heard of Strikeforce, besides hardcore fans? MMA is UFC, whether you agree or not. That's the mainstream perception. The same way pro-wrestling is WWE.

Zero-Cool

I think Fedor would disagree

MrStuffins

sheehy83 wrote: »

I think Fedor would disagree

If you asked 10 "UFC" fans, at most, half of them would've heard of Fedor and less of them would've ever seen him fight.

Also, he made his name in Pride. At the time, big names in Pride wouold've been big names in MMA. But, again, most "UFC" fans would barely know what Pride was either.

scudzilla

MrStuffins wrote: »

If you asked 10 "UFC" fans, at most, half of them would've heard of Fedor and less of them would've ever seen him fight.

Also, he made his name in Pride. At the time, big names in Pride wouold've been big names in MMA. But, again, most "UFC" fans would barely know what Pride was either.

yeah, which is sad

Just goes to show how much the sport (and UFC brand) has exploded over the past 2/3yrs

Still think fedor was overated though (am i really opening that can of worms in this thread?)

Zero-Cool

I just don't think strikeforce fighters should be written off because they werent in the ufc.

Anyway back to conor, surely someone tweeted puff daddy today?

Morph the Cat

sheehy83 wrote: »

I think Fedor would disagree

That makes no sense. He got paid more than he drew in Strikeforce, Affliction, Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye, and Bodog. He essentially put 2 of those promotions out of business due to his high pay packet vs. what he actually drew for them.
He's not a star - sorry. Hardcore fans know him, and some worship him, and yes he was amazing - but most casual MMA fans have never heard of him. You may find this shocking, but you're in a bubble. If that wasn't the case, then Affliction would still be around, having drawn consistent huge PPV numbers. They lost millions on their first 2 shows and were only too happy to cancel the 3rd show.

weemcd

Fuck up about the Fedor stuff already, it's been done to death on this and every other MMA forum.

Morph the Cat

weemcd wrote: »

Fuck up about the Fedor stuff already, it's been done to death on this and every other MMA forum.

You a mod, bro?

El Guapo!

Ah play nice lads!

Be like Nutella

well I'm just gona throw my Fedor comment in for the laugh anyway ; )

at his Peak
Fedor would be a tough challenge to Cain Valasquez now (although I think Cain would beat him 2 out of 3 fights)
and I reckon he would have beaten Junior Dos Santos AND every other HW in the world now - at his peak i.e. 2002 - 2006

His 15 consecutive wins in Pride from June 2002 to end of 2006 which included beating Peak Mark Coleman twice, Peak Big Nog twice and Cro Cop, Hunt and 9 others has him tying with Cain for greatest HW of all time, IMHO.

If Cain beats Werdum and Barnett or Browne then he is the best HW ever but it's not a done deal yet, not for me anyway.

That's my two cents n anyways !

and for anyone interested here is every one of his fights in one video !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqa3-M7yECc

SpaceCowb0y

Am i the only one in Ireland who thinks McGregor come across as a bit simple??

He is undoubtedly a talented fighter but i find all of his interviews quite cringe, he comes across as a real "poor paddy" really making a point label dropping the whole time about things he bought! I mean does anyone really care he has a pair of ray bans now or bought a suit, its not that impressive in fairness? I feel like he is letting it all go to his head now and it will be his downfall... running around making videos the whole time, what happened to stay ready?

Also i thought slating everyone in the division bar Aldo was a really unprofessional thing to do and as much as i hope he goes on to do great things in the sport i think that will come back to haunt him! 1 loss now to a half decent fighter and he will look like a thick after all his mouthing! If he was put in with a decent wrestler next he would be beaten but Dana White and The UFC won't do that yet as they see the money making potential in building him up slowly!

I'm all for making your own publicity to get a name for yourself but in reality he has done **** all yet to be slating UFC veterans! A good hiding will soon set him straight and make him appreciate how hard some of those fighters have worked to be in the position they are for as long as they are! There are hundreds of fightes on the UFC books but only a certain amount are household names and they got that way by kicking ass not running there mouths before they have even proven anything!

Xlami

I will be very surprised of McGregor doesn't headline. Look at the calibre of headliners on UK cards before. Is McGregor gonna be co main event while they try hype up two guys like Struve and miocic on the main event? How do you see those press conferences going? Conor will be main event and don't be surprised to see Normy as co-main.

darced

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scudzilla

darced wrote: »

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I'd go purely because it's in Dublin, i went to every UK/IRE card from 70 through to 93 but have just about given up now because they're charging the same prices as the top U.S cards and giving us much lower standard fighters.

He could well be the main event but i doubt it, co-main is my guess

Mellor

Xlami wrote: »

I will be very surprised of McGregor doesn't headline. .

They had said that they weren't aiming for Conor to headline. And that was before the injury. Selling out the O2 is irrelevant. It will sell out without Conor. And regardless the value for UFC comes from promoting it around the world, not to locals.

Parke will prob appear on the card. And maybe 2 or 3 others have a chance of a call. (TUF 19 dependant)

DrPhilG

scudzilla wrote: »

Ihey're charging the same prices as the top U.S cards and giving us much lower standard fighters.

Ah come on, wee exaggeration?

I've been to 2 top US cards, and the highest tickets were $1000 which at the time was about €750. Went to 99 in Germany and the dearest seats were €270 I think.

I paid around $300 each time for the 2 Vegas events I've been to and they were only about 2 sections better than the nosebleeds.

I agree about the crap cards though, as you know. That and the general mistreatment of European Fight Club fans has long been one of my gripes.

Morph the Cat

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

I'm all for making your own publicity to get a name for yourself

Clearly you're not.

The Clown Man

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Am i the only one in Ireland who thinks McGregor come across as a bit simple??

He is undoubtedly a talented fighter but i find all of his interviews quite cringe, he comes across as a real "poor paddy" really making a point label dropping the whole time about things he bought! I mean does anyone really care he has a pair of ray bans now or bought a suit, its not that impressive in fairness? I feel like he is letting it all go to his head now and it will be his downfall... running around making videos the whole time, what happened to stay ready?

What's the best thing a UFC fighter can do with his time while he's injured?

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Also i thought slating everyone in the division bar Aldo was a really unprofessional thing to do and as much as i hope he goes on to do great things in the sport i think that will come back to haunt him! 1 loss now to a half decent fighter and he will look like a thick after all his mouthing! If he was put in with a decent wrestler next he would be beaten but Dana White and The UFC won't do that yet as they see the money making potential in building him up slowly!

That's the point; he's committed in a way that few dare. Makes for interesting viewing though doesn't it? Hence the love, rise and wealth.

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

I'm all for making your own publicity to get a name for yourself but in reality he has done **** all yet to be slating UFC veterans! A good hiding will soon set him straight and make him appreciate how hard some of those fighters have worked to be in the position they are for as long as they are! There are hundreds of fightes on the UFC books but only a certain amount are household names and they got that way by kicking ass not running there mouths before they have even proven anything!

He is winning the game they are playing and getting paid for it. Good for him.


And I think he'll headline alright, it comes down to this:

Q: Who is the fighter Irish people are most likely to pay money to see?
A: Conor McGregor.

Ray Mond

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Am i the only one in Ireland who thinks McGregor come across as a bit simple??

He is undoubtedly a talented fighter but i find all of his interviews quite cringe, he comes across as a real "poor paddy" really making a point label dropping the whole time about things he bought! I mean does anyone really care he has a pair of ray bans now or bought a suit, its not that impressive in fairness? I feel like he is letting it all go to his head now and it will be his downfall... running around making videos the whole time, what happened to stay ready?

Also i thought slating everyone in the division bar Aldo was a really unprofessional thing to do and as much as i hope he goes on to do great things in the sport i think that will come back to haunt him! 1 loss now to a half decent fighter and he will look like a thick after all his mouthing! If he was put in with a decent wrestler next he would be beaten but Dana White and The UFC won't do that yet as they see the money making potential in building him up slowly!

I'm all for making your own publicity to get a name for yourself but in reality he has done **** all yet to be slating UFC veterans! A good hiding will soon set him straight and make him appreciate how hard some of those fighters have worked to be in the position they are for as long as they are! There are hundreds of fightes on the UFC books but only a certain amount are household names and they got that way by kicking ass not running there mouths before they have even proven anything!

Awful smell of jealousy there. U idiot. Cop on will ye

Be like Nutella

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Am i the only one in Ireland who thinks McGregor come across as a bit simple??

He can't be that simple if what he's doing is clearly working in his favor so you might not be the only one in Ireland but I'd say you're part of a very small minority.

SpaceCowb0y

The Clown Man wrote: »

What's the best thing a UFC fighter can do with his time while he's injured?

That's the point; he's committed in a way that few dare. Makes for interesting viewing though doesn't it? Hence the love, rise and wealth.

He is winning the game they are playing and getting paid for it. Good for him.

And I think he'll headline alright, it comes down to this:

Q: Who is the fighter Irish people are most likely to pay money to see?
A: Conor McGregor.

That's because he is the only Irish fighter on the card and to be honest id much rather go see Anderson Silva vs Anyone/GSP/Any heavyweight title fight then McGregor, even Jose Aldo! I don't think he deserves to headline a card yet, why should he just because he is in Ireland? There are fighters from all around the world in the sport does that mean they too should all headline when they fight at home?

Ray Mond wrote: »

Awful smell of jealousy there. U idiot. Cop on will ye

Good man, solid input right there! No jealousy at all? Jealous of what? I already said I hope he goes on to do great things if you bothered to read my post properly, and i also stated i thought he was a great fighter, there's no denying that i just don't like like his personality? Everyone's entitled to an opinion!

Be like Nutella wrote: »

He can't be that simple if what he's doing is clearly working in his favor so you might not be the only one in Ireland but I'd say you're part of a very small minority.

Yup you're dead right, what he is doing IS working and what i feel he is doing is coming across to American's as their idea of a stereotypical Paddy and the yanks are lapping it up! Spitting, cursing, fighting! Even when Tubridy was interviewing him and don't get me wrong i think Tubridy is a tit but he didnt quite "get" what Conor was on about and half the time he was too busy talking about how flash he looked to notice he was the only one laughing, even the crowd were cringing from what i could see!

SpaceCowb0y

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Good man, solid input right there! No jealousy at all? Jealous of what? I already said I hope he goes on to do great things if you bothered to read my post properly, and i also stated i thought he was a great fighter, there's no denying that i just don't like like his personality? Everyone's entitled to an opinion!

The guy has a fantastic personality for what he's doing, it couldn't be better. This is why 99% of people love him right now, including the press.

You should just be happy and proud we have a competitive guy finally on the scene in the UFC from Ireland, and enjoy it all. Theres plenty to enjoy

SpaceCowb0y

Deleted User wrote: »

The guy has a fantastic personality for what he's doing, it couldn't be better. This is why 99% of people love him right now, including the press.

You should just be happy and proud we have a competitive guy finally on the scene in the UFC from Ireland, and enjoy it all. Theres plenty to enjoy

I'm delighted to see an Irish fighter... and an extremely good Irish fighter at that in the UFC that was never my point! I think Cathal Pendred should be fighting in the UFC to be fair though and i think he comes across much better in any media coverage I've seen him in! I hope he get's the opportunity soon!

MrStuffins

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

That's because he is the only Irish fighter on the card and to be honest id much rather go see Anderson Silva vs Anyone/GSP/Any heavyweight title fight then McGregor, even Jose Aldo! I don't think he deserves to headline a card yet, why should he just because he is in Ireland? There are fighters from all around the world in the sport does that mean they too should all headline when they fight at home?

Well, yeah. Why not? It's good business.

When you're trying to build a market, having a popular fighter to headline the show is a huge bonus. We've had UK shows headlined by Bisping, Swedish shows headlined by Swedes, Australian shows headlined by Aussies, Brazilian shows headlined by Brazilians.

Having McGregor headline will serve many purposes. It will sell tickets, it will get a lot of attention in the media, it will grow the Irish MMA fanbase, it will boost the profile of and promote one of the UFC's most marketable and hyped fighters.

DrPhilG

I wouldn't have issue with McGregor headlining as such, but the problem is bigger than that.

If an event is headlined by a guy outside the top 10 and only 2-0 in the UFC, what kind of slop are they going to fill the rest of the card with?

But as I've said before and everyone seems to be ignoring, Dana has said on a number of occasions that Conor WILL NOT headline in Dublin.

SpaceCowb0y

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well, yeah. Why not? It's good business.

When you're trying to build a market, having a popular fighter to headline the show is a huge bonus. We've had UK shows headlined by Bisping, Swedish shows headlined by Swedes, Australian shows headlined by Aussies, Brazilian shows headlined by Brazilians.

Having McGregor headline will serve many purposes. It will sell tickets, it will get a lot of attention in the media, it will grow the Irish MMA fanbase, it will boost the profile of and promote one of the UFC's most marketable and hyped fighters.

True but how many fights had Bisping had in the UFC before he headlined in the UK? He was a household name from going through TUF straight into the big leagues! McGregor has still only fought in the prelims so far? How many fights have Aldo, Silva etc all had to prove themselves before headlining! That's a massive skip the queue job if he all of a sudden got a main event!

DrPhilG wrote: »

If an event is headlined by a guy outside the top 10 and only 2-0 in the UFC, what kind of slop are they going to fill the rest of the card with?

THIS +1

As i said earlier too, stick him in with a good wrestler... Mendes or Edgar would go through him IMO! All the ****e talk backfires after you get taught a lesson by someone you slated! You should be humble on the way up, run your mouth when you have cleaned house at the top!

MrStuffins

DrPhilG wrote: »

I wouldn't have issue with McGregor headlining as such, but the problem is bigger than that.

If an event is headlined by a guy outside the top 10 and only 2-0 in the UFC, what kind of slop are they going to fill the rest of the card with?

But as I've said before and everyone seems to be ignoring, Dana has said on a number of occasions that Conor WILL NOT headline in Dublin.

We're gonna get a slop card in any case! Connor in the co-main, and some sort of match up of Journeymen in the Main event. I'd half expect Rich Franklin to be fighting Brandon Vera or somehting.

SpaceCowb0y

MrStuffins wrote: »

We're gonna get a slop card in any case! Connor in the co-main, and some sort of match up of Journeymen in the Main event. I'd half expect Rich Franklin to be fighting Brandon Vera or somehting.

Fuck paying 250+ snots for that card so!

threeball

Deleted User wrote: »

The guy has a fantastic personality for what he's doing, it couldn't be better. This is why 99% of people love him right now, including the press.

You should just be happy and proud we have a competitive guy finally on the scene in the UFC from Ireland, and enjoy it all. Theres plenty to enjoy

If he was English you'd be calling him an arrogant twat.

He's the Irish version of Dan Hardy until he proves otherwise.

SpaceCowb0y

threeball wrote: »

If he was English you'd be calling him an arrogant twat.

Fact! Nailed it!

stiffler123

The Clown Man wrote: »

And I think he'll headline alright, it comes down to this:

Q: Who is the fighter Irish people are most likely to pay money to see?
A: Conor McGregor.

I like Conor and I hope he does well, but there are a lot of fighters that I would like to see fight live instead of him.

Xlami

DrPhilG wrote: »

I wouldn't have issue with McGregor headlining as such, but the problem is bigger than that.

If an event is headlined by a guy outside the top 10 and only 2-0 in the UFC, what kind of slop are they going to fill the rest of the card with?

But as I've said before and everyone seems to be ignoring, Dana has said on a number of occasions that Conor WILL NOT headline in Dublin.

This card will not be to far off a Cage Warriors standard except 5 times the price. The fans will pay for the brand. The UFC is akin to Panadol here. There will be no less than 4 Irish guys on this card. Could be as many as 7. And no more than 1 fighter inside the top 10. People will cry and moan about it all day long but they're the facts. I'm open to admit I might be wrong but I would be very very surprised.

Billy86

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

That's because he is the only Irish fighter on the card and to be honest id much rather go see Anderson Silva vs Anyone/GSP/Any heavyweight title fight then McGregor, even Jose Aldo! I don't think he deserves to headline a card yet, why should he just because he is in Ireland? There are fighters from all around the world in the sport does that mean they too should all headline when they fight at home?

Hate to disappoint, but you're not going to see a name like that in a card like Dublin, not at this stage at least.

SpaceCowb0y

Billy86 wrote: »

Hate to disappoint, but you're not going to see a name like that in a card like Dublin, not at this stage at least.

Ah of course i know this, i was just using it as an example when someone said who would Irish people most like to see fight?I could think of a lot of fighters i've been watching for a long time who i'd like to see fight before McGregor if i had the choice!

Be like Nutella

Xlami wrote: »

There will be no less than 4 Irish guys on this card. Could be as many as 7

who dya reckon?

Paddy Holohan, Pendred, Killing Fields (STILL most hilarious yet un-PC name out there), Conor, Ais the Bash?, Roddy? eh your man from Lucan MMA Henry Fadipe? Obviously the Northern lad can't think his name off UK v Ozz TUF - Stormin Norman that's it... who dyez reckon will be on the Dublin card, prelims or whatever?

MrStuffins

Be like Nutella wrote: »

who dya reckon?

Paddy Holohan, Pendred, Killing Fields (STILL most hilarious yet un-PC name out there), Conor, Ais the Bash?, Roddy? eh your man from Lucan MMA Henry Fadipe? Obviously the Northern lad can't think his name off UK v Ozz TUF - Stormin Norman that's it... who dyez reckon will be on the Dublin card, prelims or whatever?

Neil Seery?

Be like Nutella

yeahh won 6 of last 7 KO's and Subs all over the shop... didn't realize he was a Flyweight actually, ah I'd say he prob can do either 125 or 135??

Be like Nutella

J.M.S. or Tommy Don Frye Quinn?