Conor McGregor

SevereMMA

Be like Nutella wrote: »

who dya reckon?

Paddy Holohan, Pendred, Killing Fields (STILL most hilarious yet un-PC name out there), Conor, Ais the Bash?, Roddy? eh your man from Lucan MMA Henry Fadipe? Obviously the Northern lad can't think his name off UK v Ozz TUF - Stormin Norman that's it... who dyez reckon will be on the Dublin card, prelims or whatever?

Owen Roddy is retired. Announced it on Severe last week.

Think it's really make or break with this Gomez fight for Neil Seery next month

I suspect Norman will be on the card

I doubt the 115lb women's division will in the UFC by then but you never know.

scudzilla

SevereMMA wrote: »

Owen Roddy is retired. Announced it on Severe last week.

Think it's really make or break with this Gomez fight for Neil Seery next month

I suspect Norman will be on the card

I doubt the 115lb women's division will in the UFC by then but you never know.

What weight did Ais fight Rosy at?

SevereMMA

scudzilla wrote: »

What weight did Ais fight Rosy at?

125lbs but Ais is planning on 115 i believe

darced

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scudzilla

darced wrote: »

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Bisping headlining it is so :rolleyes::rolleyes:

DerpKehoe

scudzilla wrote: »

Bisping headlining it is so :rolleyes::rolleyes:

What would be wrong with that? More than likely mean a top 10 clash to main event which would be better than most fghts we could get

scudzilla

DerpKehoe wrote: »

What would be wrong with that? More than likely mean a top 10 clash to main event which would be better than most fghts we could get

If you've been into MMA for any length of time you'd get pissed off wit Bisping being wheeled out at nearly every UK event, if he aint fighting he's doing the Q&A

scudzilla

DrPhilG wrote: »

Ah come on, wee exaggeration?

I've been to 2 top US cards, and the highest tickets were $1000 which at the time was about €750. Went to 99 in Germany and the dearest seats were €270 I think.

I paid around $300 each time for the 2 Vegas events I've been to and they were only about 2 sections better than the nosebleeds.

I agree about the crap cards though, as you know. That and the general mistreatment of European Fight Club fans has long been one of my gripes.

Should have rephrased my post, We pay the same, if not more than most numbered U.S events outside Vegas.

And compare the UK Fight Night prices to U.S Fight Night prices, it's nearly double the price over here, yet still the sheep buy the tickets

Mellor

MrStuffins wrote: »

When you're trying to build a market, having a popular fighter to headline the show is a huge bonus. We've had UK shows headlined by Bisping, Swedish shows headlined by Swedes, Australian shows headlined by Aussies, Brazilian shows headlined by Brazilians.

Bisping was on 3 UK cards before he headlined, and by then he was a big name.
The brazilian cards are headlined by the likes Maia, Belfort (repeatedly), or the champs Silva & Aldo.
The Australians cards weren't headlines by aussies. From memory it was Cain v Nog, Penn v Fitch, and Alves Kampmann. The exception being the Smashes finale.
Australia is a pretty good example, the markets are similar and I'd expect a similar card. Hopefully its more like the inital numbered events.

Having McGregor headline will serve many purposes. It will sell tickets, it will get a lot of attention in the media, it will grow the Irish MMA fanbase, it will boost the profile of and promote one of the UFC's most marketable and hyped fighters.

?How can people keep saying it will sell tickets?
There won't be a single extra ticket sold if Conor headlines. Even if he doesn't appear it will be the same sales.

Don't get me wrong, he'll do some great media days, and promo work for the event. He'll hype the whole card, and he could well be key to making this a numbered event due to transatlantic interest. But generating tickets sales with the locals is not relevant.

Be like Nutella wrote: »

Paddy Holohan, Pendred, Killing Fields (STILL most hilarious yet un-PC name out there), Conor, Ais the Bash?, Roddy? eh your man from Lucan MMA Henry Fadipe? Obviously the Northern lad can't think his name off UK v Ozz TUF - Stormin Norman that's it... who dyez reckon will be on the Dublin card, prelims or whatever?

Conor..Yes
Norman...Yes
Pendred...Probably, depending on TUF 19 timing and progress
Fields... As above
Paddy...Maybe. If he isn't called up he should still stay ready as a replacement.
Ais... No, she is two divisions below.
Roddy...No. Retired
Henry...Not yet at that level imo.

The person who speculated 7 could appear on the card was a bit optimistic.

Xlami

Mellor wrote: »

Australia is a pretty good example, the markets are similar and I'd expect a similar card. Hopefully its more like the inital numbered

The person who speculated 7 could appear on the card was a bit optimistic.

Don't see a similar approach to Australlia as they have a much larger market. As you say the O2 would sell out regardless. So why waste a fight that can be used on a PPV for this card. This card would sell out if there was 22 guys making their debuts. The fans are thirsty for the brand.

And as for 7 it's optimistic but not unrealistic. Conor and Norman are certs.

Chris and Cathal will both be figuring on a UFC card this year.

If Seery beats Gomez I think he's s offered a fight.

Holohan has a great chance if getting on the card.

If Redser can win on NYE and then after training in alliance I think he's a great chance of being on the card.

Then there's a few with an outside chance like Philpott.

I would also like to see Gunni on the card. So it'll be similar enough to a lot of cards that have been on here before except larger crowds and tickets will be 4 times to cost.

DeVore

Being so close to England this will sell out regardless tbh.

darced

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Be like Nutella

don't care about the international quality or top 10's on the card just wana see Irish lads get a shout personally coz the buzz would be bananas

Gumbi

Be like Nutella wrote: »

don't care about the international quality or top 10's on the card just wana see Irish lads get a shout personally coz the buzz would be bananas

Having been to my first MMA event a week or so ago (Battlezone 9) I can only confirm this. A UFC event would be that x 10. It'd be insane.

Arawn

Gumbi wrote: »

Having been to my first MMA event a week or so ago (Battlezone 9) I can only confirm this. A UFC event would be that x 10. It'd be insane.

You would be surprised

Be like Nutella

UFC 93

from 0:15

Gotta Love it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XdcBrdw-bk

Ray Mond

Arawn wrote: »

You would be surprised

Why? I was at ufc in sweden and the place erupted when the swedish guy came out against Mousasi. Its was unbelievable. So can ye imagine the o2 when Conor would come out

scudzilla

Ray Mond wrote: »

Why? I was at ufc in sweden and the place erupted when the swedish guy came out against Mousasi. Its was unbelievable. So can ye imagine the o2 when Conor would come out

yep, the welcome Marcus Davies got at 93 and he's a plastic paddy!!, Tom Egan also got a huge welcome.

Going back to Belfast for 72 and the roof came off when Big Col Robinson and Stevie Lynch came in, oh for an extra minute in the 1sdt round of Colins fight, he would have won

Mellor

Xlami wrote: »

Don't see a similar approach to Australlia as they have a much larger market.

Sure they've a much larger population as a country as a whole. But NSW (where most were held is about the same pop as RoI & NI). You have to take the size of the place into account, interstate fans might as well be in a different country. Perth fans are a 4 or 5 hours flight away, NT further. That's like most european cites are closer than that to Dublin. Even Melbourne is sydney is the same as Dublin-London.

As you say the O2 would sell out regardless. So why waste a fight that can be used on a PPV for this card. This card would sell out if there was 22 guys making their debuts. The fans are thirsty for the brand.

Because its not about selling tickets. PPV is the earner,
UFC 93 did $1,300,000 gate.
Buy rate was $350,000, at $50 a pop thats like $17,500,000

They can push Conor/Ireland in the US a lot better than Manchester, or Stolkholm. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I think it'll be a good card. Maybe a PPV.

Conor and Norman are certs.

Agree.

Chris and Cathal will both be figuring on a UFC card this year.

My TUF dependent, I meant the finale might not have aired by may, if either make it they'd be out of a dublin card. If they get knocked out they'll probably be on it.

If Seery beats Gomez I think he's s offered a fight.

Holohan has a great chance if getting on the card.

If Redser can win on NYE and then after training in alliance I think he's a great chance of being on the card.

Then there's a few with an outside chance like Philpott.

Paddy has the best chance here imo.

Mellor

Prob the only one, but I'm hoping Conor isn't ready by May and the event is pushed back to 3rd quarter, say September.
Mainly because I don't want to see a rushed recovery, and also I'll be in Ireland later in the year. Obviously not wishing him any badness or anything, still feels a bit bad hoping for longer wait though.

Mr. Manager

Mellor wrote: »

Prob the only one, but I'm hoping Conor isn't ready by May and the event is pushed back to 3rd quarter, say September.
Mainly because I don't want to see a rushed recovery, and also I'll be in Ireland later in the year. Obviously not wishing him any badness or anything, still feels a bit bad hoping for longer wait though.

+1 to this.

I'll be home in October so hopefully it's on then. Not arsed making 2 trips home next year

JoeyJJ

I hope he is ready soon and fights April at latest, he will prob want another fight be Sept. Don't want him getting rusty. If it is going as well as he says that is.

dave1982

Still hoping for Connor V Jeremy Stephens fight:D

Billy86

Mellor wrote: »

Sure they've a much larger population as a country as a whole. But NSW (where most were held is about the same pop as RoI & NI). You have to take the size of the place into account, interstate fans might as well be in a different country. Perth fans are a 4 or 5 hours flight away, NT further. That's like most european cites are closer than that to Dublin. Even Melbourne is sydney is the same as Dublin-London.

This is true, but they do have a far larger fan culture behind it because most of the PPV events are on Sunday afternoons over there and on in the majority of pubs. From about October - March the NRL and AFL are out of season also which gives very little for the UFC to compete with in those timeslots.

There's also the fact that the NSW/ACT have a combined population of about 7.5mn, most of which is within a 5-6 hour drive of Sydney (which to Australians isn't all that long).

Of course as you brought up PPVs, and that is where we have an advantage over Australia in relation to our timezones and the USA's.

Mellor

Billy86 wrote: »

This is true, but they do have a far larger fan culture behind it because most of the PPV events are on Sunday afternoons over there and on in the majority of pubs. From about October - March the NRL and AFL are out of season also which gives very little for the UFC to compete with in those timeslots.

Sunday morning, starting at 10am or 12pm (depending on daylight savings) so NFL and AFL aren't are in those slots during season any way.
It's definite more accessible in Oz and more of a social sport due to timing. It will pick up casual viewers in that way but I don't necessarily think that it means there's more fans who would be willing to go see it.

FWIW Depending on the pub, a hug number of the fans will be Irish.

There's also the fact that the NSW/ACT have a combined population of about 7.5mn, most of which is within a 5-6 hour drive of Sydney (which to Australians isn't all that long).

That was exactly my point. The markets are very similar.
NSW/ACT 7.5 million within driving distance.
Ireland (RoI/NI) 6.4 million within driving distance.

Like I said, very similar markets.

Of course as you brought up PPVs, and that is where we have an advantage over Australia in relation to our timezones and the USA's.

Not really. Australian events are on Sunday morning local time also. Same routine for locals, and same time on Saturday in US. There's no change from normal events.

That's the biggest obstacle for euro cards imo.
Pushing the euro start back lessens the impact.

Xlami

Mellor wrote: »

That's the biggest obstacle for euro cards imo.
Pushing the euro start back lessens the impact.

Just wondering and these times aren't perfect but say roughly UK and Ireland cards start at half 6 til 11 Irish time. Half 1 til 6 Eastern time. Is there anything to stop the UFC making the cards half 9 til 2 Irish time; which is 4 til half 9 eastern time.

Is this possible or does compromise suit neither Europe or US?

Mellor

Xlami wrote: »

Just wondering and these times aren't perfect but say roughly UK and Ireland cards start at half 6 til 11 Irish time. Half 1 til 6 Eastern time. Is there anything to stop the UFC making the cards half 9 til 2 Irish time; which is 4 til half 9 eastern time.

Is this possible or does compromise suit neither Europe or US?

That's roughly what I was thinking by pushing them back, 8 to 1 even.
I don't think irish/european culture has an issue with it being later. Out until 2,3,4am is pretty standard. There might be a concern that later start = drunker fans, but i'm not sure its an issue, I'm sure plenty of shorter start at 8 or 9.

There might be noise issues with the council, but its a fairly industrial area so should be grand.

rolexeagle1

Mellor wrote: »

That's roughly what I was thinking by pushing them back, 8 to 1 even.
I don't think irish/european culture has an issue with it being later. Out until 2,3,4am is pretty standard. There might be a concern that later start = drunker fans, but i'm not sure its an issue, I'm sure plenty of shorter start at 8 or 9.

There might be noise issues with the council, but its a fairly industrial area so should be grand.

Don't think they are allowed to have anything on in the o2 past like 11.30 or something. That many people spilling out onto the streets at 2/3am doubt they would allow it. It probaly wont be a PPV anyway

Mr. Manager

srumball wrote: »

Don't think they are allowed to have anything on in the o2 past like 11.30 or something. That many people spilling out onto the streets at 2/3am doubt they would allow it. It probaly wont be a PPV anyway

God forbid people might try and go to the pubs/clubs that are already closed

Xlami

Cole Miller Vs. Sam Sicilia early January. Miller likes to stay active if he wins this wonder if he'll look for Conor again.

http://themmareport.com/2013/11/ufc-fight-night-35-set-for-january-15th-in-atlanta/

Billy86

Mellor wrote: »

Sunday morning, starting at 10am or 12pm (depending on daylight savings) so NFL and AFL aren't are in those slots during season any way.
It's definite more accessible in Oz and more of a social sport due to timing. It will pick up casual viewers in that way but I don't necessarily think that it means there's more fans who would be willing to go see it.

FWIW Depending on the pub, a hug number of the fans will be Irish.

Do you now which timezone in the US that is on - east or west coast?

Just curious since I remember going into Churchills in Kingsford a few times around 1-3 and seeing it on (if you're ever there, the bakey with the crazy-looking Vietnamese guy and the chicken in the Korean BBQ chicken place are outrageously tasty, across the road just by IGA).

Trust me I know - I spent the guts of my time there avoiding Scruffy's, the Tea Gardens, Cock and Bull, etc like the plague.

Also didn't know that about Australian cards being on in the morning over there, they only had one when I was over. Still, they're such a morning bunch it might work to an extent but still I think would hurt the atmosphere a bit.

OrgasmicBaz

Xlami wrote: »

Cole Miller Vs. Sam Sicilia early January. Miller likes to stay active if he wins this wonder if he'll look for Conor again.

http://themmareport.com/2013/11/ufc-fight-night-35-set-for-january-15th-in-atlanta/

Hope Miller wins this, he is a big enough scalp for Conor early on in his UFC career

Mellor

Billy86 wrote: »

Do you now which timezone in the US that is on - east or west coast?

Just curious since I remember going into Churchills in Kingsford a few times around 1-3 and seeing it on (if you're ever there, the bakey with the crazy-looking Vietnamese guy and the chicken in the Korean BBQ chicken place are outrageously tasty, across the road just by IGA).

Not sure about the US timezone what ever the normal time is for UFC events.
I know churchhills well, I used to live behind it.

Trust me I know - I spent the guts of my time there avoiding Scruffy's, the Tea Gardens, Cock and Bull, etc like the plague.

Haven't watched one in scruffys, but I quite like TeaGardens for fights, lots of screens and the sound is up

Also didn't know that about Australian cards being on in the morning over there, they only had one when I was over. Still, they're such a morning bunch it might work to an extent but still I think would hurt the atmosphere a bit.

I think evening cards would be better for athmosphere, but the morning isn't bad simply because its routine.
Basically you watch the UFC and then go for pints. Also by the time the ME is on, you've most of a session drank.

Billy86

Tea Gardens can be handy for that, I just hate the whole Bondi Jn area in general really, too many people in denial that they're in another country, ha! Cheers would probably be another good bet?

Think I know the street you mean behind Churchills, small world - we were at the top of Meeks Street - absolute nightmare to tackle on after work on a humid day.

billy2012

Just saw an interview where Connor states he is looking for one (easy) fight before he fights in Dublin in a 'meaningful fight'.

The easy fight he wants is Sanchez at 155;)

dave1982

UFC won't allow it Diego would shred him

gallag

Diego would unleash the yes cartwheel from hell.

omeatheopian

Himself and Norman Parke were having a go at eachother on Twitter yesterday. Started by Conor of course.....

billy2012

omeatheopian wrote: »

Himself and Norman Parke were having a go at eachother on Twitter yesterday. Started by Conor of course.....

What did Conor get in trouble for?? Something he tweeted?

DrPhilG

omeatheopian wrote: »

Himself and Norman Parke were having a go at eachother on Twitter yesterday. Started by Conor of course.....

Anyone care to summarise for us twitter-phobes?

bigwormbundoran

Ash.J.Williams

idiocy

califano

I find myself reading Normans comments with a blocked nose nordie accent:D

MrStuffins

The more Connor antics I hear about the more he comes across as that mouthy fella in your class in school who could beat up the other kids so he preyed on it. Not quite a bully, but not too far off it.

pablohoney87

To be fair that one just seems like some good hearted jokin to me.

Ray Mond

I think a lot of people copped that norman was throwing a few shots that he never threw before that conor has been throwing. A couple of times he changed his stance throughout the fight to the way conor stands. Always taut that dana wouldnt match these up but yhe more I think about it it could probably happen. Maybe in Dublin. The biggest 2 names in ireland. Honestly think Conor would make easy work of him. Destroy him actually. Normans a decent fighter but just dont think he could ever trouble top10-15 LW. I see hes asking for Barboza. He would be finished early if he got that fight IMO.

MrStuffins

Ray Mond wrote: »

I think a lot of people copped that norman was throwing a few shots that he never threw before that conor has been throwing. A couple of times he changed his stance throughout the fight to the way conor stands. Always taut that dana wouldnt match these up but yhe more I think about it it could probably happen. Maybe in Dublin. The biggest 2 names in ireland. Honestly think Conor would make easy work of him. Destroy him actually. Normans a decent fighter but just dont think he could ever trouble top10-15 LW. I see hes asking for Barboza. He would be finished early if he got that fight IMO.

Conor should stay where he is at 145 tbh.

Ray Mond

MrStuffins wrote: »

Conor should stay where he is at 145 tbh.

I prefer him at 145 aswell. But he said hed like his 1st fight back at 155. But sean shelby isnt having any of it. I like Brandao for him next after Pea head Poirier beats him. Think its a step back for poirier tbh and he should beat Brandao. Think Conor would stop him also . Then a top 10 maybe even Poirier. That fight is inevitable anyway.

SRFC

Ray Mond wrote: »

I think a lot of people copped that norman was throwing a few shots that he never threw before that conor has been throwing. A couple of times he changed his stance throughout the fight to the way conor stands. Always taut that dana wouldnt match these up but yhe more I think about it it could probably happen. Maybe in Dublin. The biggest 2 names in ireland. Honestly think Conor would make easy work of him. Destroy him actually. Normans a decent fighter but just dont think he could ever trouble top10-15 LW. I see hes asking for Barboza. He would be finished early if he got that fight IMO.

Bahahahahah hes asking for Edson Barboza?? they may book his ambulance for about 3 minutes into the fight he would be literally kicked around the octagon.

Mr. Manager

Barboza would kick the legs off Conor in the first round. Terrible fight for him.