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New Three [business] Sim-Only: 3,000 mins, 3,000 texts and 15Gb data: €20

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  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭tyreman1


    What were you expecting for going over your allowance, Gold Watch, Bitcoins, Tickets to Robbie Williams? :confused:

    "That " should have been "the"

    It was usually €100-€120 over


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭tyreman1


    What were you expecting for going over your allowance, Gold Watch, Bitcoins, Tickets to Robbie Williams? :confused:

    I should have outlined the fact I'm on an unlimited calls & texts, with unlimited data package.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    ToadVine wrote: »
    How do you know that "most Android phones will happily jump from Three to Voda and back again"?

    Or maybe you just are a member of "talking thro your hole Utd"?

    As I said before, both myself and many, many other people have had big problems with Three.

    My advice for anyone thinking of getting this deal is to just read through the "Talk to Three" forums here on boards and make a decision then.

    Relatively few of Three's customers have complaints.The number that complain on Boards is a tiny percentage of their customer base. How do I know most Android phones jump etc,.... well its my job to know:cool:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus



    The pity is that more voip's like Virgin would'nt come here. Irish network customers are being fleeced in comparision to UK customers. The only bonus here is webtexts. These are/were not available in UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭deadimmortal


    Relatively few of Three's customers have complaints.The number that complain on Boards is a tiny percentage of their customer base. How do I know most Android phones jump etc,.... well its my job to know:cool:.

    I'm with three for 2 years now, I got my partner and friend to move to Three also, their customer care is very scripted but they are very good at what they do, I never had any major issues with them. Their data network went down a few months ago for a couple of hours and they even refunded me for the time it was down. Will defo be staying with them.

    One thing did annoy me though, they ceased the data therdering from smart phones on the prepay plans. But as someone else mentioned, it can be easily reactivated using a jailbreak on the iphone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Relatively few of Three's customers have complaints.The number that complain on Boards is a tiny percentage of their customer base. How do I know most Android phones jump etc,.... well its my job to know:cool:.


    And let's not forget, many of Boards users are more tech savvy and definitely more vocal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 659 ✭✭✭ToadVine


    Below (see links) are a selection of the "relatively few" Three customers (obviously "moaners") who have had problems. These threads are from within the last 30 days !!!! There are a variety of problems ranging from the inability to switch from Voda Edge back to Three's 3G, to poor connectivity, and a whole lot of other issues. Anyone thinking of switching to Three should read through these threads ... and remember that the last reply on these threads has been within the last 30 days.

    The following post also makes interesting reading ... originally posted by Sponge Bob yesterday ... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=84069867&postcount=1
    Problems have been reported from Donegal to Wexford and all points in between over the past few weeks. I understand that 3 is abandoning QUITE a number of masts this year, in some cases three will move to masts right next door or a short diatance away and in some cases they won't.


    Again, I would advise anyone thinking of switching to Three to beware.

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056874037

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056874037/3

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056920299

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056921144

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056836488

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056897580

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056257057

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056857211

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056918700

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056918332

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056913394

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056879849

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056917073

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056855849

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056879799

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056916162

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056771029

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056903701

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056903457

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056911179

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056910373

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056908216

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056876380

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056906511

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056892324

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056902713

    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056860589


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    Are you from Moaners Utd by any chance?:D:D:D I totally disagree with your insinuation that Three should be avoided. They have their reception problems just like all the networks have. Most Android phones will happily jump from Three to Voda and back again without any problems.My phone actually jumps to Voda 3g quite happily and back again when it picks up the Three signal.

    What makes you think that Three customers only use Androids? What makes you think that customers that experience problems are moaners? Using your train of thought, customers shouldn't complain if they are experiencing problems & be content in the knowledge that your phone jumps wherever it jumps & back again, which would make them morons? It's not a case of anyone being a moaner or a moron.

    Relatively few of Three's customers have complaints.The number that complain on Boards is a tiny percentage of their customer base. How do I know most Android phones jump etc,.... well its my job to know. :cool:

    Where are you sourcing your stats regarding Three's customer complaints & what makes you think that the only Three customers that have complaints register on boards.ie to make their complaints? It's more likely that the majority of complaints go to the customer care line.

    Leaving all that aside, yes, of course all networks have problems - I don't think anyone is disputing that, or that the nature of such a forum is mainly one filled with posts by customers who are experiencing problems & therefore complaining about these problems & seeking customer care in getting them resolved. Whether you care to admit it or not, that's what customer care is all about.

    It's how a network deal with customer complaints that is the real measure of how good they are & how well they value their customers. Even if, as you seem to think judging by your posts, that the Talk to Three forum is the sole means by which customers that are experiencing problems seek customer care, it seems to me that customers with major problems (not minor ones such as settings, SIM cards, top-up problems, unlocks etc) are given the runaround, brought to PM for non account specific matters, being forced into performing endless repetitive tests, resets & fiddling around with microsims until they either give up or their contract expires.

    Three also regularly refuse to admit that there are system & network problems regarding certain issues, when it is perfectly obvious that there are, especially when there are multiple occurances of the same issues, some dragging on unresolved for months & in certain cases years (until customers have reached end of contract & fled for their own sanity). You don't need me to tell you which issues these are as they are well documented on the forum itself. So, using the Talk to Three forum as any sort of indication of lack of problems is a bit contradictory to say the least.

    That's why I suggested that anyone thinking of switching to Three should get a prepay SIM first, so as to test that the network works for them in all aspects of their lifestyle. Doing this will help ensure that hopefully they won't experience any major problems & be stuck in a contract for months & months with nothing but an expensive paperweight or unuseable SIM with a Three logo on it to show for their depleting bank accounts, loss of phone number & having got to recognise ComReg's staff names without them having to tell you.

    PS : There's no need to reply with multiple repetitive emotions or smilies, unless of course you just can't resist ( my teenage kids have that habit also, so I do understand what ye're like).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    This looks like a great deal and adds to my dilemma of whether to switch to sim only.

    I'm with three at the moment and pay €40 a month but I got in when tethering was allowed so I can still use it. To be honest, I only need to tether about once or twice a month but is it worth paying the €20 it's costing me to stay on my current plan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    This looks like a great deal and adds to my dilemma of whether to switch to sim only.

    I'm with three at the moment and pay €40 a month but I got in when tethering was allowed so I can still use it. To be honest, I only need to tether about once or twice a month but is it worth paying the €20 it's costing me to stay on my current plan?
    It turns out that the specific plan mentioned in the OP is for business customers only, but another poster who's 'in the know' says that Three are soon advertise a new plan similar to the business plan. As yet there is no official confirmation of this, so at this point it's all conjecture.

    Even if they don't the €20.33 SIM only plan is good value. If you don't really need the ability to tether all you'd really lose is that (& the unlimited landline freebie if you had it & haven't already lost it), plus of course an upgraded handset, for a €20 a month saving on what you're already on. I know if I was in your position & happy with Three I'd be changing to that if nothing better came along.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,926 ✭✭✭Soarer


    This looks like a great deal and adds to my dilemma of whether to switch to sim only.

    I'm with three at the moment and pay €40 a month but I got in when tethering was allowed so I can still use it. To be honest, I only need to tether about once or twice a month but is it worth paying the €20 it's costing me to stay on my current plan?

    You could buy a wireless dongle on contract from any of the providers and use that instead, obviously depending on the amount of data you use.
    With Meteor you can get 1gb per month for €8.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Thanks for that. That seems the way to go alright. As I said, it's only occasionally I end up having to tether and I'm not downloading large files or anything so even if I have buy 3 one day passes at €3 a pop (and 3 times would be rare), ill still be saving a tenner a month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭riggsfitz


    god's toy wrote: »
    I know technically you can't use hotspot/tethering with new contracts on three but I wonder if this will be enforced with this new deal?
    ...been on the sim only (32 odd euro I think) plan for years.

    god's toy that sim only plan for 350 flex unit, ayce data etc is now only 20.33 a month. Suggest you get in contact with a rep and ask to be moved onto the new price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭god's toy


    riggsfitz wrote: »
    god's toy that sim only plan for 350 flex unit, ayce data etc is now only 20.33 a month. Suggest you get in contact with a rep and ask to be moved onto the new price.

    Really? Wow that's a nice drop! Is that for good or just a 'short term' offer like the eircom ad?

    Have my deal from the time we could use tethering hmm don't want to lose that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,662 ✭✭✭Luckycharms_74


    kn wrote: »
    Is it just me or is o2 just not at the races anymore when it comes to their plans? Why is anyone still with them? There was a suggestion that o2 Ireland could be on the market shortly as Telefonica is looking to ditch its worst performing operations to reduce their debt mountain. 3 were mentioned as a potential buyer.

    O2 are light years behind others with their archaic plans. They offer minutes & texts > data, which in today's world the majority of people use Data & VOIP for calls & messages (Viber, whatsapp, etc).
    I was with O2 from 1997 to 2012, but when they offered me a sh1ttier price plan then the one I was currently on at the time & they wouldn't budge on the data offerings I moved to another provider. I haven't looked back since :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭deadimmortal


    Free Three sim, as one of the guys mentioned above test it before you buy.

    http://www.three.ie/online/shop/DeviceListing.aspx?tf=PrePay&p=voice&manuf=Three

    They also just reduced the cost of their iPhone 5 from €169 to €129 today on the €40 a month plan.

    Anyone considering moving to bill pay with three can get one months free if refered by a friend, the friend gets one month free too. PM me if you are moving and we both can get a month free :)

    http://www.three.ie/deals/refer-a-friend.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    The offer is a minimum of two sims on their business package. €20 each per month plus VAT @ 23% = €49.20 a month!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,926 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Who'd have thought that the Sunday Business Post would recommend a sim-only plan for business, huh?!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Hi All,

    Is there any catch for this offer ?

    I am currently on emobiles €50 per month ( I know they have a better deal at moment) all inclusive (mins, texts, data), but this knocks the socks off anything available and its hard to understand how the offer can be so low!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭RaggyDays


    Well if this Package is for real then Three have declared all out war with the other networks :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭kn


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Is there any catch for this offer ?

    I am currently on emobiles €50 per month ( I know they have a better deal at moment) all inclusive (mins, texts, data), but this knocks the socks off anything available and its hard to understand how the offer can be so low!

    I don't think this offer is available yet. My understanding of the OP is that this was mentioned in the SBP as an offer coming up. Other posters are mixing this up with the Business SIM only offer which is €20 excl VAT but that offer has other bells and whistles attached like free UK calls etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    kn wrote: »
    I don't think this offer is available yet. My understanding of the OP is that this was mentioned in the SBP as an offer coming up. Other posters are mixing this up with the Business SIM only offer which is €20 excl VAT but that offer has other bells and whistles attached like free UK calls etc.

    I had it clarified here, http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056921179/1, that the offer referred to in the SBP was the sim only Business Plan. It appears that there is no other plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭ccull123


    Should a mod not close this post ALREADY?? It's been getting mixed up for the last few days!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭kn


    I had it clarified here, http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056921179/1, that the offer referred to in the SBP was the sim only Business Plan. It appears that there is no other plan.

    No other plan available yet. I do not think the 3 reps can comment on something they may not even be aware of yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    kn wrote: »
    No other plan available yet. I do not think the 3 reps can comment on something they may not even be aware of yet.

    My feeling is that, as is often the case with that paper, the SBP article was written some time ago and well before publication. By coincidence Three released their new plan around the same time, and this has caused the confusion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭goz83


    ToadVine wrote: »
    Also, Three DO NOT allow tethering for non business customers.

    Not so sure about that mate. I signed up with Three a year ago in my own name, but with the intention of giving the phone to my secretary for company use and specifically for tethering, which was successful. Never had a problem using the iPhone 4S hotspot on the laptop.

    I am now with Blueface (Three Network) on a sim only plan. It's not cheap, but the virtual landline option and voicemail to email is great. Can I tether? YES I CAN :)

    Tethering has even been successful on my Emobile plan and I am not 100% sure, but I think my colleague was tethering with his new Three contract the other day.

    I think the networks are going the wrong way by restricting tethering when they do, because alot of people will buy plans, just on the basis of being able to connect their ipad, macbook, or laptop to the internet when they are out and about, or like me, at wrk and don't want to fork out for a monthly dongle plan. I hate those dongles!!! Never used one, never will.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    goz83 wrote: »
    Not so sure about that mate. I signed up with Three a year ago in my own name, but with the intention of giving the phone to my secretary for company use and specifically for tethering, which was successful. Never had a problem using the iPhone 4S hotspot on the laptop.

    I am now with Blueface (Three Network) on a sim only plan. It's not cheap, but the virtual landline option and voicemail to email is great. Can I tether? YES I CAN :)

    Tethering has even been successful on my Emobile plan and I am not 100% sure, but I think my colleague was tethering with his new Three contract the other day.

    I think the networks are going the wrong way by restricting tethering when they do, because alot of people will buy plans, just on the basis of being able to connect their ipad, macbook, or laptop to the internet when they are out and about, or like me, at wrk and don't want to fork out for a monthly dongle plan. I hate those dongles!!! Never used one, never will.

    Its against Three's T&Cs since 1/1/2012. eMobile allow tethering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    whiterebel wrote: »
    Its against Three's T&Cs since 1/1/2012. .

    For new contracts (or upgrades). You can still tether on contracts started before then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    So , mobile phone offerings aside and assuming there are two people in a company looking to setup, why would anybody choose the emobile €39 per month unlimited deal over this €20+VAT deal ? I still cant believe how cheap the deal is, although I am presuming that the €15 a month difference is largely down to no mobile phone in the equation?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭kn


    How the hell would they know if you are tethering or not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    If you are on 'stock' mobile firmware (eg. out of the box), they can generally see, as there are safeguards loaded into some devices. However, if you are running custom firmware on your phone (eg. rooted Android, jailbroken iDevice), then they can't really see.

    Also, it is not completely as easy as just peeking in. If you spoof your mobile, you're good to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭breathn


    kn wrote: »
    How the hell would they know if you are tethering or not?

    The operators install systems so they know what is happening per account.
    Lycamobile put this in place last month that blocks tethering traffic on their data network


  • Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭RaggyDays


    If you are on 'stock' mobile firmware (eg. out of the box), they can generally see, as there are safeguards loaded into some devices. However, if you are running custom firmware on your phone (eg. rooted Android, jailbroken iDevice), then they can't really see.

    Also, it is not completely as easy as just peeking in. If you spoof your mobile, you're good to go.

    They can count the hops. Your phone will be the base, if you use it for tethering then any device connected to it will be at one extra hop.
    (But there are ways around that too :) )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭paddyp


    RaggyDays wrote: »
    (But there are ways around that too :) )

    Linky?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭gerrykiddy


    I called and they had all the info in Drogheda but they said that they would be asking for proof of business. Now things like headed paper and cards are no problem but they also said a utility bill in the name of the business (could be the individuals name I would think) but then they got to vat reg details (your PRSI would do if they dont ask for reg cert and business reg) I am sure we can overcome most of these hurdles and it is possible that they are just guessing in the shops.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Why even bother with all that hassle, when you can get unlimited calls, texts and 3GB of data for €20 from 48 months?

    Ok so I admit three gives you more data and free data abroad in a handful of countries. But then 48 months uses the much more reliable o2 network.

    I just switched from three to 48 months and the network is way better. I use to get no signal in my apartment (2 miles from Dublin City Center!) and frequent dropped calls. 48 months I have a perfect, strong signal at all times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    They can a look at the traffic going over the network as check the headers.
    This also mean THEY ACTIVELY MONITOR EVERYTHING YOU DO online.

    But you can get around this by tunnelling all your traffic.
    kn wrote: »
    How the hell would they know if you are tethering or not?

    This is only true on phones you get from the provider and I have not seen it outside of the US there they removed the tether option from the firmware.
    If you are on 'stock' mobile firmware (eg. out of the box), they can generally see, as there are safeguards loaded into some devices. However, if you are running custom firmware on your phone (eg. rooted Android, jailbroken iDevice), then they can't really see.

    Also, it is not completely as easy as just peeking in. If you spoof your mobile, you're good to go.


    breathn wrote: »
    The operators install systems so they know what is happening per account.
    Lycamobile put this in place last month that blocks tethering traffic on their data network

    This is not as easy to do since they are using NAT and CGN all over the place.
    RaggyDays wrote: »
    They can count the hops. Your phone will be the base, if you use it for tethering then any device connected to it will be at one extra hop.
    (But there are ways around that too :) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭kn


    So if you have a SIM free phone you can tether away regardless?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    This is now up & running,did anyone find a way of getting signed up without being an actual business?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    Isnt it just the same as their prepay 20euro top up but an option for bill pay instead of a top up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    zerks wrote: »
    This is now up & running,did anyone find a way of getting signed up without being an actual business?

    You need 2 or more mobiles to get this plan now: http://www.three.ie/business/priceplans/sim-only.html


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    Oracle wrote: »
    You need 2 or more mobiles to get this plan now: http://www.three.ie/business/priceplans/sim-only.html


    have conformation from Three , only one SIM needed .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    Isnt it just the same as their prepay 20euro top up but an option for bill pay instead of a top up?

    The same but Prepay is weekend calls only, this is unlimited anytime calls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    sharkman wrote: »
    have conformation from Three , only one SIM needed .

    Does that mean that you'd get away with signing up even if you're not a business?


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 redsovine


    sharkman wrote: »
    have conformation from Three , only one SIM needed .

    I contacted the store in Dún Laoghaire and also there regular sales number and both told me the deal only applies to 2 sims or more. That was a month and a half ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    redsovine wrote: »
    I contacted the store in Dún Laoghaire and also there regular sales number and both told me the deal only applies to 2 sims or more. That was a month and a half ago.

    2 sims no use to me,the missus is looking for a good deal on bill pay.I already have a great unlimited deal but she doesn't qualify for it.
    Think she'll just go for the eMobile €32 sim only unlimited plan instead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭richieb


    if you have a friend or family , ie a self employed carpenter, electrician, plasterer etc. then join together use his business, ie vat no. etc. pay him into his acc. direct debit the 20 + vat every month. it will work this way if yea are family or VERY good friends


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    richieb wrote: »
    if you have a friend or family , ie a self employed carpenter, electrician, plasterer etc. then join together use his business, ie vat no. etc. pay him into his acc. direct debit the 20 + vat every month. it will work this way if yea are family or VERY good friends

    I'd like to see you explain that to a revenue official when they do an audit:).


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