Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

Harry Angstrom

Be more in their line to track all those thousands of Nigerian princes who want to help us all by putting a couple of million in our bank accounts.

JonathanAnon

When these clean cut Shinners (the few of them that there are) start taking the moral high ground it really makes me sick..

grey_so_what

MrsD007 wrote: »

Grey, Welcome back, I've missed you

Tell me, what do you think of Gemma? I think she looks very well for 75.

She looks stunning MrsD.....She would put young ones to shame!....

I would put Mammy out to pasture happily, There is no room for her in politics imo.......:(

Worst "Auntie at wedding" scenario ever......:(

Even the papers are boring without Vinnie......:(

Lapin

Thats nothing.

The last Taoiseach went on the radio still half cut after a night on the píss in Galway while the whole country was going down the drain.

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Lapin wrote: »

Thats nothing.

The last Taoiseach went on the radio still half cut after a night on the píss in Galway while the whole country was going down the drain.

No no, he was hoarse.

JonathanAnon

How many people killed themselves cos they were sick of their Eircom broadband going down..

grey_so_what

It must be my telly, are Eoin's eyes changing from to green to a different colour?..

tayto lover

JonathanAnon wrote: »

How many people killed themselves cos they were sick of their Eircom broadband going down..

or looking at the same auld wans on political shows.

Lady Chatterton

The HSE need to provide cover at night and at weekends, people are more likely to need help late at night or at the weekend.

Roger_007

I think the last thing we need is a 'suicide strategy'.

tayto lover

grey_so_what wrote: »

It must be my telly, are Eoin's eyes changing from to green to a different colour?..

It's the tint in his lenses.

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461 drinks means that every TD had 2.8 drinks on the night of the debate.

grey_so_what

MrsD007 wrote: »

The HSE need to provide cover at night and at weekend, people are more likely to need help late at night or at the weekend.

Wasn't' that the case MrsD in that family tragedy in Wexford a few years ago?..

You couldn't be more right...

Lapin

JonathanAnon wrote: »

How many people killed themselves cos they were sick of their Eircom broadband going down to hell after being encouraged to invest everything in them by that trollop on the telly sitting next to Ivan....

FYP

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MrsD007 wrote: »

The HSE need to provide cover at night and at weekends, people are more likely to need help late at night or at the weekend.

Doesn't the HSE have a 24/7 phone line?

Lady Chatterton

grey_so_what wrote: »

Wasn't' that the case MrsD in that family tragedy in Wexford a few years ago?..

You couldn't be more right...

Yeah, that's right, the mother in that case looked for help from the HSE but she was told there was no social worker working over the weekend.

Lady Chatterton

hotmail.com wrote: »

Doesn't the HSE have a 24/7 phone line?

What good is that if you need proper psychiatric help or assistance from a social worker?

Busted Flat.

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JonathanAnon wrote: »

When these clean cut Shinners (the few of them that there are) start taking the moral high ground it really makes me sick..

The OSFIRA/OSFWP/WP/DL/LP took the high moral ground, what is the problem.

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MrsD007 wrote: »

What good is that if you need proper psychiatric help or assistance from a social worker?

I agree of course, but having on call social workers isn't the reason for high suicide rates.

Busted Flat.

hotmail.com wrote: »

Doesn't the HSE have a 24/7 phone line?

Of course, but there is no one to answer the fone.

Lady Chatterton

hotmail.com wrote: »

I agree of course, but having on call social workers isn't the reason for high suicide rates.

The lack of social workers is a big problem. For example: if you have a parent who is finding it difficult to cope, a good social worker can help to support the family, particularly the children.

grey_so_what

MrsD007 wrote: »

What good is that if you need proper psychiatric help or assistance from a social worker?

The difference between a physical presence in a face to face senario would have no comparison to talking to a helpline in a "hard to cope with" situation. I think the difference would be immense.

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MrsD007 wrote: »

The lack of social workers is a big problem. For example: if you have a parent who is finding it difficult to cope, a good social worker can help to support the family, particularly the children.

True, but it seems the lack of employment and opportunities for young men in particular, is a more pressing issue that needs to be addressed.

Lady Chatterton

hotmail.com wrote: »

True, but it seems the lack of employment and opportunities for young men in particular, is a more pressing issue that needs to be addressed.

The most recent stats show that suicide is decreasing in men and increasing in women.

I always think it is difficult to get reliable stats as so many cases of suicide go unreported for various reasons. In some cases a coroner will recommend a verdict of 'Death by Misadventure' where there is a surviving spouse with a young family. Some mortgage policies have suicide exclusions so a suicide verdict would place the family in financial distress in addition to the emotional distress of losing their loved one.

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MrsD007 wrote: »

The most recent stats show that suicide is decreasing in men and increasing in women.

I always think it is difficult to get reliable stats and so much suicide goes unreported for various reasons. In some cases a coroner will recommend a verdict of 'Death by Misadventure' where there is a surviving spouse with a young family. Some mortgage policies have suicide exclusions so a suicide verdict would place the family in financial distress in addition to the emotional distress of losing their loved one.

According to the report 83% were men.

I did hear that you can multiply the official rate by 5 to get the real rate. Some single car crashes are often suicidal for example.

grey_so_what

MrsD007 wrote: »

The most recent stats show that suicide is decreasing in men and increasing in women.

I always think it is difficult to get reliable stats as so many cases of suicide go unreported for various reasons. In some cases a coroner will recommend a verdict of 'Death by Misadventure' where there is a surviving spouse with a young family. Some mortgage policies have suicide exclusions so a suicide verdict would place the family in financial distress in addition to the emotional distress of losing their loved one.

I never heard that MrsD......How cynical and callous that is. I shouldn't be surprised though, there never seems to ramifications for institutions like banks, insurance companies, etc.

We are a nation of sheep at times to accept this cynical practice.

alaimacerc

hotmail.com wrote: »

461 drinks means that every TD had 2.8 drinks on the night of the debate.

By the looks of it, there were some that'd "collected" quite a few of the "spare" 0.8s.

Lady Chatterton

hotmail.com wrote: »

According to the report 83% were men.

I did hear that you can multiply the official rate by 5 to get the real rate. Some single car crashes are often suicidal for example.

This is true, but the report says that there was a decrease of male cases and an increase in female cases. There is no doubt about it men are definitely at a higher risk

chinwag

vicwatson wrote: »

How many pensions do these two wans have between them I wonder?

And don't forget to include the host :rolleyes:

Lady Chatterton

grey_so_what wrote: »

I never heard that MrsD......How cynical and callous that is. I shouldn't be surprised though, there never seems to ramifications for institutions like banks, insurance companies, etc.

We are a nation of sheep at times to accept this cynical practice.

No GSW, the Coroner is protecting the surviving spouse in these cases. If a death by suicide was recorded a loss of life claim could be declined. However, if the death is recorded as 'death by misadventure' the policy is usually paid out.