Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

hotmail.com

RobertKK wrote: »

hotmail, using your logic, I would keep all children away from 30 year old men, especially if from Athlone.
But that would me choosing to judge all 30 year old men on a man who does not represent all 30 year old men.

Hotmail, a priest would not want to be alone with a child, it is against the rules as it is not best practice for child safety, and we have had more than one case where a priest was wrongly accused and found to be innocent.

The fact is a child was no more likely to be abused in a church environment than anywhere else.
Hotmail, using your logic, you would not allow your children to go swimming, given we had the sexual abuse in swimming.
Children would only be reared by women, given we had cases of fathers raping their own children.

We should not judge individual people as being abusers because others who share something like being in the priesthood, being 30 years old, being a swimming coach or a father were involved in sexual abuse.
hotmail, all these are men, your logic would suggest, you and I are sexual abusers. I am not and I presume you are the same as me, but if I was to treat people who share something in common, then I could make a false accusation against you, and that would be highly wrong. This is what you are doing to priests who never abused and who would never abuse.

That's not what I said. I said I would not leave a child alone with a priest. None of the rubbish you're talking about.

I stand by that. Elderly celibate men wearing costumes are not to be trusted.

By the way the veiled defence of the clergy is rather disturbing. But there you go.

tayto lover

RobertKK wrote: »

What a lovely start to the VinB show.

If an election was held now, Labour would lose all it's seats in the Daii.

Eamon Gilmour, the man who murdered Labour.

grey_so_what

tayto lover wrote: »

Eamon Gilmour, the man who murdered Labour.

Serves him right. He promised the world and delivered what??

He shot himself in the foot but will retire at the next election with a nice nest egg.......I presume.......:rolleyes:

tayto lover

grey_so_what wrote: »

Serves him right. He promised the world and delivered what??

He shot himself in the foot but will retire at the next election with a nice nest egg.......I presume.......:rolleyes:

His 30 pieces of silver.

Lady Chatterton

RobertKK wrote: »

What a lovely start to the VinB show.

If an election was held now, Labour would lose all it's seats in the Daii.

The last straw for me was when they supported the cut in the Carers' Respite Grant, they've abandoned their principles so they deserve to lose their seats.

hotmail.com

Gilmore needs the axe. His cowardly decision to pick foreign affairs was a sign of things to come.

vicwatson

It's mad, before that guy spoke (The Geography lecturer), I thought he was going to be a barrister !! He looks like a barrister

Harry Angstrom

Can't wait to see the back of them. Bunch of sell-outs.

Lady Chatterton

hotmail.com wrote: »

That's not what I said. I said I would not leave a child alone with a priest. None of the rubbish you're talking about.

I stand by that. Elderly celibate men wearing costumes are not to be trusted.

By the way the veiled defence of the clergy is rather disturbing. But there you go.

I find your posts highly offensive, do you insult all religions or it just catholicism you have a problem with?

Can you not make your point without being so insulting?

Sir Oxman

Labour are looking like they will be history unless something miraculous happens for them.
I know I will never even consider them again - I trusted them once in 1992 and after the lie that they'd never consider coalition with FF, I was right to never trust them again.

And i agree with hotmail, their own so-called leader chickened out snapping up a 'safe' ministry.

RobertKK

hotmail.com wrote: »

That's not what I said. I said I would not leave a child alone with a priest. None of the rubbish you're talking about.

I stand by that. Elderly celibate men wearing costumes are not to be trusted.

By the way the veiled defence of the clergy is rather disturbing. But there you go.

...and I said a priest would not want to be alone with a child. It is against church rules, it is to offer protection to both child and priest.

Being celibate doesn't make one an abuser. I don't think one is celibate if they are raping children.
We do not have to worry about celibate men or women, and what one wears does not influence things.

I will defend anyone who I think is being treated unfairly, innocent people should not be made or implied to be child abusers.

Harry Angstrom

Rabbitte and Gilmore will probably do a Cowen and Dempsey before the election.

hotmail.com

MrsD007 wrote: »

I find your posts highly offensive, do you insult all religions or it just catholicism you have a problem with?

Can you not make your point without being so insulting?

They usually are elderly, they are all celibate (apparently) and they all wear costumes? What's so offensive about that?

And yes, I take issue with all religions.

tayto lover

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Labour are looking like they will be history unless something miraculous happens for them.
I know I will never even consider them again - I trusted them once in 1992 and after the lie that they'd never consider coalition with FF, I was right to never trust them again.

And i agree with hotmail, their own so-called leader chickened out snapping up a 'safe' ministry.

and getting his wife sorted with a nice little earner too.

take everything

Vinny can't seem to say "Joan Burton" in a serious voice

Sir Oxman

RobertKK wrote: »

...and I said a priest would not want to be alone with a child. It is against church rules to offer protection to both child and priest.

Being celibate doesn't make one an abuser. I don't think one is celibate if they are raping children.
We do not have to worry about celibate men or women, and what one wears does not influence things.

I will defend anyone who I think is being treated unfairly, innocent people should not be made or implied to be child abusers.

I agree with this.

grey_so_what

MrsD007 wrote: »

I find your posts highly offensive, do you insult all religions or it just catholicism you have a problem with?

Can you not make your point without being so insulting?

Clerical Bashing............How sad.

There is good and bad in every way of life.

I know wonderful priest's and they do not deserve to be tarred with a poisonous brush.


I should say I'm referring to Hotmails comments......

RobertKK

Labour politicians in the media defending Gilmore and their party...they always come across as delusional.

Lapin

This discussion is a complete waste of time midway through a government's term. (I'm one about the discussion on the telly - Not the priest bashing one here).

By the time the next election comes around the landscape will have changed and they will have two budgets (after the upcoming one) to soften up the electorate.

Lady Chatterton

hotmail.com wrote: »

They usually are elderly, they are all celibate (apparently) and they all wear costumes? What's so offensive about that?

And yes, I take issue with all religions.

I've no wish to spend any time explaining it to you, manners and basic courtesy cost nothing. We are all aware of your hatred of the catholic church and it's getting tiring now.

coolhull

RobertKK wrote: »

...and I said a priest would not want to be alone with a child. It is against church rules, it is to offer protection to both child and priest.

Being celibate doesn't make one an abuser. I don't think one is celibate if they are raping children.
We do not have to worry about celibate men or women, and what one wears does not influence things.

I will defend anyone who I think is being treated unfairly, innocent people should not be made or implied to be child abusers.

Hey lads this is the Vinnie Show thread. Could you guys not find another forum for your opinions? There are plenty here on Boards

grey_so_what

If the Economy turns Labour will romp home??............Don't think so........

Harry Angstrom

MrsD007 wrote: »

I've no wish to spend any time explaining it to you, manners and basic courtesy cost nothing. We are all aware of your hatred of the catholic church and it's getting tiring now.

No point in having a debate with a bigot.

hotmail.com

MrsD007 wrote: »

I've no wish to spend any time explaining it to you, manners and basic courtesy cost nothing. We are all aware of your hatred of the catholic church and it's getting tiring now.

Surely if you felt it was offensive, you could string a sentence together explaining yourself.

Busted Flat.

grey_so_what wrote: »

If the Economy turns Labour will romp home??............Don't think so........

If me aunt had baiis, she would be me uncle.

Lapin

tayto lover wrote: »

Eamon Gilmour, the man who murdered Labour.

Tayto Lover, the man who murdered Eamon Gilmore's surname.

vicwatson

MrsD007 wrote: »

We are all aware of your hatred of the catholic church and it's getting tiring now.

Eh I wasn't

JonathanAnon

coolhull wrote: »

Hey lads this is the Vinnie Show thread. Could you guys not find another forum for your opinions? There are plenty here on Boards

Can I suggest the "That Would Be An Ecumenical Matter" Forum..

RobertKK

coolhull wrote: »

Hey lads this is the Vinnie Show thread. Could you guys not find another forum for your opinions? There are plenty here on Boards

That is fair enough, it started last night when the papers covered on the show talked about the horrific case in Athlone.
I said all I wanted to say in regards to abuse and accusations/implying a certain group are all abusers.

vicwatson

Lapin wrote: »

Tayto Lover, the man who murdered Eamon Gilmore's surname.

He's thinking Dave Gilmour !! :P