Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

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RobertKK wrote: »

That did backfire, as they were never going to allow the country go over the fiscal cliff.


Looking back, the US had a most terrible choice for president back in 2008.

Kent? :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrtLjWb0Fmo

coolhull

RobertKK wrote: »

The debt was not $17 trillion under Reagan and rising steeply. It was under $10 trilion when Bush left office.

Going to bed, but all that spying is probably expensive too...employs a lot of people.

Ah sure what's 17 trillion among friends?:rolleyes:

Ipso

RobertKK wrote: »

Pregnancy is not an illness.

No but it's a cost health insurance companies will pay for.

Ipso

RobertKK wrote: »

The debt was not $17 trillion under Reagan and rising steeply. It was under $10 trilion when Bush left office.

Going to bed, but all that spying is probably expensive too...employs a lot of people.

It wasn'tgoing down was it. My point is, a party with an awful record on fiscal matters should not be allowed to frame the debate.

Roger_007

coolhull wrote: »

Ah sure what's 17 trillion among friends?:rolleyes:

Just $1 each, (if you have 17 trillion friends):D

Ipso

Roger_007 wrote: »

Just $1 each, (if you have 17 trillion friends):D

So around 2500 AD or so?

tayto lover

Tonight --- Enda being shown up yet again as a hypocrite.

grey_so_what

Vincent not mincing words there......

Scary Enda arrives in time for Halloween!

Lady Chatterton

It's like watching an episode of 'Reeling In The Years' this evening. I love Vinny's video clips

Lapin

tayto lover wrote: »

Tonight --- Enda being shown up yet again as a hypocrite.

And Gilmore being shown up as a habitual hypocrite.

grey_so_what

Lapin wrote: »

And Gilmore being shown up as a habitual hypocrite.

He will have plenty of time to reflect upon that after the next Election Lapin!

Skid X

I liked this placard at the protest



http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1022/481954-reilly-budget/

Skid X

I don't think the Pensioners have the same momentum as last time. The Government will be pleased that there hasn't been a huge reaction to the OAP Medical Card changes, and the Phone Allowance.

Lady Chatterton

grey_so_what wrote: »

He will have plenty of time to reflect upon that after the next Election Lapin!

There is a big job coming up in Europe and he has been linked to that.

tayto lover

grey_so_what wrote: »

He will have plenty of time to reflect upon that after the next Election Lapin!

He will ride into the sunset with a huge pay-off and pension after undoing the work of Larkin, Connolly and all who gave their life's commitment to the Labour Party.
He sold them out for a wee bit of power. Ego tripper.

grey_so_what

MrsD007 wrote: »

There is a big job coming up in Europe and he has been linked to that.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest MrsD.......Something has to be buying his silence......:rolleyes:

Lady Chatterton

Skid X wrote: »

I don't think the Pensioners have the same momentum as last time. The Government will be pleased that there hasn't been a huge reaction to the OAP Medical Card changes, and the Phone Allowance.

Every media outlet in the country has been covering the fallout from the medical card situation though.

(The withdrawal or refusal to give medical cards to some people with serious illness or disability).

Lady Chatterton

tayto lover wrote: »

He will ride into the sunset with a huge pay-off and pension after undoing the work of Larkin, Connolly and all who gave their life's commitment to the Labour Party.
He sold them out for a wee bit of power. Ego tripper.

I'll never vote Labour again, they've sold out.

tayto lover

MrsD007 wrote: »

Every media outlet in the country has been covering the fallout from the medical card situation though.

(The withdrawal or refusal to give medical cards to some people with serious illness or disability).

The medical card should be means tested just like Child Benefit.
The wrong people are often punished.
I was more annoyed with them reducing the tax allowance on Health Insurance.
Only people took it out the system would not cope, yet they are punished.

Good loser

Billy calls for 'a small bit of honesty.' All these so called progressive budgets in 2008, 2009 and 2010 were based on borrowings which have not yet been paid back and which will hold the country back for years.

coolhull

MrsD007 wrote: »

Every media outlet in the country has been covering the fallout from the medical card situation though.

(The withdrawal or refusal to give medical cards to some people with serious illness or disability).

But isn't it grand that the kids of millionaires will be able to get free GP care whenever they sneeze?

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tayto lover wrote: »

The medical card should be means tested just like Child Benefit.
The wrong people are often punished.
I was more annoyed with them reducing the tax allowance on Health Insurance.
Only people took it out the system would not cope, yet they are punished.

I would be open to a universal system, no GP or hospital fees. Everybody just has to pay more tax.

Skid X

MrsD007 wrote: »

Every media outlet in the country has been covering the fallout from the medical card situation though.

(The withdrawal or refusal to give medical cards to some people with serious illness or disability).

They have, but it only impacts on a relatively small number of people.

And I don't think it will cost the Government many votes - most people tend to vote based on what the Government has done to them, and their families.

It's a very unfair move by the Government, but I think they know it won't cost them many votes.

tayto lover

Good loser wrote: »

Billy calls for 'a small bit of honesty.' All these so called progressive budgets in 2008, 2009 and 2010 were based on borrowings which have not yet been paid back and which will hold the country back for years.

FF should not be allowed a platform at all but in general the hypocrasy of politicians of all hue and colour is very off-putting. I am left with no party to vote for.

Lady Chatterton

tayto lover wrote: »

The medical card should be means tested just like Child Benefit.
The wrong people are often punished.
I was more annoyed with them reducing the tax allowance on Health Insurance.
Only people took it out the system would not cope, yet they are punished.

I agree with you for the most part but I think that there are certain people who should have an automatic entitlement to a medical card.

People who have MS, Cancer, Motor Neutrone Disease etc... and child and adults with intellectual and other serious disabilites.

The increase in prescription charges is another thing that is going to cause hardship, it's now up to €2.50 per item :eek:

I'm raging over the changes to the tax relief on medical insurance, it will mean even more people will be forced to abandon their cover :mad: It's incredibly short-sighted, it means that more people will be relying on the public health system.

coolhull

No Government representative on the panel tonight.
I wonder why?

tayto lover

MrsD007 wrote: »

I agree with you for the most part but I think that there are certain people who should have an automatic entitlement to a medical card.

People who have MS, Cancer, Motor Neutrone Disease etc... and child and adults with intellectual and other serious disabilites.

Of course 100%. BUT many people will retain it even though they can afford to pay.
It should be for the people you described above.

Skid X

The Over 70s Universal Medical Card was one of the most cynical ill thought out election gimmicks ever.

It wouldn't take a Demographics expert to realise it was unsustainable (even if we hadn't had a Bust).

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Appalling treatment of that Roma family. No doubt, racism was a factor in the child's removal.

grey_so_what

Poor 'ol Vincent, he's just not up to speed with Alex and Roy!