Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

Callan57

The medical card is hugely abused - everyone I know who has one has a small chemists in their kitchen cupboards full of prescription medicines & supplies half the neighbours. My own mother RIP had a precription, which by the time she passed away, was a couple of pages long - GP never, ever deleted anything from it but every visit something else was added. At one stage she had medication for low and high blood pressure on the prescription and it was never queried by GP or by pharmacist - & when we queried it got a "shoulder shrug" & a sure she's on a medical card what difference does it make!

No country could keep this racket going

Lapin

Skid X wrote: »

I don't think the Pensioners have the same momentum as last time.

Thats because most of them know they have little or feckall to complain about.

Its about time they took a hit. The rest of us have been fleeced in the last few budgets and have nothing more to give. I'm sick listening to them saying how they built this country and then whinge about losing €9.50 a monthe on a telephone allowance after travelling to Dublin on their free passes.


And the way they carry on about the extra euro on prescription charges you'd think they were the only ones who get sick.

Irish pensioners get a lot more benefits tham most of their European counterparts. If they're not happy, they can do what those really hit hardest are being forced to do.

Emigrate.

Lady Chatterton

Skid X wrote: »

They have, but it only impacts on a relatively small number of people.

And I don't think it will cost the Government many votes - most people tend to vote based on what the Government has done to them, and their families.

It's a very unfair move by the Government, but I think they know it won't cost them many votes.

True, but they are a very vocal group and they're getting massive coverage in the media.

It doesn't look good when cancer patients and children with severe disabilities appear on TV begging the HSE/Dept. of Health for a medical card.

grey_so_what

Lapin wrote: »

Emigrate.

:(:(

grey_so_what

I remember protesting about Wood Quay!!........

Lapin

grey_so_what wrote: »

:(:(

Not you.:eek:

Skid X

Vincent, when you were in College you had no fees and most courses were much easier.

The Students have to try and pay their way and go to Lectures.

coolhull

Skid X wrote: »

The Over 70s Universal Medical Card was one of the most cynical ill thought out election gimmicks ever.

It wouldn't take a Demographics expert to realise it was unsustainable (even if we hadn't had a Bust).

Yes it was, but the free GP care for ALL under fives comes a close second
Another cynical ploy by Labour.

grey_so_what

Lapin wrote: »

Not you.:eek:

That's worth a pint.......:p

tayto lover

Lapin wrote: »

Thats because most of them know they have little or feckall to complain about.

Its about time they took a hit. The rest of us have been fleeced in the last few budgets and have nothing more to give. I'm sick listening to them saying how they built this country and then whinge about losing €9.50 a monthe on a telephone allowance after travelling to Dublin on their free passes.


And the way they carry on about the extra euro on prescription charges you'd think they were the only ones who get sick.

Irish pensioners get a lot more benefits tham most of their European counterparts. If they're not happy, they can do what those really hit hardest are being forced to do.

Emigrate.

I don't know what age you are but these people worked through many recessions. I can remember paying tax @ 58%. In other words many of the elderly paid for many a recession.

Skid X

MrsD007 wrote: »

True, but they are a very vocal group and they're getting massive coverage in the media.

It doesn't look good when cancer patients and children with severe disabilities appear on TV begging the HSE/Dept. of Health for a medical card.

It will be long forgotten by most people before the next Election, sadly.

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Callan57 wrote: »

The medical card is hugely abused - everyone I know who has one has a small chemists in their kitchen cupboards full of prescription medicines & supplies half the neighbours. My own mother RIP had a precription, which by the time she passed away, was a couple of pages long - GP never, ever deleted anything from it but every visit something else was added. At one stage she had medication for low and high blood pressure on the prescription and it was never queried by GP or by pharmacist - & when we queried it got a "shoulder shrug" & a sure she's on a medical card what difference does it make!

No country could keep this racket going

This is the fault of the GPs over prescribing, not the patients.

Lapin

Rabbitte, Gilmour, and Kenny all went to my college. NUI Galway.

But on the plus side the place also gave us President Higgins.

Lady Chatterton

A bit harsh Lapin

Not all pensioners are wealthy but the ones that are should lose their medical cards and other benefits.

The free bus pass is feck all good to you unless you're living in a large town or city.

Busted Flat.

I would think that student guy will go SF. The party of progress.

Lapin

grey_so_what wrote: »

That's worth a pint.......:p

...........of gin

Callan57

MrsD007 wrote: »

True, but they are a very vocal group and they're getting massive coverage in the media.

It doesn't look good when cancer patients and children with severe disabilities appear on TV begging the HSE/Dept. of Health for a medical card.

Of course it doesn't look good but I can't help feeling there is something very manipulative about it nonetheless.

take everything

Big mischievous head on Vinny.

grey_so_what

Hahahahahahaha........Vincent is getting his own back because they are running buckshot on him!

Lady Chatterton

I remember my dad talking about paying 18% mortgage interest in the early 80s, older people have lived though hard times too.

Skid X

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't know what age you are but these people worked through many recessions. I can remember paying tax @ 58%. In other words many of the elderly paid for many a recession.

Not every Pensioner was living on bread and water in the old days.

Should Children be forced to suffer because of a misguided notion that all Pensioners lived in squalor pre Celtic Tiger?

It is time wealthy Pensioners took their share of the pain.

Roger_007

Skid X wrote: »

Vincent, when you were in College you had no fees and most courses were much easier.

The Students have to try and pay their way and go to Lectures.

I just heard a snippet of Mooneys program and they were talking about how all the students in UCD have cars.......times have changed since my student days. This austerity is terrible indeed....:rolleyes:

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MrsD007 wrote: »

I remember my dad talking about paying 18% mortgage interest in the early 80s, older people have lived though hard times too.

Yeah, but that generation paid pittance for their houses.

Lady Chatterton

Callan57 wrote: »

Of course it doesn't look good but I can't help feeling there is something very manipulative about it nonetheless.

Really? :eek:

grey_so_what

Skid X wrote: »

Not every Pensioner was living on bread and water in the old days.

You have no idea..........:eek:

tayto lover

Skid X wrote: »

Not every Pensioner was living on bread and water in the old days.

Should Children be forced to suffer because of a misguided notion that all Pensioners lived in squalor pre Celtic Tiger?

It is time wealthy Pensioners took their share of the pain.

No problem at all with the wealthy paying

Lady Chatterton

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yeah, but that generation paid pittance for their houses.

It only looks that way now, everything is relative.

grey_so_what

Roger_007 wrote: »

I just heard a snippet of Mooneys program and they were talking about how all the students in UCD have cars.......times have changed since my student days. This austerity is terrible indeed....:rolleyes:

They don't really Roger.....They just commander the car, but they work for the tax and insurance.......at least they do in my house!....:)

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MrsD007 wrote: »

It only looks that way now, everything is relative.

Relatively, the houses were cheaper then than they are now.

grey_so_what

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yeah, but that generation paid pittance for their houses.

Not in comparison to what they were paid in the day!......