Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

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Roger_007 wrote: »

You seem to forget, Harry, that only one fifth of electorate supported Labour at the last election. If the public wanted Labour to implement their policies they would have voted for a majority Labour government........they did not do so, and are now saying that Labour should have implemented policies that the public did NOT vote for.

Labour didn't have to go into government. They could have stayed out forcing FG to form a government with Sinn Fein or Fianna Fail.

Busted Flat.

hotmail.com wrote: »

The deputy leader does nothing.

Same as the poodle leader they had.

Busted Flat.

hotmail.com wrote: »

Labour didn't have to go into government. They could have stayed out forcing FG to form a government with Sinn Fein or Fianna Fail.

The mercs and the perks always swayed the LP/WP.

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Busted Flat. wrote: »

The mercs and the perks always swayed the LP/WP.

No doubt about it.

Harry Angstrom

Roger_007 wrote: »

You seem to forget, Harry, that only one fifth of electorate supported Labour at the last election. If the public wanted Labour to implement their policies they would have voted for a majority Labour government........they did not do so, and are now saying that Labour should have implemented policies that the public did NOT vote for.

No party was given a clear mandate after the last General Election. What irks people (particularly Labour voters) is that Gilmore rolled over like a little lap dog and allowed Fine Gael to implement all of those policies that he campaigned against. Added to that was his "Labour's Way or Frankfurt's Way" speech and Ruairi Quinn making a big song and dance about signing a third level education pledge (which he immediately broke once he became Minister for Education) and it showed up Labour for being the pointless and ineffectual party that they became once entering Government.

Roger_007

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

No party was given a clear mandate after the last General Election. What irks people (particularly Labour voters) is that Gilmore rolled over like a little lap dog and allowed Fine Gael to implement all of those policies that he campaigned against. Added to that was his "Labour's Way or Frankfurt's Way" speech and Ruairi Quinn making a big song and dance about signing a third level education pledge (which he immediately broke once he became Minister for Education) and it showed up Labour for being the pointless and ineffectual party that they became once entering Government.

The minority party in a coalition government cannot, by definition, have all it's policies implemented. It is easy to pick on individual items and say that they did not do this or that. It's very strange that FG are escaping the flack having done just as badly as Labour in the local elections.
The bullies always pick on the little guy!

Busted Flat.

Roger_007 wrote: »

The minority party in a coalition government cannot, by definition, have all it's policies implemented. It is easy to pick on individual items and say that they did not do this or that. It's very strange that FG are escaping the flack having done just as badly as Labour in the local elections.
The bullies always pick on the little guy!

Everybody new what FG was like, the LP/WP promised on issues they knew they had no hope of getting. They have done that every time since the party was formed.
A chance at the big table and the merc always took precedent's over their morals. Nothing has changed in the 100 years since their formation.

That is why they are taking the hiding.

Good loser

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Everybody new what FG was like, the LP/WP promised on issues they knew they had no hope of getting. They have done that every time since the party was formed.
A chance at the big table and the merc always took precedent's over their morals. Nothing has changed in the 100 years since their formation.

That is why they are taking the hiding.

The correct moral choice at the time for Labour was to go into Government.

Imo they have had more than a fair share of their policies implemented. Except for Burton all their ministers have done good jobs.

Sinister Pigeon

What ever became of Elaine Byrne that used to be always on the show?

brooke 2

Sinister Pigeon wrote: »

What ever became of Elaine Byrne that used to be always on the show?

She might still be in Australia.

tayto lover

Good loser wrote: »

The correct moral choice at the time for Labour was to go into Government.

Imo they have had more than a fair share of their policies implemented. Except for Burton all their ministers have done good jobs.

:pac:

coolhull

Good loser wrote: »

The correct moral choice at the time for Labour was to go into Government.

Somehow the words 'moral ' and 'Labour' in the same sentence don't look right :P

Roger_007

coolhull wrote: »

Somehow the words 'moral ' and 'Labour' in the same sentence don't look right :P

Yeah, if you want morality, the Shinners have a monopoly on that virtue....they will right all the wrongs of previous governments, and all at no extra cost....what's not to like.:rolleyes:

tayto lover

Roger_007 wrote: »

Yeah, if you want morality, the Shinners have a monopoly on that virtue....they will right all the wrongs of previous governments, and all at no extra cost....what's not to like.:rolleyes:

The Shinners seem to have rattled a lot of cages of late.

coolhull

Roger_007 wrote: »

Yeah, if you want morality, the Shinners have a monopoly on that virtue....they will right all the wrongs of previous governments, and all at no extra cost....what's not to like.:rolleyes:

No way would I put the words 'Shinners' and 'morals' or 'truth' in the same sentence.
That would just look ridiculous.
And no, I'm not interested in getting into an argument with supporters of SF or Labour.
Life's too short...:P

Busted Flat.

Alex white is the responsible the minister one step down, that oversaw the medical card scandal. Do you still have Motor neurone disease (MND), what clown under his control asked that question. Now he wants to be second in charge in government. Get a life Alex.

Roger_007

Mary is verrrrrry easy on the eye...!

tayto lover

Roger_007 wrote: »

Mary is verrrrrry easy on the eye...!

What did you think of Gerri Hall?

Roger_007

tayto lover wrote: »

What did you think of Gerri Hall?

Do you mean Mick Jagger's old flame?

coolhull

tayto lover wrote: »

What did you think of Gerri Hall?

Ah sure she's all right, too. I wouldn't kick her outta bed for eating Pringles

coolhull

tayto lover wrote: »

What did you think of Gerri Hall?

Roger_007 wrote: »

Do you mean Mick Jagger's old flame?

Or even David Hall, who ran for election last week?

Busted Flat.

Roger_007 wrote: »

Mary is verrrrrry easy on the eye...!

Joe Dolan.

With the red stuff on her fingernails, and the varnish on her toes,
the raddle on her old face and the whitewash on her nose
She'll get a fancy barber to shave her neck and head
Sure thats why I'm a bachelor and don't intend to wed.

Lenin Skynard

I think that girl used to play guitar for Robert Palmer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

_Kaiser_

Can't say I'm too surprised that our boys n girls in blue are still trying to pretend the last few months didn't happen (I'm a few mins behind the live broadcast)

Also as I predicted a while back, the new acting Commissioner is exactly from the same cloth as her predecessor - again unsurprising as she sat right alongside him as he called the whistleblowers "disgusting"

tomdempsey200

this is a poor show from enda kenny

wouldn't even give an account of what happened

not satisfactory at all

coolhull

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

this is a poor show from enda kenny

wouldn't even give an account of what happened

not satisfactory at all

So no change there then

Roger_007

FF and SF in Government after the next election?...........Old IRA and New IRA

take everything

Jaysus.
You heard it here first folks. Niall Collins making eyes at Padraig.
Shur isn't there a neo-nazi in the European Parliament. Why not? :rolleyes:
Crazy times ahead.

_Kaiser_

coolhull wrote: »

So no change there then

Sure Kenny thinks that he's still dealing with a classroom of primary school kids who don't need or deserve explanations beyond what teacher says goes.

You only have to watch his performance safely behind the doors of the Dail or when he has a script to read from to see how arrogant and out of touch he is - but that bluster really hides a very weak man who is completely out of his depth and beholden to favours owed to his backers against Bruton and what his EU masters demand.

He has to go down as the worst "leader" we've had in recent times IMO

Good loser

tayto lover wrote: »

The Shinners seem to have rattled a lot of cages of late.

They might have - but they haven't rattled Lorraine Higgins.