Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

Ipso

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

He has to go down as the worst "leader" we've had in recent times IMO

Ah now. He didn't inflate a property bubble and tell people with valid worries to commit suicide. He inherited a sack of sh1t, Ireland's course was well and truly set in stone before they were elected. FF's disastrous policies will be forgotten very soon.
Hopefully with the others success in recent elections, they will soon be shown they can't spend money a bankrupt country doesn't have.

_Kaiser_

Ipso wrote: »

Ah now. He didn't inflate a property bubble and tell people with valid worries to commit suicide.

Maybe not, but he and his government are busy stoking the next bubble while those who didn't go mad last time round are left struggling as a result of his policies and a rental sector that's becoming rapidly unaffordable for many in Dublin - but shure isn't renting only a stepping-stone or only for social welfare recipients anyway?

He may not have told people to commit suicide, but you only have to watch his performances when challenged by SF and the rest with perfectly valid points. Deflects badly and starts attacking the person rather than debate the issue raised. With the general public he's even more of a disaster.. just watch any of the coverage of him out with the people. Again more awkward deflecting with condescending laughter - saw one on one of the news sites lately where he actually wagged his finger in a woman's face and questioned her nationality (she had an English accent) rather than answer her question!

There's a very good reason why Enda doesn't debate, and it's not entirely because he is so arrogant that he thinks he doesn't have to - it's because he's incapable of doing it without coming off as wooden and sincere as Pinocchio.

He inherited a sack of sh1t, Ireland's course was well and truly set in stone before they were elected. FF's disastrous policies will be forgotten very soon.

Yes we all know what they inherited (sure doesn't he still - 3 years later! - use it as an excuse every time he can) but the facts are that all he and his government have done is continue the same failed policies of their predecessors. Didn't he go to Europe the minute he was elected and tell them we all went mad sure! He even got a "European of the Year" award for all his "hard work".

Rather than forgetting FF's policies (which they did promise before the election - a new open, transparent, reforming approach) we've instead had "business as usual" - or have you missed the Shatter affair, Reilly's playing with primary care centre locations to benefit his constituency as soon as he got his feet under the desk, Hogan's never-ending antics etc etc

Hopefully with the others success in recent elections, they will soon be shown they can't spend money a bankrupt country doesn't have.

Well it hasn't stopped FG/LAB has it? They seem to think taxpayers can just pull money out of thin air to fund their expenses, ridiculous salaries, PR advisors, junkets, quangos, Irish Water and so on.

Kenny and Co are every bit as bad as FF were/are (and I'm no fan of theirs either). In fact this government is actually WORSE as they reneged on pretty much everything they promised to get into power. The irony with FF is, they actually delivered what they promised - that the "party" would continue as long as it could. They may be corrupt, incompetent and me-fein, but at least you know exactly what you're getting.

And therein lies the challenge for 2016 - where does a disillusioned, justifiably angry electorate that is finally waking up to the reality that flipping between FF and FG won't do it go next??

Ipso

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

And therein lies the challenge for 2016 - where does a disillusioned, justifiably angry electorate that is finally waking up to the reality that flipping between FF and FG won't do it go next??

More politicians that don't know how a country is financed!

tayto lover

Good loser wrote: »

They might have - but they haven't rattled Lorraine Higgins.

Did one of them not stop her getting a seat?

Busted Flat.

MLOD is gone thank god/Allah+, now we have Mr Bluster on behalf of the OSF/OIRA/ DL/DLLP.

bigroad

More people sleeping in cars.

Good loser

tayto lover wrote: »

Did one of them not stop her getting a seat?

They did way more than that.

tayto lover

Good loser wrote: »

They did way more than that.

After hearing that and think it's awful. Nutcases everywhere.

Lapin

There are very few people I naturally detest with a passion when I hear their voice.

Martin Collins, the apologist for the 'travelling community' is one.

Senator Marie Loise O'Donnell, the unapologist for her own multi tasking, spew driven, tax payed career is another.



I lay a challenge here and now to the producers of the Today with Sean O'Rourke programme over on RTÉ Radio.

Please stop wasting our money and (more importantly) our intelligence by paying this overpaid buddy of Montrose to chat up sheep in Wexford anymore, and her other weekly jaunts.

It's not good radio anymore. It comes across a lazy assignment for an already overpaid chum of someone in RTÉ (or politics).

This woman is on an income from the state broadcaster for contributing a weekly dose of crap to a prime time current affairs schedule.

Yet she doesn't report on current affairs. She reports about sheep and uses repetitive alliteration to force home her sheep.


There are many brilliant up and coming journalists and reporters who would gladly do MLOD's piece on the Today with Sean O'Rourke programme every week.

And if they were given a chance, they'd find something real to cover, (something more relevant than sheep and bogs).

And they'd do it for nothing.

Not three salaries from the state.

alaimacerc

Roger_007 wrote: »

FF and SF in Government after the next election?...........Old IRA and New IRA

Ever SF don't seem to be exactly denying this any more. All we got on this occasion was that SF would "prefer" to be in a coalition in which they could somehow characterise themselves as the senior partners (even if they weren't even the largest party within it, just part of a "left" block outnumber the (carefully unspecified) centre-right element). Which says nothing about actual intentions, just is a way of glossing "we'd like it if you continued to give us more votes, plz." And certainly doesn't preclude a FF-led coalition with SF alone if the numbers permit that.

The real fiction is that an increased vote for SF is somehow moving the country towards the left. In reality, it's merely on the one hand, eating Labour's lunch, and on the other, moving the "left" in a more self-serving, opportunistic, and nationalistic direction. Which is the job of the "socialist" wing of FF, of course!

Lady Chatterton

Today's discussion is about Sean Quinn and the Quinn family's missing mula :pac::pac::pac::pac:

coolhull

I don't think the money is 'missing'.
I bet the Mighty Quinns know exactly where it is

CountyHurler

The big sour head on Louise Bayliss... Cheer up ffs, you're on the telly..

Harry Angstrom

I knew this fella's voice always reminded me of somebody - Joseph O'Connor. He even looks a bit like him.

Lady Chatterton

John should be more concerned about his own financial affairs than the Quinn's :rolleyes:

McGuirk debt

John McGuirk, a former communications director for Libertas, has had a €10,000 judgment registered against him in Stubbs Gazette by Ballybay credit union in Monaghan. McGuirk, an unsuccessful general election candidate last year, said the debt was part of a €25,000 loan he took out to furnish an apartment in Dublin. He said he had consented to the judgment.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1132270.ece

vicwatson

CountyHurler wrote: »

The big sour head on Louise Bayliss... Cheer up ffs, you're on the telly..

She forgot to stop when putting on her eye shadow

tayto lover

MrsD007 wrote: »

Today's discussion is about Sean Quinn and the Quinn family's missing mula :pac::pac::pac::pac:

I can envisage another march forming.
What celebrity will attend this time?

CountyHurler

Van Outen is still looking well all the same.. I remember we used to spend breakfasts together... Well she was on the telly and I was sitting on the couch, but in my (albeit deluded) mind it was a relationship..

CountyHurler

vicwatson wrote: »

She forgot to stop when putting on her eye shadow

Harry Angstrom

CountyHurler wrote: »

Van Outen is still looking well all the same.. I remember we used to spend breakfasts together... Well she was on the telly and I was sitting on the couch, but in my (albeit deluded) mind it was a relationship..

She was on Celebrity Catchphrase the other night. She's not very bright.

tayto lover

"We have a huge debt".
Sorry, I don't. I didn't borrow or gamble yet i'm expected to pay.
These are not my debts at all.

Lady Chatterton

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

She was on Celebrity Catchphrase the other night. She's not very bright.

Ah the questions really didn't suit you her

Harry Angstrom

It seems to me that the people who think the bailout was justified always seem to be well-heeled public and civil servants who have been completely unaffected by austerity.

tayto lover

RBB does not look well tonight. Something wrong with him?

RobertKK

Richard Boyd Barrett would have everyone on food stamps as he hasn't a clue.

Lady Chatterton

This government have imposed so many cuts, charges and taxes on all of us (I understand some were necessary) but I'll never be able to forgive them for cutting the Respite Carers Grant. Carers save this country a fortune and instead of being valued they're treated with utter contempt.

Lady Chatterton

tayto lover wrote: »

RBB does not look well tonight. Something wrong with him?

He's a bit pale, only because Louise used all of the Max Factor

Lady Chatterton

Jaysus, tonight's show is all over the place, Vinny is trying to cover loads of different topics.

RobertKK

With pat Rabbitte , one should never trust someone who was known to support the dear leader of North Korea...

Harry Angstrom

RobertKK wrote: »

With pat Rabbitte , one should never trust someone who was known to support the dear leader of North Korea...

Or someone who steals quotes from John Maynard Keynes.