Man Utd Vs Man City 8.4.2013 KO:20:00

castletownman

Only would Fergie persist with two off form wingers, and mis-use a genuine top class number 10 in Kagawa. I know it's essentially a dead rubber game, but surely he should be sticking the knife into City after the way they lost the title last season.

adox

Disappointing. City deserved it. Whay Fergie left it so late to bring anyone on is beyond me.

Jones played well. Carrick wasn't bad and eh..that's about it.
Too many long aimless balls from Utd in the first half. City easily finding space between the Utd midfield and defence and no pressure from Utd when City had the ball.

I know Utd are still 12 points ahead but I'm pretty pissed right now. Losing to City at home and that's the last few games now where Utd have been poor.

SEPT 23 1989

So fcuking proud of the lads tonight

Superbia in Proelio

RandolphEsq

Hitchens wrote: »

Utd need 12 points from 7 games to win the title?

They actually may not need any points!

RandolphEsq

niallo27 wrote: »

I think he is talking about utd fans complaining about a manager who has them 12 points clear with 6 games to go. It's quiet bizarre.

Okay, but it isn't just the league. The CL, FA Cup and this massive derby game. Champions elect but you wouldn't have thought it.

And to be honest, they haven't been great all season. Van Persie got a lot of luck before Christmas which meant results turned out okay.

Mr.Micro

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Main reasons im bothered about this loss would be it could of been avoided for all of citys play they didnt really have many clear chances.

That and now have to listen to the waffle from mancini and co bout city still somehow being best team in league avoid defeat that would of been avoided.

Well its waffle from Mancini or Ferguson. Think I prefer the former.

Blatter

castletownman wrote: »

Only would Fergie persist with two off form wingers, and mis-use a genuine top class number 10 in Kagawa.

Yeah, because he's such a poor manager and doesn't know what he's doing. :rolleyes:

Christ on a bike.

karma_

Personally speaking, I'd like to see Giggs on the pitch for the next season or two.

niallo27

RandolphEsq wrote: »

Okay, but it isn't just the league. The CL, FA Cup and this massive derby game. Champions elect but you wouldn't have thought it.

The FA cup was poor. I thought the tactics against Madrid were spot on in fairness.

madcabbage

Some insult to leave Kagawa on the bench till the end behind Valenica. Poor performance from which ya can't take anything away from City. Delighted with Phil Jones on the plus side.

RandolphEsq

niallo27 wrote: »

The FA cup was poor. I thought the tactics against Madrid were spot on in fairness.

Completely deserved to beat Madrid. Possibly that seriously hurt morale to the point where the team just couldn't remotivate themselves for the rest of the season.

Xavi6

The Phil Jones face just keeps on giving

Nuri Sahin

Was Toure not awarded MOTM just before full time?

mrkiscool2

Hitchens wrote: »

Utd need 12 points from 7 games to win the title?

Lets assume that Man City win their remaining 7 games (they will drop points somewhere, but lets consider it anyway)

Man City currently have 65 points, add 21 to that and you get 86. Man United are currently on 77. 9 points would take it to goal difference, 10 would take the title. I can't see United losing to West Ham, Villa, or Stoke. I think we will also beat West Brom (if we have to). I also see us getting a draw against Swansea and Arsenal. So I still can't see us losing the title.

Chucky the tree

The 'greatest commentator of all time'(tm) sweeping Hartes horrible mistake under the carpet.

Corholio

Pretty poor game of football. Think United need someone in the centre to drive them forward when the game isn't going their way.

niallo27

Mike Dean gave out 9 yellows yet there was hardly a bad tackle in the game.

castletownman

Blatter wrote: »

Yeah, because he's such a poor manager and doesn't know what he's doing. :rolleyes:

Christ on a bike.

So tell me. Do you agree with Fergie's selection policy in persisting with Young and Valencia and apparently completely freezing out Nani? And bringing on Kagawa in the 90 minute, when he should have been introduced way earlier?

Don't get me wrong, I'm as big an United fan as anyone, but it seems to be against the law, or certainly the forum charter,to criticize Fergie. No-one in the world is infallible

Hitchens

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Lets assume that Man City win their remaining 7 games (they will drop points somewhere, but lets consider it anyway)

Man City currently have 65 points, add 21 to that and you get 86. Man United are currently on 77. 9 points would take it to goal difference, 10 would take the title. I can't see United losing to West Ham, Villa, or Stoke. I think we will also beat West Brom (if we have to). I also see us getting a draw against Swansea and Arsenal. So I still can't see us losing the title.

it would be fair interesting if Utd lost the next 2 and City won their next 2, but it should be Utd's title

blueser

Xavi6 wrote: »

The Phil Jones face just keeps on giving

Brilliant post Xavi!

jimjamcos

niallo27 wrote: »

Mike Dean gave out 9 yellows yet there was hardly a bad tackle in the game.

No, there was 2.

Here Precious2

Chucky the tree wrote: »

The 'greatest commentator of all time'(tm) sweeping Hartes horrible mistake under the carpet.

Ian Harte? or Joe Hart even?

Will I Amnt

Xavi6 wrote: »

The Phil Jones face just keeps on giving

He looks like Wilson from Castaway with that haircut.

Harry Deerpark

RandolphEsq wrote: »

Completely deserved to beat Madrid. Possibly that seriously hurt morale to the point where the team just couldn't remotivate themselves for the rest of the season.

Yeah, leading by one goal is convincing victory, my ass. United got a taste of their own medicine as they had a lot of dodgy referee's decisions in favour of them in the last few years. The refs in Europe aren't intimidated by Fergie like the ones in the Premiership are. Suck it up and get over it. United never stood a chance winning getting to the final of the Champions League anyway.

JP Liz V1

City deserved the win played the best

blueser

Wonder how that United fan who made the ''Aguer-nooooo'' banner is feeling?

smileyj1987

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Was Toure not awarded MOTM just before full time?

James Milner was my man of the match . Everything that was good about city's play Milner seemed to be involved in it .

Chucky the tree

Here Precious2 wrote: »

Ian Harte? or Joe Hart even?

Ian Harte, he was terrible.

Hitchens

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson: "It wasn't a bad performance by us, so I'm not disappointed in that respect. I'm disappointed with the goals we gave away.


"I think we were unlucky to lose the game. But it is easy to see why these were the best two teams in the country - the evidence was there tonight."

jimjamcos

Fergie's the greatest we've seen but watching that interview, what are these games "bringing Rooney on" for exactly? If the lad's not fit/can't get fit, don't play him or move him on! Rooney's been blunt for most of the season and a big call needs to be made one way or another.

Soby

Xavi6 wrote: »

The Phil Jones face just keeps on giving

Close up , bloody brilliant

Corholio

Hitchens wrote: »

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson: "It wasn't a bad performance by us, so I'm not disappointed in that respect. I'm disappointed with the goals we gave away.


"I think we were unlucky to lose the game. But it is easy to see why these were the best two teams in the country - the evidence was there tonight."

It was?

Did it appear after the game was over?

blueser

Soby wrote: »

Close up , bloody brilliant

RandolphEsq

Harry Deerpark wrote: »

United got a taste of their own medicine as they had a lot of dodgy referee's decisions in favour of them in the last few years.

That is so far off the mark, one must comment that your ass typed it! And is hardly Utd's fault so isn't their medicine. This season Utd have had decisions going against them (Spurs and Everton off the top of mind) on the top of the Real one.

Xavi6

blueser wrote: »

Brilliant post Xavi!

Head to Twitter and check out #TweetYourPhilJonesFace

Iago

jimjamcos wrote: »

Fergie's the greatest we've seen but watching that interview, what are these games "bringing Rooney on" for exactly? If the lad's not fit/can't get fit, don't play him or move him on! Rooney's been blunt for most of the season and a big call needs to be made one way or another.

12 goals and 9 assists in 22 league games would suggest you are wrong.

Only 9 players in the league ahead of him on goals and only 7 ahead on assists despite him missing 33% of Uniteds league games to date.

IvySlayer

Harry Deerpark wrote: »

Yeah, leading by one goal is convincing victory, my ass. United got a taste of their own medicine as they had a lot of dodgy referee's decisions in favour of them in the last few years. The refs in Europe aren't intimidated by Fergie like the ones in the Premiership are. Suck it up and get over it. United never stood a chance winning getting to the final of the Champions League anyway.

LOL :pac:

PurpleSt4in

PurpleSt4in wrote: »

United have been consistent in the PL all season, unlike City, but I think if City turn it on, they'll be too strong for United tonight. City 3-1.

Close but no cigar. Could have had a nice profit @ 22/1.

aidan24326

If we're being honest United will win what has been a terribly poor PL season. I hope Mourinho does come back to Chelsea to shake things up a bit. City have shown themselves to be nothing more than pretenders who got lucky last season.

Red Crow

aidan24326 wrote: »

If we're being honest United will win what has been a terribly poor PL season. I hope Mourinho does come back to Chelsea to shake things up a bit. City have shown themselves to be nothing more than pretenders who got lucky last season.

They're a badly managed side.

smileyj1987

Eli Manning wrote: »

They're a badly managed side.

Thats all of city's problems in a nutshell . They have all the money you could want but the manager doesn't seem to have a clue about the getting the best out of his players . Tonight being a perfect example , they showed up and won but at times they don't show up and only get a draw against teams they should be beating .

darced

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jimjamcos

Iago wrote: »

12 goals and 9 assists in 22 league games would suggest you are wrong.

Only 9 players in the league ahead of him on goals and only 7 ahead on assists despite him missing 33% of Uniteds league games to date.

You know as well as I do that he's been hit and miss this season and regardless of his stats, there's been more smokescreen with regards to him and his form than any other player. Surely I can't be the only United fan growing tired of the 'Wayne needs games', 'Wayne's coming along', 'another game or two should do him good' when we've only a handful of games left in season.

There's only so many little injury/resting/tactical excuses that can be given for his absence or performances before something gives. Rooney has all the signs of a player on his way out...I really hope I'm wrong and that he comes back with a bang next season!

Winston Payne

Rooney is physically on the slide. The intensity has gone out of his game.

eagle eye

I think I've heard all this before about Rooney, after the World Cup in 2010 being the last time. He will bounce back and he has been part of a team thats running away with the league title. It takes time to get in sync with a new striker sometimes. I think next season RVP and him could be devastating altogether.

markie29

irish son wrote: »

I fancy City tonight, I stuck €5 on City to win and Milner to score anytime 13/1.

jaysus well done!

tossy

tossy wrote: »

I just phoned paddy power for a special RSVP not to score and city to win got 7/2 - bet with the head shout at the tele with my heart.

I should trust my gut instinct more often. Thank you paddy power.

PurpleSt4in

aidan24326 wrote: »

If we're being honest United will win what has been a terribly poor PL season. I hope Mourinho does come back to Chelsea to shake things up a bit. City have shown themselves to be nothing more than pretenders who got lucky last season.

Couldn't agree more. A three horse race going down to the wire mid-May is all I'm asking for. Not too greedy... right? The Chelsea squad needs a bit of work though.

Kirby

PurpleSt4in wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. A three horse race going down to the wire mid-May is all I'm asking for. Not too greedy... right? The Chelsea squad needs a bit of work though.

Chelsea have a terrific squad, but like City is just mismanaged. The wrong players starting in the wrong positions to boot. I wouldn't be surprised to see them challenging again next season. The only thing they really need to a top quality striker. The other problems they have are minor in comparison and will be compensated by having somebody they can rely on up top.

Blatter

castletownman wrote: »

So tell me. Do you agree with Fergie's selection policy in persisting with Young and Valencia and apparently completely freezing out Nani? And bringing on Kagawa in the 90 minute, when he should have been introduced way earlier?

Don't get me wrong, I'm as big an United fan as anyone, but it seems to be against the law, or certainly the forum charter,to criticize Fergie. No-one in the world is infallible

No, there is no problem with criticising Ferguson but what is nauseating is people saying things like ''Only would Fergie persist with two off form wingers, and mis-use a genuine top class number 10 in Kagawa''

There is a clear implication there that Ferguson lacks basic managerial skills and is clueless, which is obviously bollocks.