Could this be why we really joined the E.U. *Wikileaks*

Nika Bolokov

New release from Wikileaks. This is a release of U.S. Diplomatic cables from 1973 to 76 which unlike the last lot were not obtained illegally (Runs for cover) but through something similar to our own Freedom of Information act.


Cable 1973DUBLIN00404 states as part of a wider discussion on the North

' IT REAFFIRMS THAT IRELAND' S MAIN INTEREST IN JOINING EC IS INCREASED INCOMES FOR ITS FARMERS THROUGH EC' S CAP'

The new releases can be found here: http://wikileaks.org/plusd/ and can be searched like Google. Hours of fun and probably much controversy within for the curious :-)

Mr Benevolent

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

New release from Wikileaks. This is a release of U.S. Diplomatic cables from 1973 to 76 which unlike the last lot were not obtained illegally (Runs for cover) but through something similar to our own Freedom of Information act.


Cable 1973DUBLIN00404 states as part of a wider discussion on the North

' IT REAFFIRMS THAT IRELAND' S MAIN INTEREST IN JOINING EC IS INCREASED INCOMES FOR ITS FARMERS THROUGH EC' S CAP'

The new releases can be found here: http://wikileaks.org/plusd/ and can be searched like Google. Hours of fun and probably much controversy within for the curious :-)

This isn't news. It was obvious at the time. The EU has proved useful to us in other ways since then.

Nika Bolokov

Is news for anyone under 25

summerskin

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

This isn't news. It was obvious at the time. The EU has proved useful to us in other ways since then.

Yes, some Irish men have actually had sex with hot Polish girls.

VinLieger

LOL why else would we have joined the EU? To make us feel included and all warm and fuzzy inside?
It was for money obviously

VinLieger

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

Is news for anyone under 25

Yeah if you havent read a history book

Nika Bolokov

VinLieger wrote: »

Yeah if you havent read a history book

Which is likely for many

VinLieger

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

Which is likely

Apparently.... did you also know the USSR disbanded and we landed on the moon?

Doylers

VinLieger wrote: »

Yeah if you havent read a history book

Whats a book?

Nika Bolokov

Meant to post this to highlight the interesting resource Plus D is and to give a historical backdrop to certain events like EU membership for those a little younger, not get involved in trading smart ass comments.

Well people, enjoy and happy searching.

Not sure if its perhaps better in the Politics forum where people will make better use of it.

VinLieger

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

Meant to post this to highlight the interesting resource Plus D is and to give a historical backdrop to certain events like EU membership for those a little younger, not get involved in trading smart ass comments.

Well people, enjoy and happy searching.

Hah posting in after hours and not expecting smart ass comments

Nika Bolokov

VinLieger wrote: »

Hah posting in after hours and not expecting smart ass comments

Yes I really need to lower my expectations.......

The Dagda

Doylers wrote: »

Whats a book?

It's an early type of Kindle/E-Reader...

kneemos

Wikileaks earthshattering as always.

Nodin

We Joined The EU For Money????????

Irishcrx

summerskin wrote: »

Yes, some Irish men have actually had sex with hot Polish girls.

Well what they do with their wages is their own business I guess!

Pompey Magnus

Link

Found this one interesting, I never heard before that Fine Gael & Labour had been planning on a referendum to scrap the Constitution (both had opposed it's passing in 1937) and replacing it with a much more basic one which they were in the process of drafting.

Also interesting that it suggests that Britain was encouraging changes so as to make Irish reunification more palatable for Northern Protestants.

Also interesting how they note in a seperate document from 1975 that Fine Gael were apparently relying on the sympathy vote (as opposed presumably to actual merit or ability) to get an unnamed son of deceased Mayo West TD Henry Kenny elected.

batistuta9

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Link

Found this one interesting, I never heard before that Fine Gael & Labour had been planning on a referendum to scrap the Constitution (both had opposed it's passing in 1937) and replacing it with a much more basic one which they were in the process of drafting.

Also interesting that it suggests that Britain was encouraging changes so as to make Irish reunification more palatable for Northern Protestants.

Also interesting how they note in a seperate document from 1975 that Fine Gael were apparently relying on the sympathy vote (as opposed presumably to actual merit or ability) to get an unnamed son of deceased Mayo West TD Henry Kenny elected.

how times have changed, eh?

dxhound2005

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Link

Found this one interesting, I never heard before that Fine Gael & Labour had been planning on a referendum to scrap the Constitution (both had opposed it's passing in 1937) and replacing it with a much more basic one which they were in the process of drafting.

Also interesting that it suggests that Britain was encouraging changes so as to make Irish reunification more palatable for Northern Protestants.

Also interesting how they note in a seperate document from 1975 that Fine Gael were apparently relying on the sympathy vote (as opposed presumably to actual merit or ability) to get an unnamed son of deceased Mayo West TD Henry Kenny elected.

Also interesting how in 1968 Fianna Fail tried to get the PR system changed to first past the post to cement themselves into power permanently. But voters rejected that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_constitutional_referendums,_1968

Also interesting how Sinn Fein put up candidates in the Republic who were on their death beds in prison in the North in 1981, relying on the sympathy vote (as opposed to actual merit or ability).

http://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/ad-for-kieran-doherty-h-block-cavan-monaghan-1981-general-election/