Basel V Spurs

Emoran

Even if Adebayor had of scored, I don't think brad would have saved anyway.

**** it anyway... Gutted

irishmover

tom1ie wrote: »

we haven't played well since before the pool game. except for 45 mins against Swansea we have been very poor even with bale and lennon. if you think, going on our previous form from the last 6 games, that we'll beat city or Chelsea and claim 4th your in la la land.

Clubs go in and out of form all season.

As I said, take a look at the table, the games left, the amount of games Chelsea have to play, Arsenal having to play 3 relegation battling sides. The blatant fact Benitez wants a trophy this season and you'll see that you yourself aren't far off la la land.

It is possible, stop being so bloody negative and constant looking at last season.

Emoran

Michael Dawson... Anyone ever slags him off or complains about him will have me to deal with

Captains performance tonight

Deserves to start week in week out with what he does for us

Insp. Harry Callahan

Letting Andros Townsend go on loan is now proving a big mistake, he could have done well tonight- I guess hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Squad looked very stretched tonight

tom1ie

irishmover wrote: »

Clubs go in and out of form all season.

As I said, take a look at the table, the games left, the amount of games Chelsea have to play, Arsenal having to play 3 relegation battling sides. The blatant fact Benitez wants a trophy this season and you'll see that you yourself aren't far off la la land.

It is possible, stop being so bloody negative and constant looking at last season.

yeah clubs go in and out out of form all season but the big clubs don't do it at the end of the season. we also have to play relegation battling sides and in Chelsea a side who want a top 4 finish. so stop being overly optimistic and get your head out of the clouds. And you have to look at last season and the season before that to see our run in form which is shocking

Here Precious2

Emoran wrote: »

Michael Dawson... Anyone ever slags him off or complains about him will have me to deal with

Captains performance tonight

Deserves to start week in week out with what he does for us

Yet he managed to get verts sent off with the control of a donkey

tom1ie

spurs outta Europe football coverage over beer finished good night all talk to you for the city match!

irishmover

tom1ie wrote: »

yeah clubs go in and out out of form all season but the big clubs don't do it at the end of the season. we also have to play relegation battling sides and in Chelsea a side who want a top 4 finish. so stop being overly optimistic and get your head out of the clouds. And you have to look at last season and the season before that to see our run in form which is shocking

From the sounds of it, it seems you only follow Spurs because they provide you with good ammunition to have a right good moan

Basically all you said was that we have as much a chance as any of the teams competing for top 4. You're right, we do.

Take a look at how much this club has changed in 10 months. Being in the quarter final of second tier European football and being still in the shout for CL football is a great achievement. Emphasis on the still in a shout for CL football ofcourse, because we are.

If we don't finish in the top 4 and you come back on here saying 'I told you so' then really and truly you are in la la land.... How anyone could want their club to do bad to prove a point ill never know..

Saab Ed

I really think our only chance of fourth now is if Chelsea implode. Europa plus F.A. cup as well as the league gives them a lot more football than us. Gooners are gonna pip us so lets hope we pip Chelsea.

jobeenfitz

I'm in the optimistic camp. We have a good chance getn top 4. Dempsey scored twice, Ade had a decent game and is showing more interest than he was a month ago. Holtby, Dempsey, Dawson and the boys out on their feet at the end. Good to see Carroll getn some time on the pitch and played well. I suspect Dembelle not 100% tonight, hope he's not injured. If we get Lennon, Bale and Defoe back for last 5 or 6 games no reason why we cant get top 4. Chelsea have games every 3 or 4 days till season end and that does catch up for energy levels and injuries. Come on the Spurs.

KingdomYid

Season destined to end in disappointment as far as I see it, it could happen no other way being a Spurs fan. They always give you hope then cut you down the next minute. We will most probably finish 5th and have to listen to a summer of transfer speculation around our top player,but I tell you one thing would not change them for the world. Tottenham till I die.

Emoran

I'd honestly love to know how he feels now. . .

irishmover

KingdomYid wrote: »

Season destined to end in disappointment as far as I see it, it could happen no other way being a Spurs fan. They always give you hope then cut you down the next minute. We will most probably finish 5th and have to listen to a summer of transfer speculation around our top player,but I tell you one thing would not change them for the world. Tottenham till I die.

There's no hope we'd sell him. His cheeky grin is just too important to the club! Adebayor will remain a Spurs player rest of his career...


All jokes aside, I love how opinions of Adebayor swiftly changed after the Everton game.

jobeenfitz

Very pessimistic Kingdomyid. Dig deep and pull out a little belief. We are gona finish in the top four. I am not just saying this because its what we all want. Have a look at the fixtures and you will see Chelsea have a savage fixture list including three more games in Europa league if they get to final. Two if they dont.

irishmover

This is true as final of Europa league is on 5 days before last game of the season. Lets hope we're in the shout for 3rd or 4th by then aswell!

Leinstersqspur

Just finished watching 105mins of action, 2-2 at half time in extra time only for the didgibox to stop recording.. Melter!

We lost on penalties, that's 50/50 stuff lads, we battled hard, great team effort to see HT out with ten men.

Can't fault the players, can't fault the manager, Dembele looks absolutely spent and this break can't come quick enough for him, big error for their first.

‘It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory.’

Leinstersqspur

Lets not dwell on Adebayors penalty, the smirk on his face came a good few seconds after he had missed and it was obviously a nervous reaction. Don't read into it, whatever The Sun newspaper tells you tomorrow;)

PS. Their keeper (no.1 keeper) is pretty decent, Hugo should have played, that's my only fault on the manager but I guess he was trying to be loyal.. Shame..

Glebee

Emoran wrote: »

I'd honestly love to know how he feels now. . .

My guess is not a fcuk does he give.

Kiith

I don't see the issue with the smirk/smile. It wasn't a 'Yes, i missed' smirk. I sometimes smirk if i do something stupid, and he knows he screwed up.

Disappointed to be out, but i suppose it gives us a better chance of staying in the top 4 now. Didn't get to see the game, but sounds like we struggled at times and made some bad mistakes. Good to see Dempsey get 2 goals, and nice to hear Siggy was supposed to be decent. I'm guessing Jan's red card was deserved (last man and all that)?

Also, I'm happy enough with AVB picking Brad, even with it being an important match. He's still a great keeper, and it gives the fringe players some confidence that if they play well, or get to a certain point in a competition, they won't be immediately dropped for the 1st team.

Hopefully, that was our last ever Europa League game, as we'll be kicking ass in the Champions League from now on

Sugarlumps

Holtby played really well and looks to be fit, never stopped running top marks.
Carroll had a great game, wanna see a lot more of him.

Until the sending off I could only see one winner us, Ade could of squared it to Sigurdsson to nick it. They got a second wind with Jan going off. Bit nervy at the end but still limited them to long range shots. Dembele looked knackered, badly needs a rest.

Really don't know what all the doom and gloom is for? I thought we acquitted ourselves really well, our defence is never going to be rock solid. Six games to go and I'll enjoy them all. All to play for...

mickman

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Holtby played really well and looks to be fit, never stopped running top marks.
Carroll had a great game, wanna see a lot more of him.

Until the sending off I could only see one winner us, Ade could of squared it to Sigurdsson to nick it. They got a second wind with Jan going off. Bit nervy at the end but still limited them to long range shots. Dembele looked knackered, badly needs a rest.

Really don't know what all the doom and gloom is for? I thought we acquitted ourselves really well, our defence is never going to be rock solid. Six games to go and I'll enjoy them all. All to play for...

WOuldnt agree with holtby playing well. He was ok, he reminds me of parker. running all over and getting nothing done.

Sugarlumps

I think your being overly critical on Holtby, he's only new to the team. He's no world beater but what would you expect for the fee? Not exactly sure what his best position will be? Certainly not out on the wing. He can do Parkers job and pick a pass. I'll reserve judgement until he's had a full season under his belt.

golfball37

Emoran wrote: »

Michael Dawson... Anyone ever slags him off or complains about him will have me to deal with

Captains performance tonight

Deserves to start week in week out with what he does for us

He did well and led well but he dives in way too much still. He is constantly over committing to a tackle or an interception which makes him look like a schoolboy when it doesn't come off.

Our problems last night were a lack of pace in our game, At one stage in the 2nd half Dawson took the ball into their half laid it off and stayed running. They were panicking big time but we stopped and went backwards yet again. We are missing Vdv type player more than anything for a game like last night. Without the speed of Lennon/Bale we need a lock picker.

Friedel was terrible for their 2nd goal, absolutely shocking. He should have been out on top of Strella when he came into the box but he hesitated and we conceded a corner. {which should have been a goal kick btw]. His parry was very poor then form the flick header, you can see him look up at Daws just as the net bulges as if to say- My fault. He never even remotely looked like saving a penalty. It reminded me of Shilton vs Germany in 1990.

I thought we played much better last night than in previous weeks however and we should take something from that into the finish.

I've always believed we'd have to win at the Bridge to get top 4 and nothing has changed in that respect. I'm more worried about our home games vs Stoke and Southampton where I just cannot see us getting 6 points at this moment in time.

SuprSi

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Holtby played really well and looks to be fit, never stopped running top marks.
Carroll had a great game, wanna see a lot more of him.

Until the sending off I could only see one winner us, Ade could of squared it to Sigurdsson to nick it. They got a second wind with Jan going off. Bit nervy at the end but still limited them to long range shots. Dembele looked knackered, badly needs a rest.

Really don't know what all the doom and gloom is for? I thought we acquitted ourselves really well, our defence is never going to be rock solid. Six games to go and I'll enjoy them all. All to play for...

I agree with this tbh. I feel this was the best way for us to go out of the competition, matching their result in WHL, scoring 2 away from home, battling with 10 men to make it to penalties where it's a lottery and anything could happen. Although I didn't care too much about the game beforehand I really wanted us to win during it and was disappointed we didn't, however I think most of the lads can be happy/proud of the effort they put in and hopefully that will help in the last few matches of the season.

mickman

Sugarlumps wrote: »

I think your being overly critical on Holtby, he's only new to the team. He's no world beater but what would you expect for the fee? Not exactly sure what his best position will be? Certainly not out on the wing. He can do Parkers job and pick a pass. I'll reserve judgement until he's had a full season under his belt.

fair enough but the way some people were on about him when he joined, you would think he was a world beater.

I think if lloris played last night then we would have won - thought friedal was awful

larry1

Adebayor's run up to Peno :rolleyes:

http://footballfunnys.lockerdome.com/articles/107201577

PogMoThoin

The aftermath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwPQi_ZiaMs

Sugarlumps

mickman wrote: »

fair enough but the way some people were on about him when he joined, you would think he was a world beater.

I think if lloris played last night then we would have won - thought friedal was awful

I think we as fans get excited about any new player joining which is kind of understandable. I knew nothing about him other than that he was loaned out a lot, I think he'll do okay! Good spirit and all that jazz.

I'd imagine that was Brad's last game in a Tottenham jersey? I really like the guy, thought he was an excellent buy. Age catches up with everyone.

mickman

Sugarlumps wrote: »

I think we as fans get excited about any new player joining which is kind of understandable. I knew nothing about him other than that he was loaned out a lot, I think he'll do okay! Good spirit and all that jazz.

I'd imagine that was Brad's last game in a Tottenham jersey? I really like the guy, thought he was an excellent buy. Age catches up with everyone.

yep and i would like brad to stay around spurs in a coaching role cos i love him as well. last night though , he looked as stiff as a board

Ormus

Amazed that people have anything other than love for Dawson, of course he has his faults but how many defenders don't?

Hero.

slegs

Ormus wrote: »

Amazed that people have anything other than love for Dawson, of course he has his faults but how many defenders don't?

Hero.

Dawson was the main reason we weren't dead and long before extra time.

He is our main defender as far as im concerned and should remain club captain.

His benefits far outweigh any weaknesses he has.

Sugarlumps

Dawson is one of those defenders whose motto is do or die, he’d take a bullet for the team. Remember that there hasn’t been a solid partnership all season between cb’s. I’d like to see a proper pairing for next season whomever it will be?

Himself and King were formidable together. We still haven’t lost a game when he’s started this season, last night doesn’t count. He more than makes up for his mistakes in my eyes.

golfball37

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Dawson is one of those defenders whose motto is do or die, he’d take a bullet for the team. Remember that there hasn’t been a solid partnership all season between cb’s. I’d like to see a proper pairing for next season whomever it will be?

Himself and King were formidable together. We still haven’t lost a game when he’s started this season, last night doesn’t count. He more than makes up for his mistakes in my eyes.

We lost 2 in a row recently that he started, Liverpool and Fulham !

Sugarlumps

golfball37 wrote: »

We lost 2 in a row recently that he started, Liverpool and Fulham !

That's that shot down. Whatever man!!

Here Precious2

Dawson will be a squad player next season if not sold....it will be Verts and Kaboul at the back.

Hatch99

Here Precious2 wrote: »

Dawson will be a squad player next season if not sold....it will be Verts and Kaboul at the back.

Hate to say it but I agree, with Caulker in the mix too.

Sugarlumps

Probably right, Caulker has a long way to go though.

jobeenfitz

You never know what next season will bring. I think we done very well in transfers in this season except for lack of decent striker. Lloris, Vertongnen, Dembele and Siggy. If we could bring in three more of this quality for next season, whilst holding onto all our best players we could be challenging for the Premier League for the first time in colour.

Wohoo, come on the Spurs.

Ormus

Here Precious2 wrote: »

Dawson will be a squad player next season if not sold....it will be Verts and Kaboul at the back.

Same thing was said this season and he is now our captain and one of our players of the year.

It's bound to come true eventually though!

Here Precious2

Ormus wrote: »

Same thing was said this season and he is now our captain and one of our players of the year.

It's bound to come true eventually though!

If Kaboul hadn't got injured Dawson wouldn't have got a sniff of the first team this season

jobeenfitz

If Gallas could get a sniff any fcuking body could!

Ormus

Here Precious2 wrote: »

If Kaboul hadn't got injured Dawson wouldn't have got a sniff of the first team this season

Maybe, maybe not.

Injuries aren't an unforeseen circumstance, they're par for the course every season for every club, especially Spurs.

Fact is he did get a sniff and he has excelled.

irishmover

Ormus wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not.

Injuries aren't an unforeseen circumstance, they're par for the course every season for every club, especially Spurs.

Fact is he did get a sniff and he has excelled.

It's well believed that the only reason why Dawson stayed was because AVB needed the cover due to Kaboul's injury.

We were very lucky. Just imagine if Kaboul's got that injury early September after Dawson moved to QPR.

Dawson does deserve alot of credit for his attitude, his desire and his commitment to the club. Players with his enthusiasm don't come along often. However, his ability is lacking. He was largely at fault for one of their goals and that's not the only time. But nobody is perfect. I've been a critic of his for as long as I can remember, I must admit though there is very very few players like Dawson anymore.

In saying all that though it still remains that he either would have left the club or would have been third choice centre half if Kaboul's was fit all season. Therefore who knows what the future holds for him in the 2013/2014 season.

starskey77

do they practice penos spurs when it came to fittness was second best
adaboyore desperate holtby ran all nite but out of his depth.
Over the two legs best team won

Ormus

irishmover wrote: »

It's well believed that the only reason why Dawson stayed was because AVB needed the cover due to Kaboul's injury.

We were very lucky. Just imagine if Kaboul's got that injury early September after Dawson moved to QPR.

Dawson does deserve alot of credit for his attitude, his desire and his commitment to the club. Players with his enthusiasm don't come along often. However, his ability is lacking. He was largely at fault for one of their goals and that's not the only time. But nobody is perfect. I've been a critic of his for as long as I can remember, I must admit though there is very very few players like Dawson anymore.

In saying all that though it still remains that he either would have left the club or would have been third choice centre half if Kaboul's was fit all season. Therefore who knows what the future holds for him in the 2013/2014 season.

Maybe Dawson isn't as fast as Kaboul or as skillful as Vertonghen, but maybe they would have stopped instead of diving in to block that goalbound shot last night. Maybe he doesn't have as much natural ability, but football is about the overall and as a defender he's one of the best we have.

Walker has bags of ability but he's a brutal defender.