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Liveline thread 09/04/2013 to 19/7/2013

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    #4772
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Finally a serious topic being discussed on liveline. This is evil what is being done to these families.


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    #4773
    gjc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭gjc


    "Fit to commit murder.....err well dont say that"..........LOL


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    #4774
    Roger_007
    Registered Users Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Have these people ANY idea of the cost of treating their children. They are entitled to a refund of anything over €140 a month for drugs etc without a medical card. What is all the fuss about. They seem to be more concerned about money than their children's health!


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    #4775
    AK333
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭AK333


    But if her husband is working away, he must be earning, so why can't she afford medical care. Or is it because he has a serious illness that they expect a medical card?


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    #4776
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Have these people ANY idea of the cost of treating their children. They are entitled to a refund of anything over €140 a month for drugs etc without a medical card. What is all the fuss about. They seem to be more concerned about money than their children's health!

    Ah come on now. The government doesn't give a sh1t about people sitting at home on the dole but when it comes to the care of very sick children they cut the benefits.

    The children don't have a vote and becuase there isn't that many it's not a big issue for them.


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    #4777
    Tisserand
    Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Tisserand


    The medical card is means tested and the administrators have to look for paperwork. If they don't, then even Michael O'Leary would be entitled to a medical card.


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    #4778
    gjc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭gjc


    Its a pity Joe doesnt push this as far as he can to help these people, I hope its not gonna become pie in the sky


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    #4779
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    artful_codger wrote: »
    Good ole HSE managers protecting their own T&C's by fcuking over sick people.

    It's not the HSE per say. The administrators are forced to follow guidelines set out by financial experts analysing the accounts looking for savings. If the administrators handed out cards where they shouldn't be they would be fired. The blame here lies with the government.


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    #4780
    gjc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭gjc


    Tisserand wrote: »
    The medical card is means tested and the administrators have to look for paperwork. If they don't, then even Michael O'Leary would be entitled to a medical card.

    I understand where your coming from...but in cancer cases it seems the "solid tumors" dont qualify...


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    #4781
    Tisserand
    Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Tisserand


    Joe should be asking about their earning capacity - i.e. that lady's husband is working. I wonder do they have Sky tv?


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    #4782
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    You can also donate to fixjoe'sleg.ie


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    #4783
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Tisserand wrote: »
    The medical card is means tested and the administrators have to look for paperwork. If they don't, then even Michael O'Leary would be entitled to a medical card.

    As someone else said, you get the medical card depending on your financial circumstances, not depending on your health circumstances.


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    #4784
    Tisserand
    Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Tisserand


    The floodgates would open if medical cards were granted to children with cancer. People of all ages get cancer, many of whom don't have medical cards.


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    #4785
    artful_codger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    Tisserand wrote: »
    The medical card is means tested and the administrators have to look for paperwork. If they don't, then even Michael O'Leary would be entitled to a medical card.

    Where's the joined up thinking and systems? The HSE should have all the information they need on their systems, or revenue systems. If they don't, they're incompetent. We've had paperless systems in the private sector for a couple of decades.


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    #4786
    AK333
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭AK333


    Tisserand wrote: »
    The floodgates would open if medical cards were granted to children with cancer. People of all ages get cancer, many of whom don't have medical cards.

    Well you know what, they bl00dy well should. Get these tossers, drug addicts etc, off their fat lazy ar$es, take their medical cards and use it for the people who have serious illnesses, through no fault of their own, instead of for methadone etc, where these eegits are taking drugs and expect the state to keep them.


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    #4787
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    This is heart-breaking to listen to, it really is. This man sums it up well. It's embarrassing how the State has failed these people. Fun runners raising money to build hospitals while the government piss money away.


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    #4788
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    artful_codger wrote: »
    Where's the joined up thinking and systems? The HSE should have all the information they need on their systems, or revenue systems. If they don't, they're incompetent. We've had paperless systems in the private sector for a couple of decades.

    With this particular issue Joe is chiselling against a gigantic granite elephant, and the elephants name is the HSE. I was watching Ramsays kitchen nightmares last night. I want someone to come into the HSE and do the same thing.


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    #4789
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    AK333 wrote: »
    Well you know what, they bl00dy well should. Get these tossers, drug addicts etc, off their fat lazy ar$es, take their medical cards and use it for the people who have serious illnesses, through no fault of their own, instead of for methadone etc, where these eegits are taking drugs and expect the state to keep them.

    Well said AK.


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    #4790
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Going back to this topic is bizarre after the last 40 minutes of misery.


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    #4791
    gjc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭gjc


    " strangled a dog out the back":eek:


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    #4792
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    He tried to choke the dog, so my father gave him a right clattering to teach him that violence doesnt work..


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    #4793
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    And now we're back to the normal Liveline..... "Way-in" and his antics. These fcukers cost us a hell of a lot more than the people we should be protecting.

    Way-in should be fcuked out to Spike Island and let fend for himself.


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    #4794
    sudzs
    Registered Users Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭sudzs


    "me father gave him a good clattering..."

    and you wonder why Wayne was violent ?? :rolleyes:


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    #4795
    Tisserand
    Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Tisserand


    PauloMN wrote: »
    And now we're back to the normal Liveline..... "Way-in" and his antics. These fcukers cost us a hell of a lot more than the people we should be protecting.

    Way-in should be fcuked out to Spike Island and let fend for himself.

    Bet ya Wayne will have the medical card when he gets out


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    #4796
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    "I'm from Dublin"

    Lol, no ****!


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    #4797
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Im calling BS on this caller. "I don't know the full extent of the matter..."


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    #4798
    AK333
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭AK333


    I bet Wayne gets free medical care


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    #4799
    gjc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭gjc


    Priest and GP afraid of him also..by the sounds of it


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    #4800
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Yeah the church would have sorted him out.


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    #4801
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    syklops wrote: »
    With this particular issue Joe is chiselling against a gigantic granite elephant, and the elephants name is the HSE.

    There is no point in blaming Enda Kenny for this.. it was a mess when he took over and it will be a mess when they hand it over to the next shower. The blame lies at the door of two sets of people... Management in the upper levels of the civil and public service, who can see what is happening in hospitals and are too cowardly and self serving to make the decisions necessary to run a proper health service... Secondly, the unions who put their own members terms and conditions ahead of the lives of small children.. They both should be truly ashamed of themselves..


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