Liveline thread 09/04/2013 to 19/7/2013

Harry Angstrom

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Since when has a FF TD had a conscience?

It must be something in the air on the opposition side of the Dail. Fine Gael and Labour TD's used to have consciences as well, until they crossed the floor.

neris

Really wish that tosspot would stop assuming everyone remembers that murder. I dont remember it and withso many murders going on in dublin its hardly surprising though with a morbid fascination with other peoples suffering and agony hardly surprised if joe hasnt got an interest in any murder since 1756

gjc

Just after seeing this any chance for tomorrows show..I wonder are the "Goldi-locks" Wallace crowd pissing in someone elses camp??

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fifty-shades-of-alan-shatter-steamy-novel-by-justice-minister-referred-to-censor-29284409.html

Harry Angstrom

gjc wrote: »

Just after seeing this any chance for tomorrows show..I wonder are the "Goldi-locks" Wallace crowd pissing in someone elses camp??

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fifty-shades-of-alan-shatter-steamy-novel-by-justice-minister-referred-to-censor-29284409.html

Hilarious
I never had Alan Shatter pegged in the same bracket as Jilly Cooper and Jackie Collins.

neris

gjc wrote: »

Just after seeing this any chance for tomorrows show..I wonder are the "Goldi-locks" Wallace crowd pissing in someone elses camp??

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fifty-shades-of-alan-shatter-steamy-novel-by-justice-minister-referred-to-censor-29284409.html

"The Herald has learned that censors are set to investigate whether Laura: A Story You Will Never Forget is too “obscene” for Irish readers."

1950s here we come. Glad the nanny state is there to decide whats to obscene for me even thought i might not be offended at all. Although an obscene novel and shatter just sounds sick

gjc

Sales of the book will double from one to two...loved the way the article said you can buy it onine for 1c, wouldnt it be gas if alan was a ghost writer for Jilly

syklops

neris wrote: »

Really wish that tosspot would stop assuming everyone remembers that murder. I dont remember it and withso many murders going on in dublin its hardly surprising though with a morbid fascination with other peoples suffering and agony hardly surprised if joe hasnt got an interest in any murder since 1756

How can you not remember it? It was the only murder Clontarf ever had. It was on the front cover of the evening hedald, with a special pull out section on Clontarf.

syklops

gjc wrote: »

Just after seeing this any chance for tomorrows show..I wonder are the "Goldi-locks" Wallace crowd pissing in someone elses camp??

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fifty-shades-of-alan-shatter-steamy-novel-by-justice-minister-referred-to-censor-29284409.html

I was sure this was a pisstake. Life stranger than fiction.

Why did it take 24 years for it to go before the censorship board? Nothing at all to do with the fact its author is now a somewhat unpopular politician. No of course not.

gjc

syklops wrote: »

Why did it take 24 years for it to go before the censorship board? o.

I remember you nearly got penalty points......I remember you nearly wrote a good book...

Lady Chatterton

Roger_007 wrote: »

There is an appeal process for refusals of medical cards. I wasn't aware that it was via Liveline?

Appeals can take up to a year or more to process, if you have a seriously ill child, you can't afford to wait that long.

Dublin_Mom wrote: »

sorry but why do people say 'we are doing a favor for the govt' by looking after their own child?

I mean its very very sad but at the end of the day why should taxpayers money (which might be needed elsewhere) go to people who can afford the medicines? The medical card is not there to compensate you for having a sick child. it is there to help people who genuinely cannot pay.

I am not trying to sound heartless but seriously has our society got to this situation that people expect to
be compensated because they have been dealt a (very) cruel blow?

Wow :eek: I'm surprised you're not calling on people to boycott Daffodil Day :rolleyes:

No one is immune from sickness or disability, any of us (or members of our families) could be handed a life changing diagnosis or be left disabled following an accident at anytime.

I've known people who would have shared your views until serious illness arrived at their own door. The fact of the matter is that if you are unlucky enough to have a child with a serious illness, it normally means that one parent will have leave to work to care for the child. It's not like you can send a sick child off to hospital appointments or for chemo on their own.

Not only is the family down a salary but they have lots of extra expenses - not every one lives in Dublin, so families have to pay for travel to hospital appointments (and sometimes accommodation) in Dublin which can be incredibly expensive. There is also the expense of having other children minded at home while one parent is in Dublin with the sick child and the other parent (if there is another parent) is working. It's not unusual for parents of children with life threatening illness to become ill themselves with stress and depression, which is another burden.

It's all very well saying that people should pay to look after their own children when they become ill but in the real world people have lots of other expenses to deal with and why should they have to worry about the cost of cancer meds and the cost of regular trips to the GP for check-ups on top of the fear of losing their child?

Hitchens

MrsD007 wrote: »

Appeals can take up to a year or more to process, if you have a seriously ill child, you can't afford to wait that long.



Wow :eek: I'm surprised you're not calling on people to boycott Daffodil Day :rolleyes:

No one is immune from sickness or disability, any of us (or members of our families) could be handed a life changing diagnosis or be left disabled following an accident at anytime.

I've known people who would have shared your views until serious illness arrived at their own door. The fact of the matter is that if you are unlucky enough to have a child with a serious medical illness, it normally means that one parent will have leave to work to care for the child. It's not like you can send a sick child off to hospital appointments or for chemo on their own.

Not only is the family down a salary but they have lots of extra expenses - not every one lives in Dublin, so families have to pay for travel to hospital appointments (and sometimes accommodation) in Dublin which can be incredibly expensive. There is also the expense of having other children minded at home while one parent is in Dublin with the sick child and the other parent (if there is another parent) is working. It's not unusual for parents of children with life threatening illness to become ill themselves with stress and depression, which is another burden.

It's all very well saying that people should pay to look after their own children when they become ill but in the real world people have lots of other expenses to deal with and why should they have to worry about the cost of cancer meds and the cost of regular trips to the GP for check-ups on top of the fear of losing their child?

well said, when you have a serious illness in the family (and especially a child) it completely changes your whole outlook on things............and no one knows when they'll get that tap on the shoulder!

withless

Vote for FF! 2 medical cards for everyone! No paperwork to be filled in!

Lady Chatterton

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Jill Kerby stating the blindingly obvious :rolleyes:
I wonder if she'll manage to get her "buy gold" mantra into the conversation?

I remember Jill was doing an item on radio one Christmas, she was recommending that people go through their book and record collections and give unwanted items to family and friends as Christmas presents.

She said she was going to send her nieces and nephews some of her old books.
Lucky them, getting ten years of Tab Guides from Aunty Jill, lol

PauloMN

MrsD007 wrote: »

Lucky them, getting ten years of Tab Guides from Aunty Jill, lol

I'd take them over Shatter's book tbh!

Lady Chatterton

PauloMN wrote: »

I'd take them over Shatter's book tbh!

I've a feeling that Shatter's sex scenes might be as bad as Alan Titchmarsh's. Alan won the 1998 Bad Sex award for raunchy scenes in his novel Mr MacGregor.

Harry Angstrom

MrsD007 wrote: »

I remember Jill was doing an item on radio one Christmas, she was recommending that people go through their book and record collections and give unwanted items to family and friends as Christmas presents.

She said she was going to send her nieces and nephews some of her old books.
Lucky them, getting ten years of Tab Guides from Aunty Jill, lol

That's handy to know. I've got some Youngline annuals from the early 80's. I'm sure the nephews and nieces will appreciate them!

TheVman

That Alan Shatter storybook is weird... I wonder is it in any way semi-autobiographical... wonder is there any threesome hanky panky in it.
Will we get someone who has read the raunchy book on the wireless liveline today.
I spose oklahoma will monopolise the show today...

Have to add, god i hate the "new" independent.ie site even stopped going there in the mornings...
Bring back the old site even if it was 1990's style it was less intrusif and annoying.

gjc

You have to admit this Alan shatter book came completely from left field. I wonder if Wallace is improving his reading skills . Wouldn't it be gas if he got the lead role when it goes to movie. Funniest thing I've read about politics in a long while.

JM Skipton

Noel Curran currently suggesting to an oireachtas committee that RTE top earners wages will be slashed even further.......will Joe tackle this today? or will that elephant in the room grow even larger?

Roger_007

JM Skipton wrote: »

Noel Curran currently suggesting to an oireachtas committee that RTE top earners wages will be slashed even further.......will Joe tackle this today? ..........

In the words of that great philosopher James Gogarty: 'WILL HE FCUK'.:rolleyes:

Hitchens

Those contracted include RTE 'Late Late Show' host Ryan Tubridy. who received €723,000 in 2011. His fee has dropped to €495,000 after he accepted a 32pc pay cut last year.

Current affairs presenter Pat Kenny's fees stood at €630,000 in 2010 and 2011, while his contract is up for renewal this year.

His Prime Time colleague Miriam O’Callaghan was paid €307,000 in 2011. This has dropped to €211,000 in her latest contract.


A pittance really :P

ButtersSuki

Hitchens wrote: »

Those contracted include RTE 'Late Late Show' host Ryan Tubridy. who received €723,000 in 2011. His fee has dropped to €495,000 after he accepted a 32pc pay cut last year.

Current affairs presenter Pat Kenny's fees stood at €630,000 in 2010 and 2011, while his contract is up for renewal this year.

His Prime Time colleague Miriam O’Callaghan was paid €307,000 in 2011. This has dropped to €211,000 in her latest contract.


A pittance really :P

Yes, but if RTE didn't pay those salaries to the incredibly talented "stars" they'd be snapped up in a second by and paid 10 times that by RTE's competitors..................:rolleyes::rolleyes:

neris

on news now. does anyone really value the work done by joe duffy??

joe6pack

I bet ya Joe and Co really wish Obama would get a pay rise.

snubbleste

neris wrote: »

on news now. does anyone really value the work done by joe duffy??

Yes. Joe Duffy's wife and progeny..and FF and the church and the publicans and the landlords of Newry...

Roger_007

neris wrote: »

on news now. does anyone really value the work done by joe duffy??

When you consider ALL the work done by JD, he may well be underpaid:
National Bereavement counsellor,
National Cancer counsellor,
National suicide prevention advisor,
Cold case murder specialist,
Appeals for medical cards and Personal Injury Board payments,
Leader of the Opposition,
Historian
Etc. Etc.

Sure isn't a pay RISE he should get:D

europa11

Well, seeing as Joe has decided to deal with topical issues this week, he might continue with those concerns raised over RTE pay levels.


ah! we're on..............or maybe just talk about death, sew-is-soide and coroners........:rolleyes:

neris

the gory guardian just sounds wrong for a death story

JonathanAnon

Any chance you might let the rest of us know what the fk is going on Joe?

IvyTheTerrible

That's quite unusual to be fair. When my brother's inquest came up, the guards told my parents that there would be journalists in court (because of some of the other cases that were coming up the same day) but that they don't report on "ordinary" suicide cases so not to worry.