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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    JM Skipton wrote: »
    Added to that get the yearly pensions of Cowen, Ahearn, Roche Dempsey et al and I'm sure you could pay 100 special needs teachers yearly.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/burtons-staff-take-the-most-sick-days-29358913.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭JM Skipton


    typical union rep, only concerned in pay and conditions while forgetting about the human cost day in day out. These kids don't give a sh*te about pay and conditions they just want help


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    My wife is a teacher and she absolutely hates having SNAs in her class, (she had 3 of them at one stage). She says that they cause constant disruption looking for special attention for THEIR child.

    Can they not be brought to a different room?:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Tisserand


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Mmm. I might have haddock for dinner.
    It's a grand day out. No sign of rain yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    Teachers too snobby to let 'em in their union.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    is the union guy seeing people being put in a waiting list for a job and if they dont get one within a year then they have the choice of redundancy? do they get paid while on this waiting list?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,873 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Bernard aint doin very well


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    "Solidarity" is the word socialist-Joe is searching for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Meathlass


    Joe's a bit tetchy today isn't he?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭europa11


    Joe quoting another great Socialist....Jack O'Connor :D:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    How much are you on Ber Nard?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    No one should have an automatic job for life, I feel bad for that woman but what about the thousands of women in the private sector who lost their jobs and can't make ends meet? She seems to think she is entitled to a job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭lucylu


    bla bla .. waffle champion 2013


  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭DuckHook


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Bernard aint doin very well

    Hr are frantically checking his CV, communications director you say?


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Tisserand


    No one should have an automatic job for life, I feel bad for that woman but what about the thousands of women in the private sector who lost their jobs and can't make ends meet? She seems to think she is entitled to a job.

    I worked in the private sector. I heard my job was gone when a customer came into the shop and greeted the Manager by saying 'how's business' to which the Manager replied 'bad, I'm actually closing this place down at the weekend'. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    Tisserand wrote: »
    I worked in the private sector. I heard my job was gone when a customer came into the shop and greeted the Manager by saying 'how's business' to which the Manager replied 'bad, I'm actually closing this place down at the weekend'. :eek:

    You should of called Joe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Teachers too snobby to let 'em in their union.
    You have to be a TEACHER to be in a TEACHERS union, the same way you have to a Train driver to be in a train drivers union. These people are NOT teachers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Tisserand wrote: »
    I worked in the private sector. I heard my job was gone when a customer came into the shop and greeted the Manager by saying 'how's business' to which the Manager replied 'bad, I'm actually closing this place down at the weekend'. :eek:

    That was nasty of him, must have been a c**t?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Meathlass


    How do you become an SNA?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Meathlass


    Jesus Joe, they can't join the INTO because it's the teachers' union and they're not teachers!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭europa11


    SNA's can't join a teachers union?? :eek:

    So then none of them can become T.D.'s later on in life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Meathlass wrote: »
    How do you become an SNA?
    You ingratiate your with the school management:rolleyes:. There are no educational qualifications required.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Meathlass


    We got an email from HR about Haddington Road Agreement and the changes it will bring to our jobs from 1st July.

    They don't have any of the details yet and people haven't a clue about the details just the broad changes. Gonna be fun in 10 days!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,121 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Meathlass wrote: »
    We got an email from HR about Haddington Road Agreement and the changes it will bring to our jobs from 1st July.

    They don't have any of the details yet and people haven't a clue about the details just the broad changes. Gonna be fun in 10 days!

    Has it been accepted?


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Tisserand


    That was nasty of him, must have been a c**t?

    To add insult to injury, I got a call from a chap in the agency who hired me that afternoon saying he wanted me to meet him the next day. So we met up and he started by saying 'you are doing a great job and the staff are very pleased with your performance' to which I replied Oh Thank God I heard the boss saying he was shutting the shop so that's a relief. To which he replied 'well he is actually'.

    I didn't even get into with him how appalled I was at the manner in which I found out. F.F.S. That's the private sector for you, you lucky public servants.

    My boss went into a different business afterwards - an Undertaker, just the job for a sensitive, caring, tactful person like him....


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Public Sector needs a radical overhaul, the whole thing needs to be reset, a clause should be put in stating that your job security may be in danger depending on economic conditions like in the real world as well of course of cutting the huge amount of positions that allow people to doss all day, I worked in 3 public sector places and the amount of people doing fcuk all, all day, was amazing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    europa11 wrote: »
    So then none of them can become T.D.'s later on in life.

    Some of them might own a pub and then get to be a TD. Kind of an over-qualification in comparison to being a teacher and becoming a TD I agree, but it occasionally happens. Failing downwards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Meathlass wrote: »
    We got an email from HR about Haddington Road Agreement and the changes it will bring to our jobs from 1st July.

    They don't have any of the details yet and people haven't a clue about the details just the broad changes. Gonna be fun in 10 days!

    Did you not vote on it or did the bearded ones just agree on your behalf?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    30 years as a special needs student

    time to accept defeat caller


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Meathlass


    pc7 wrote: »
    Has it been accepted?

    I didn't think it had and as I'm not in a union I wouldn't be as up to date.

    But the changes are coming in. From next week we've to work an extra 2 hours (or 2.15 hours a week depending on what page you read) and the increments have been frozen from 1st July.

    Though if you're in a Union which has accepted the aggreement you get your next increment, If your Union has said no or if you're not in a Union then you don't!

    No details on how we are to work up the extra time, no details on concession days either. As I said, lots of fun!


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