RTE & the property tax

bgrizzley

dxhound2005 wrote: »

tbh they don't really care about homeowners, they would seize all private property for the state if they had the chance. Is there any evidence that Revenue staff are not sending out letters or processing registrations and payments?

let them try and take it. you see the failure FG/Labour have with the HHC and Property tax debacle (and thats just a rent on our home) you think we would stand idly by if they were going to take it completely.:rolleyes:
first things first, property tax, we will worry about the rest later.

you and me might be standing shoulder to shoulder fighting the communists from our doors yet DX lol

Banjo String

Phoebas wrote: »

She says she will be paying it. All SF TDs say they are going to pay it.
They are 'conviction' politicians, but their convictions don't go as far as to risk not getting a tax clearance cert and risk being suspended from the Dail.

They're happy to let the ordinary people face the consequences of non payment, but not themselves.

That's irrelevant tbh.

I can think for myself. Sure if we all went around emulating politicians and TDs actions and behavior the country would be in a deeper mess.

bastados

Most of the institutions of this country sit on the right , even Labour...its small wonder the small guy scratches his head in disbelieve when nothings done for the common people...look at the last election in Co Meath , wealthy farmers voted in their droves.

The property tax is shaping up to be another triumph for the right..unless something radical takes place to refocus the importance of fixing the poverty , depression and pure unspoken rage that so many people are living with at present.

dxhound2005

bgrizzley wrote: »

let them try and take it. you see the failure FG/Labour have with the HHC and Property tax debacle (and thats just a rent on our home) you think we would stand idly by if they were going to take it completely.:rolleyes:
first things first, property tax, we will worry about the rest later.

you and me might be standing shoulder to shoulder fighting the communists from our doors yet DX lol

de·ba·cle

1. A sudden, disastrous collapse, downfall, or defeat; a rout.
2. A total, often ludicrous failure.

Why would you describe the HHC as a debacle when something like €120 million has been collected and over one million people have given their details? Even the NPPR, brought in by Fianna Fail is collecting around €70 million a year on a completely self registration system so private property owners are mostly a law abiding section of the community.

The far left and the self serving politicians from CAHWT will be nowhere to be seen when ordinary people breaking the law on their advice have to face the consequences.

bgrizzley

dxhound2005 wrote: »

de·ba·cle

1. A sudden, disastrous collapse, downfall, or defeat; a rout.
2. A total, often ludicrous failure.

Why would you describe the HHC as a debacle when something like €120 million has been collected and over one million people have given their details? Even the NPPR, brought in by Fianna Fail is collecting around €70 million a year on a completely self registration system so private property owners are mostly a law abiding section of the community.

The far left and the self serving politicians from CAHWT will be nowhere to be seen when ordinary people breaking the law on their advice have to face the consequences.

you think that it looks good for the government to ring out threat after threat after threat on the people of ireland? culminating in asking the revenue to collect it giving them unparallelled powers-to raid your bank account?, prevent the sale of your own property? to stop a citizen of ireland running for election if they dont have a E2 tax paid?
bullying through a tax that nearly 70% of people polled think is unfair? scaring the bejaysus out of the elderly with their intimidation?

and the worst thing is people are still laughing at them!
Revenue collecting a E2pw tax, while real tax evaders try to keep their Champagne cool in the Caymen Islands sun.

And all for what, so FF and SF can buy votes by recinding the tax next time around. better FG/labour do it now and earn back the respect of the people that voted them in.

So, DX, if you think this has been a success i'd hate to see your definition of failure:eek:

Banjo String

bgrizzley wrote: »

you think that it looks good for the government to ring out threat after threat after threat on the people of ireland? culminating in asking the revenue to collect it giving them unparallelled powers-to raid your bank account?, prevent the sale of your own property? to stop a citizen of ireland running for election if they dont have a E2 tax paid?
bullying through a tax that nearly 70% of people polled think is unfair? scaring the bejaysus out of the elderly with their intimidation?

and the worst thing is people are still laughing at them!
Revenue collecting a E2pw tax, while real tax evaders try to keep their Champagne cool in the Caymen Islands sun.

And all for what, so FF and SF can buy votes by recinding the tax next time around. better FG/labour do it now and earn back the respect of the people that voted them in.

So, DX, if you think this has been a success i'd hate to see your definition of failure:eek:

75% despair of govt.

That's pretty dismal tbh

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shock-poll-75-per-cent-despair-of-government-29194711.html

SamHall

SamHall wrote: »

75% despair of govt.

That's pretty dismal tbh

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shock-poll-75-per-cent-despair-of-government-29194711.html

The Sindo is a FF rag, so this poll is pretty meaningless.

Phoebas

SamHall wrote: »

75% despair of govt.

That's pretty dismal tbh

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shock-poll-75-per-cent-despair-of-government-29194711.html

The poll results don't say anything about despair at all - that's just the spin of a sindo subeditor. I can't believe you fell for that!

The same poll shows a net increase in support for government parties.

dxhound2005

bgrizzley wrote: »

you think that it looks good for the government to ring out threat after threat after threat on the people of ireland? culminating in asking the revenue to collect it giving them unparallelled powers-to raid your bank account?, prevent the sale of your own property? to stop a citizen of ireland running for election if they dont have a E2 tax paid?
bullying through a tax that nearly 70% of people polled think is unfair? scaring the bejaysus out of the elderly with their intimidation?

and the worst thing is people are still laughing at them!
Revenue collecting a E2pw tax, while real tax evaders try to keep their Champagne cool in the Caymen Islands sun.

And all for what, so FF and SF can buy votes by recinding the tax next time around. better FG/labour do it now and earn back the respect of the people that voted them in.

So, DX, if you think this has been a success i'd hate to see your definition of failure:eek:

Threat, bullying, intimidation, scaring the bejaysus out of the elderly? It's only a normal tax that people including the elderly pay everywhere and its much lower here. The country will soon get used to it. The elderly here will remember when they had to pay it before. There is nothing preventing sale of property. Unless people are breaking the law. The Cayman Island types can't escape it in the long run on their Irish properties.

The powers that Revenue have are not unparalelled. They are even exceeded in the North. And look at google to see regular sales by the authorities of what is called delinquent property in the US.

All TD's sign up to the Standards in Public Office which requires them to be tax compliant, I can't see anything wrong with that.

http://www.sipo.gov.ie/en/

bgrizzley

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Threat, bullying, intimidation, scaring the bejaysus out of the elderly? It's only a normal tax that people including the elderly pay everywhere

this is not everywhere this is ireland and 70% of the people dont want this tax

and its much lower here.

two reasons, A. an introductory offer to suck you in and b. you get sweet fanny adams for your money.
and i can guarantee you it wont be low in few years time and you will still be getting SFA for it.
so nip it in the bud now while you still can.

There is nothing preventing sale of property. Unless people are breaking the law.

there was nothing to prevent slavery when it was law either. there was a law here against homosexuality a few years ago, you could go to jail for just being gay.
bad law is bad law anywhere anytime

The Cayman Island types can't escape it in the long run on their Irish properties.

the state might get E200 from their holiday bungalow but they must be rubbing their hand in glee at the fact that the Revenue will be tied up for years collecting all those E2's unable to chase those hidden millions

The powers that Revenue have are not unparalelled. They are even exceeded in the North. And look at google to see regular sales by the authorities of what is called delinquent property in the US.

you never said a truer word and its same thing that will happen here in a few years time, you wont be able to afford your the tax on your home and the state will sell it out from under you and you will be left with nothing only a mortgage around your neck.

All TD's sign up to the Standards in Public Office which requires them to be tax compliant, I can't see anything wrong with that.

that says it all DX. try to remember that TDs arent the only citizens in this country and are not exclusively entitled to run for the dail.
Us lowly plebs are too, when we can wade past the nepotism/cronyism...

Am Chile

Reading over some posts regarding yesterdays protest-one poster said due to the turnout people are accepting a property tax- two points on that (1) a recent opinion poll found that two thirds surveyed in that poll were against a property tax-since property tax was first suggested a couple of years ago most opinion polls I have seen people are completely against a property tax-(2) the turnout yesterday-I wasnt there myself as Im away at the present moment-rte reported on their website 5000 turned up-I have learned over the years whatever attendence figure rte reports for a protest they always played down the numbers-some people have said before about protesting outside tds homes I see from facebook an anti eviction group protested outside joan burtons home earlier today-hopefully the cahwt will also start protesting outside tds homes at some stage in the near future.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=243058505840565&set=a.243058499173899.1073741831.230497473763335&type=1&theater

Dempo1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

@Dempo 1 - out of curiosity, did you pay the Household Charge? If so, you should be able to register and pay online.

I'm going to go on the site tommorow & give it a go, I'm told you need a property number & pin so we will see. I forgot to mention in my original post that my situation is all the more bizzare given I paid the house hold charge & registered my septic tank &.yet revenue don't even know my house exists. Bizzare.

darkhorse

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Riiiiight... that's how this sort of thing works, yes?

1.If I can't tell you the names of everyone he's scammed then NO ONE has been scammed.

2.Is all debt an illusion?

3.If I told you that I could sell you the secret to never paying you bank debt, using secret freeman knowledge, would that be true?

4.If I went to your house, or businessT.

5.If I told people that they could post a freeman sign on my door, and that that would stop, "licence inspectors, Sheriffs, debt collectors, and other such undesirables" from entering your land, would that be true?

6.Can Ben's sign stop the cops from coming onto your land?

1. Hearsay, Your Honour.
2. No, silly.
3. Very doubtful.
4. No-one would ever see you again.
5. No.
6. I would'nt think so.

darkhorse

MilanPan!c wrote: »

The last time he did this he pretended to not understand the question for about an hour, then he pretended I claimed I was a psychic, to try and undermine me, and disappeared off the thread.

He's edited his asinine insult out of that last quote.

So, did you give me any reason to think thats what you were.

I don't know what this one is about

MilanPan!c

darkhorse wrote: »

So, did you give me any reason to think thats what you were.

I don't know what this one is about

Here, I'll play the boldy-texty game too.

NO I DID NOT GIVE YOU ANY REASON.

YOU ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE AN IDIOT, WHEN YOU'RE MOSTLY JUST LYING

Can we do fancy colours next?

MilanPan!c

darkhorse wrote: »

1. Hearsay, Your Honour.
2. No, silly.
3. Very doubtful.
4. No-one would ever see you again.
5. No.
6. I would'nt think so.

1. It's not hearsay, you can see video of the people who've paid into his seminar. So...And you can see him selling his book, so...

2. But you support a politicians who believes and pushes that... how odd.

3. What's doubtful? That you would buy it? I don't know, you're not the honest type, and you always claim to be incredibly confused... perfect mark for this sort of scam I'd think.

4. Nice threat.

5. And yet you support a politician that says just that on his website.

6. And yet you support him. Even though you yourself think he's a liar.


Pretty much sums things up.

donegal_road

dxhound2005 wrote: »

de·ba·cle

1. A sudden, disastrous collapse, downfall, or defeat; a rout.
2. A total, often ludicrous failure.

Why would you describe the HHC as a debacle when something like €120 million has been collected and over one million people have given their details? Even the NPPR, brought in by Fianna Fail is collecting around €70 million a year on a completely self registration system so private property owners are mostly a law abiding section of the community.

The far left and the self serving politicians from CAHWT will be nowhere to be seen when ordinary people breaking the law on their advice have to face the consequences.

"It is morally wrong, unjust and unfair to tax a persons home" - Enda Kenny, 1994

wheres your thoughts on this DXhound?

*I know this quote has been flogged to death recently, I think it is relevant to this discussion all the same.. Im sure you'd agree







.

Banjo String

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

It's still a tax on a family home, which SF are ideologically opposed to (only in the Republic, though). If they are so opposed to it down here, why not up there? Does that not seem hypocritical to you?

The people in the North get a wide array of services provided with the rates system.
Yes it may be more expensive compared to ours (in some instances) but the better value to be had its definitely up north.

Our County councils privatised what they could to relinquish any responsibility from providing services, which we must pay for separate to a property tax, bins alone cost anywhere from 250-400 per annum. (One single example)

Let me put it to you this way.

Would you pay sky €40 per month, yet they provided you with no tv channels or services, and when you want to watch tv you had to pay another bill to UPC?

srsly78

SamHall wrote: »

Our County councils privatised what they could to relinquish any responsibility from providing services, which we must pay for separate to a property tax, bins alone cost anywhere from 250-400 per annum. (One single example)

Competition is a good thing, a new private company came along in Dublin and is now doing my bins for 99/annum.

When the council did the bins it wasn't free, you had to pay them.

Banjo String

srsly78 wrote: »

Competition is a good thing, a new private company came along in Dublin and is now doing my bins for 99/annum.

I'm not in Dublin.

I've a choice of 2 refuse companies.

srsly78 wrote: »

When the council did the bins it wasn't free, you had to pay them.

Yes, I'm aware of that.
Now you'll have to pay them many times more (and they still wont emopty your bins......) they'll gladly pay their county managers up to, and above 150k a year though.... (where will the money for that come from?)

Carlow
County manager (Tom Barry): €132,511
5 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Vet inspector: €94,392
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Chief fire officer: €81,232
* What the top 10 earn: €1,103,986

Cavan
County manager (Jack Keyes): €132,511
4 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
5 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €995,696

Clare
County manager (Tom Coughlan): €142,469
Chief veterinary inspector: €93,436 to €109,927
4 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
2 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
Senior executive officer: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €1,025,383

Cork City
City manager (Tim Lucey): €153,260
Assistant city manager: €90,453 to €106,900
5 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
3 heads of function: €90,453 to €106,900
* What the top 10 earn: €1,115,360

Cork County
County manager (Martin Riordan): €162,062
3 divisional managers: €125,885
Chief vet officer: €93,436 to €111,177
10 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
1 county engineer: €81,077 to €98,379
4 vet inspectors: €60,555 to €94,392
19 senior professionals (engineer/architect/planner/solicitor/scientist): €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,185,394

Donegal
County manager (Seamus Neely): €142,469
5 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
4 senior engineers: €74,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,025,437

Dublin City
City manager (John Tierney): €189,301
City engineer/director of traffic: €142,469
Assistant city manager: €132,511
Head of finance: €132,511
Personnel officer: €132,511
Executive manager: €90,453 to €106,900
Dublin city librarian: €90,453 to €106,900
Financial accountant: €90,453 to €106,900
ICT manager: €90,453 to €106,900
* What the top 10 earn: €1,263,803

Dún Laoighre-Rathdown
County manager (Owen Keegan): €153,260
8 directors of services: €106,900
County law agent: €95,540
County architect: €95,540
* What the top 10 earn: €1,104,000

Fingal
County manager (David O’Connor): €162,062
6 directors of services: €106,900
County architect: €95,540
Law agent: €95,540
5 senior engineers (five of them on the top point of the scale): €73,223 to €87,117
3 senior planners: €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,081,714

Galway city
City manager (Joe O’Neill, acting): €132,511
3 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance and ICT: €90,453 to €106,900
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Senior planner: €73,223 to €87,117
2 management accountants: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €992,615

Galway county
County manager (Martina Moloney): €142,469
5 directors of service: €90,453 to €106,900
2 veterinary inspectors:€60,555 to €94,392
Chief fire officer €76,884 to €91,472
6 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,044,342

Kerry
County manager (Tom Curran): €142,469
6 directors of services: €106,900 (one not in place; seconded to Limerick Regeneration Agency)
Law agent: €95,540
Veterinary inspector: €94,392
Head of finance: €90,453
* What the top 10 earn: €1,064,254

Kildare
County manger (Michael Malone): €153,260
6 directors of service: €86,408 to €106,900
6 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,056,011

Kilkenny
County manager (Joe Crockett): €142,469
3 directors of service: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance €90,453 to €106,900
Veterinary officer: €60,555 to €94,392
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Senior planner: €73,223 to €87,117
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,012,989

Laois
County manager (Peter Carey): €132,511
2 director of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
Senior planner: €73,223 to €87,117
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Financial management accountant: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €888,796

Leitrim
County manager (Jackie Maguire): €132,511
4 director of services: €90,453 to €106,900 Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Veterinary officer: €60,555 to €94,392
* What the top 10 earn: €1,022,754

Limerick city
City manager (Tom Mackey): €142,469
4 directors of service: €98,677 to €106,900
3 senior engineers: €81,886 to €87,117
Senior executive officer: €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €1,006, 258

Limerick county
County manager (Gerry Behan, acting): €142,469
5 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Veterinary officer: €60,555 to €94,393
5 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
Regional waste co-ordinator: €73,223 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €1,052,496

Longford
County manager (Tim Caffrey): €132,511
2 directors of services (plus one acting director of services): €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Senior resident engineer: €80,076
2 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
4 senior executive officer: €64,426 to €84,036
8 senior executive engineers: €62,276 to €78,501
Veterinary inspector: €60,555 to €94,392
2 resident engineers: €59,680 to €68,030
Site technician: €48,147 to €52,363
* What the top 10 earn: €1,066,529

Louth
County manager (Conn Murray) €142,469
5 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
6 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
11 in senior executive officer/financial management accountant/senior social worker/county librarian/head of IT posts: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €1,025,437

Mayo
County manager (Peter Hynes): €142,469
County engineer: €90,453 to €106,900
4 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
Project resident engineer: €88,698
Vet inspector: €60,555 to €94,392
* What the top 10 earn: €1,054,076

Meath
County Manager (Tom Dowling) €153,260
4 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 €106,900
County Vet: €88,898 to €98,945
Project resident engineer: €88,698
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
Senior planner: €73,223 to €87,117
4 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,049,637

Monaghan
County manager (David Fallon): €132,511
2 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Acting director of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Veterinary inspector: €60,555 to €94,392
Senior executive officer: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €999,890

North Tipp
County manager (Joe MacGrath): €132,511
3 directors of service: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Veterinary inspector: €60,555 to €94,392
4 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,002,971

Offaly
County manager (Pat Gallagher): €132,511
4 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
Senior planner: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €995,696

Roscommon
County manager (Frank Dawson): €132,511
3 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Veterinary inspector: €60,555 to €94,392
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,002,971

Sligo County
County manager (Hubert Kearns): €136,509
3 directors of services: €99,970 to €109,268
Senior executive officer: €104,885
Project engineer: €96,167
2 senior engineers: €86,818 to €92,919
Veterinary inspector: €91,336
Chief librarian: €86,573
* What the top 10 earn: €1,012,872

Sligo Borough
Acting director of services: €102,787
Senior executive officer: €81,234
4 senior executive engineers: €71,824 to €76,118
Executive engineer and acting senior executive engineers: €64,373
Executive engineer: €62,374
3 administrative officers: €59,324 to €61,420
* What the top 10 earn: €653,182

South Dublin
County manager (Philomena Poole, acting): €162,062
8 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Project engineer (construction): €87,117
County architect: €78,368 to €95,540
Law agent: €78,368 to €95,540
15 in senior engineer/senior architect/senior planner/parks superintendent/solicitor/health and safety adviser posts: €73,223 to €87,117
* What the top 10 earn: €1,104,379

South Tipp
County manager (Billy McEvoy): €142,469
5 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
4 veterinary inspectors: €60,555 to €94,393
* What the top 10 earn: €1,054,541

Waterford City Council
City manager (Michael Walsh): €132,511
3 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Senior engineer: €73,223 to €87,117
Senior architect: €73,223 to €87,117
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
City librarian: €64,426 to €84,036
Head of information systems: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €989,534

Waterford County Council
County manager (Denis McCarthy): €132,511
4 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
County librarian: €68,496
4 senior executive officer: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €973,994

Westmeath
County manager (Danny McLoughlin) €142,469
2 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Veterinary officer: €60,555 to €94,392
Chief fire officer: €73,223 to €87,117
3 senior engineers: €73,223 to €87,117
County librarian: €64,426 to €84,036
* What the top 10 earn: €990,065

Wexford
County manager (Eddie Breen): €142,469
3 directors of services: €102,787 to €106,900
Head of finance: €94,565
County veterinary officer: €94,392
2 senior engineers: €87,117
Chief fire officer: €84,500
Senior engineer: €84,500
* What the top 10 earn: €991,247

Wicklow
County manager (Eddie Sheehy): €142,469
6 directors of services: €90,453 to €106,900
Head of finance: €90,453 to €106,900
Law agent: €78,368 to €95,540
Veterinary inspector: €60,555 to €94,392
* What the top 10 earn: €1,080,701

Bear in mind this doesnt take their pensions into account either.....
Nice work if you can get it.....

bgrizzley

SamHall wrote: »

I'm not in Dublin.

I've a choice of 2 refuse companies.






Yes, I'm aware of that.
Now you'll have to pay them many times more (and they still wont emopty your bins......) they'll gladly pay their county managers up to, and above 150k a year though.... (where will the money for that come from?)



Bear in mind this doesnt take their pensions into account either.....
Nice work if you can get it.....

inb4 "its only around 50 million" and "those 300 people would get better salaries in the private sector"

Banjo String

bgrizzley wrote: »

"those 300 people would get better salaries in the private sector"

Well then they should be let go, into the private sector where the tax payer doesnt foot the bill for the enormous salary.

They wont like the business model that most private companies adopt though, that once the business starts struggling or losing money, they woulkd be let go or take a huge pay cut.

DoesNotCompute

So it looks like Jim Corr is going to get his day in court.

Let's see how the Freeman defence stands up in front of a judge :pac:

bgrizzley

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

So it looks like Jim Corr is going to get his day in court.

Let's see how the Freeman defence stands up in front of a judge :pac:

tsk tsk tsk, property deals....

... if he plays his cards right he might get into Stubbs Gazette:pac:


http://www.thejournal.ie/pictures-james-reilly-stubbs-gazette-defaulters-list-516285-Jul2012/

Banjo String

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

So it looks like Jim Corr is going to get his day in court.

Let's see how the Freeman defence stands up in front of a judge :pac:

Good auld Jim.

Apparently he was going to run away, but was afraid of being left breathless, so he's decide d that this is the right time to appear in front of the judge.


The judge will probably tell him that he's forgiven. Not forgotten.

Le_Dieux

Phoebas wrote: »

Did you ever post that link you mentioned in the OP?

Apologies, been ill so not on for a few days. Here we are:

http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A20186511%3A83%3A09%2D04%2D2013%3A

Le_Dieux

Deleted User wrote: »

And who elected this person to any position? NO ONE. He was third reserve for Joe Higgins in Europe. Speaking of Joe, he's gone very quiet lately.

Speaking of JH...I also note he's gone quiet...which is good. While I am on the 'NO' side, I most certainly would never regard myself as a JH follower. The bloke was caught out...going around ( during the HHC ) advising people not to pay, but claiming money from the state to pay his travel expenses.

Typical of a TD....wants his bread buttered on both sides!

Phoebas

Le_Dieux wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks RTE are being one-sided in payment of this cursed PT? Mary Wilson, bless Her she sounded nice and fresh after her easter break, had a woman on the programme this evening talking as if everyone is paying this tax. Is everyone? I know I'm not, as I haven't got the money for one thing. But am I in the minority here?

Or are RTE trying to satisfy their paymasters by being one-sided with what they broadcast? I have yet to hear a programme where they pit a pro against an anti in a discussion on RTE radio ( which I listen to almost all the time).

PS: I will post a link for that interview mentioned above when they put it up on the net - I think they only put the podcasts up 24 hours after the broadcast.

Le_Dieux wrote: »

Apologies, been ill so not on for a few days. Here we are:

http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A20186511%3A83%3A09%2D04%2D2013%3A

Just listened to it. It was a pretty straightforward fact based interview with a tax specialist, not a political interview, so I don't know why you would expect her to express any view on the pros or cons of the tax itself.

Le_Dieux

Phoebas wrote: »

The RTE figure came from the Gardai.
It was a very small turnout and illustrates an acceptance of the property tax.

I notice that SF TDs are going to pay their property tax bills now and only 7 TDs (Independents) are saying they are going to hold out.

Got news for You PB...I wasn't at the march, but I DO NOT accept the LPT. OK?

Le_Dieux

Phoebas wrote: »

What cinema is showing this fantasy tale?

I started this thread by nailing my colours firmly in the 'NO' camp. I have also read the 26 pages, and tried to look at both sides meaningfully.

HOWEVER, when someone starts their snide smart ass remarks ala the one enclosed, I think it's time to look the other way.