Welfare office MANAGER jailed for scamming the system

B.A._Baracus

Have to say that it sounded like a very stupid plan (Not that I am a genius or anything :P )

(1,) His whole plan was based on the the idea that someone else in the social welfare wouldnt see the over-payment is bloody risky (2,) Asking people to meet outside the social welfare building to give the cash is just stupid.

Montroseee

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Have to say that it sounded like a very stupid plan (Not that I am a genius or anything :P )

(1,) His whole plan was based on the the idea that someone else in the social welfare wouldnt see the over-payment is bloody risky (2,) Asking people to meet outside the social welfare building to give the cash is just stupid.

Reeks of desperation, have to feel sorry for the man, hopefully he can overcome his gambling problem.

wonderfullife

To be honest, i think it's a pretty harsh sentence.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/post-office-gambling-addict-who-stole-175m-is-jailed-28949700.html

^ ^ The lad who stole €1,750,000 from the Post Office got 3 years.

This guy steals 1% of that and gets 18 months.

Not sure where the consistency lays here.

The only victims in this case were us, the taxpayer, and we lost roughly €0.001 cent per person over this. Yet we've had some cowboys rip us off for millions, if not billions, in recent years who are still free to walk the streets.

Justice indeed.

Joe10000

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well?

I couldn't see through the electrified copper clad 7ft gates and there were two dogs jumping up on the faux Roman columns trying to get to me so i backed away, sorry.

schnitzelEater

Makes a bit of a mockery of the 'jobs for life' claims around the public sector though...at least he has the pension.

JuliusCaesar

An EO is fairly low down in the hierarchy of the Civil Service, with a salary scale of 27K-45K. They generally wouldn't be in charge of anything, so if he was in effect in charge of the office which had trebled its workload without additional staff, his mother was seriously ill, he's living at home in his 30s, AND he has a gambling problem - yes, you might acknowledge that he was stressed. Of course he shouldn't have stolen the money, but he probably wasn't thinking too clearly.

Now he has no job, no career, time in prison, and when he comes out difficulty getting another job and a reduced pension. Punishment enough?

yermandan

No wonder he thought he could get away with it, he is a King!

'King of Springhill Avenue, Blackrock, pleaded guilty to four sample counts relating to the theft of €16,957 at the Social Welfare Office, Cumberland Street between April 2010 and August 2011.'

9959

Joe10000 wrote: »

I couldn't see through the electrified copper clad 7ft gates and there were two dogs jumping up on the faux Roman columns trying to get to me so i backed away, sorry.

That's my house you fukcwit, I could see you prancing about in my monitor, he's next door, I love your Cerise 'shell suit' by the way.

Oranage2

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

An EO is fairly low down in the hierarchy of the Civil Service, with a salary scale of 27K-45K. They generally wouldn't be in charge of anything, so if he was in effect in charge of the office which had trebled its workload without additional staff, his mother was seriously ill, he's living at home in his 30s, AND he has a gambling problem - yes, you might acknowledge that he was stressed. Of course he shouldn't have stolen the money, but he probably wasn't thinking too clearly.

Now he has no job, no career, time in prison, and when he comes out difficulty getting another job and a reduced pension. Punishment enough?

Same with poor anto with the drug addiction, he's living at home with his mother too and was sent down for robbing an old lady, now he's in jail with no career, no job and when he comes out he'll find it hard to get another job, punishment enough :rolleyes:

Give me a break and save the sob stories for the tabloids!

Ray Palmer

Oranage2 wrote: »

Same with poor anto with the drug addiction, he's living at home with his mother too and was sent down for robbing an old lady, now he's in jail with no career, no job and when he comes out he'll find it hard to get another job, punishment enough :rolleyes:

Give me a break and save the sob stories for the tabloids!

A large fall in standard of living with little chance of getting a similar paid job is a big drop. A non-violent crime in the end of the day which is pretty different from robbing an old lady.

Not sure if the prison term was needed but at the same time it is fair enough. Prison should be more about rehabilitation than punishment. There really isn't any chance he will do the same again.

Junkie is likely to reoffend.

9959

Oranage2 wrote: »

Same with poor anto with the drug addiction, he's living at home with his mother too and was sent down for robbing an old lady, now he's in jail with no career, no job and when he comes out he'll find it hard to get another job, punishment enough :rolleyes:

Give me a break and save the sob stories for the tabloids!

Sob stories/tabloids?

Mr Benevolent

Montroseee wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/welfare-office-worker-jailed-for-stealing-nearly-17-000-in-scam-1.1355983

Nice to know to its not just the welfare tourists we have to watch out for :mad:. Sick to the stomach at the pitiful sentence he got though, 16 months = out in 6 months most likely. As a manager/senior civil servant and with a Blackrock address, I'm sure he was very well paid.

Ah Joe.

Montroseee

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Ah Joe.

:rolleyes: .Nice contribution. Take a look at a mod's post a few pages back.

Oranage2

Ray Palmer wrote: »

A large fall in standard of living with little chance of getting a similar paid job is a big drop. A non-violent crime in the end of the day which is pretty different from robbing an old lady.

Not sure if the prison term was needed but at the same time it is fair enough. Prison should be more about rehabilitation than punishment. There really isn't any chance he will do the same again.

Junkie is likely to reoffend.

And the guy has only himself to blame for that drop in living, he knew what he was doing, I feel no sympathy for the guy.

paddy147

Montroseee wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/welfare-office-worker-jailed-for-stealing-nearly-17-000-in-scam-1.1355983

Nice to know to its not just the welfare tourists we have to watch out for :mad:. Sick to the stomach at the pitiful sentence he got though, 16 months = out in 6 months most likely. As a manager/senior civil servant and with a Blackrock address, I'm sure he was very well paid.

Still gets his pension aswell...

So thats where all the confirmation/communion payment went to this year.:pac::pac:

Ray Palmer

Oranage2 wrote: »

And the guy has only himself to blame for that drop in living, he knew what he was doing, I feel no sympathy for the guy.

The same way all addicts have only themselves to blame:rolleyes:

Never really said sympathy just that jail time doesn't really get any benefit here. It actually costs quite a lot of money to have in jail and maybe more than he ever stole. Community work would have been a better use.

Addiction is normally a sign of another underling problem.

schnitzelEater

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Junkie is likely to reoffend.

So do we all get this free pass, or just the public sector?