Flight Fest (Vulcan fly past)

urajoke

Manuel wrote: »

I need to clear this up before traveling ... won't most of us be just looking up at the underbelly of these beautiful planes?

Depends on where you view from

DOCARCH

Manuel wrote: »

... won't most of us be just looking up at the underbelly of these beautiful planes?

That's what I have been thinking too for a while!

Even those with aparent great vantage points along the quays (access to apartment balconies and office roof tops, etc.), if a/c are at 800ft, at their lowest, it will pretty much be an underbelly show?

Any suggestions of good vantage points back a little bit from the Liffey?

SachaJ

DOCARCH wrote: »

That's what I have been thinking too for a while!

Even those with aparent great vantage points along the quays (access to apartment balconies and office roof tops, etc.), if a/c are at 800ft, at their lowest, it will pretty much be an underbelly show?

Any suggestions of good vantage points back a little bit from the Liffey?

IMO anywhere 100m to 400m back from the Liffey should give you a good view

DOCARCH

SachaJ wrote: »

IMO anywhere 100m to 400m back from the Liffey should give you a good view

That's what I was thinking...probably the later (maybe 200m to 400m mark) considering the wingspan of an A380 is approx. 80m and probably the Liffey, near the Custom House would not be significantly wider, viewing from the Quays (with the mssess) may lead to some disappointment (and a sore neck)!

Just to note...I am not giving out! The Flight Fest is a fantastic idea and hats off to the those who initiated it and the organisers...but...just wondering now is it in the right place?

Shamrock231

Guinness Store House in the Glass Room up high anyone?

DOCARCH

Shamrock231 wrote: »

Guinness Store House in the Glass Room up high anyone?

Too far away from the action I'd suggest.

Frank Jnr

Shamrock231 wrote: »

Guinness Store House in the Glass Room up high anyone?

The aircraft will have turned and climbed well before the Storehouse, they will be up high at the Custom House.

Shamrock231

Ringsend Park?

DOCARCH

Shamrock231 wrote: »

Ringsend Park?

Possibly...was thinking of somewhere like that myself.

Just to put in persepective, If viewing from the Quays. Liberty Hall is just under 200ft high (approx. 195ft IIRC). Aircraft, at their lowest, will be at 800ft!

My neck feels really sore now! :P

Tenger

Shamrock231 wrote: »

Ringsend Park?

I'm thinking this is going to be a great spot. (Reasonably) Uncluttered surroundings, away from the crowds, offset to allow side view, perfect to catch the a/c descend...

Rascasse

Both the Gibson and Marker hotels have rooftop bars and are a little back from the quays, might be worth seeing if they'll be open for it.

andy_g

Rascasse wrote: »

Both the Gibson and Marker hotels have rooftop bars and are a little back from the quays, might be worth seeing if they'll be open for it.

Beer and Flightfest sounds like heaven :O so........ tempting :cool:

Jpb7

I'm heading of to Alexandra road towards the Irish Ferry terminal i dont know how to post t a picture pic to show you all but were im gonna place my arse at least you'll get a side view if most of the aircraft ....
Anyway think of the noise!!!!!!!! The Vulcan howl......... if you've never seen the Vulcan brfore your in for a treat

Also I'm assuming that some of the pilots may perform a kind of " wave or wing tilt as they pass by it depend too if your a "watcher or a "snapper"

which brings me to crowd control gripes !

I hope the A FRAME SUPER 800mm lens jocks don't ruin it for the rest of us

radar0976

Jpb7 wrote: »

I'm heading of to Alexandra road towards the Irish Ferry terminal i dont know how to post t a picture pic to show you all but were im gonna place my arse at least you'll get a side view if most of the aircraft ....
Anyway think of the noise!!!!!!!! The Vulcan howl......... if you've never seen the Vulcan brfore your in for a treat

Also I'm assuming that some of the pilots may perform a kind of " wave or wing tilt as they pass by it depend too if your a "watcher or a "snapper"

which brings me to crowd control gripes !

I hope the A FRAME SUPER 800mm lens jocks don't ruin it for the rest of us

Agreed. I know it may sound elitist (and I certainly don't mean it to) but wouldn't it be nice to have a dedicated spotters area for those of us who do this year round. Being honest I'd happily pay to get into such an area if it meant I could set up my camera without being jostled in the middle of a large crowd.

I know it's not going to happen, just a thought.

Jpb7

radar0976 wrote: »

Agreed. I know it may sound elitist (and I certainly don't mean it to) but wouldn't it be nice to have a dedicated spotters area for those of us who do this year round. Being honest I'd happily pay to get into such an area if it meant I could set up my camera without being jostled in the middle of a large crowd.

I know it's not going to happen, just a thought.

Agreed

On a worrying note ..
any fan of the PBY CATALINA will have seen the PORTRUSH AIRSHOW Facebook page at the weekend
The Catalina had engine trouble and pulled out off the Sunday display

I hope. This little blip doesn't put them off coming to Dublin :-(

Nforce

Jpb7 wrote: »

Agreed

On a worrying note ..
any fan of the PBY CATALINA will have seen the PORTRUSH AIRSHOW Facebook page at the weekend
The Catalina had engine trouble and pulled out off the Sunday display

I hope. This little blip doesn't put them off coming to Dublin :-(

The Vulcan had an issue at the weekend too(fuel leak iirc) that meant it had to pull out of the Doncaster show.

LXFlyer

Jpb7 wrote: »

I'm heading of to Alexandra road towards the Irish Ferry terminal i dont know how to post t a picture pic to show you all but were im gonna place my arse at least you'll get a side view if most of the aircraft ....
Anyway think of the noise!!!!!!!! The Vulcan howl......... if you've never seen the Vulcan brfore your in for a treat

Also I'm assuming that some of the pilots may perform a kind of " wave or wing tilt as they pass by it depend too if your a "watcher or a "snapper"

which brings me to crowd control gripes !

I hope the A FRAME SUPER 800mm lens jocks don't ruin it for the rest of us

Beware that the harbour police don't really encourage people into the port area, including Alexandra Road - I imagine that access will be controlled on that day.

Peregrine

I was thinking of heading over to Ringsend Park myself. That or the abandoned dry docks on the Grand Canal.

Nforce

Just spotted on Facebook that an RAF C130 Herc will participate too.

Jpb7

lxflyer wrote: »

Beware that the harbour police don't really encourage people into the port area, including Alexandra Road - I imagine that access will be controlled on that day.

I thought that too
so I was thinking rather than turning right (if you know the area) that will take you to the passanger terminal and you will probable told to move
I was thinking if you don't turn right and keep going straight ahead you will eventually run out of road and you have a grass verge and rocks and a clear view of the "Chimmneys"
with the entrance where the aircraft will be cleared for approach
I've been there before waiting on a passanger and killing some time trouble is though the trade off is the altitude at 1700 that's pretty high

Also the A380 pilot I think Is planning an interesting departure from the flypast so I reckon the Vulcan pilot could perform his signature "wing over manoeuvre

LXFlyer

Jpb7 wrote: »

I thought that too
so I was thinking rather than turning right (if you know the area) that will take you to the passanger terminal and you will probable told to move
I was thinking if you don't turn right and keep going straight ahead you will eventually run out of road and you have a grass verge and rocks and a clear view of the "Chimmneys"
with the entrance where the aircraft will be cleared for approach
I've been there before waiting on a passanger and killing some time trouble is though the trade off is the altitude at 1700 that's pretty high

Also the A380 pilot I think Is planning an interesting departure from the flypast so I reckon the Vulcan pilot could perform his signature "wing over manoeuvre

Indeed but I suspect that all access to the port area (i.e. at Alexandra Road, Promenade and at Tolka Quay Road) will be controlled to only those who have business in the port.

In other words I doubt you will get beyond East Wall Road.

Jpb7

lxflyer wrote: »

Indeed but I suspect that all access to the port area (i.e. at Alexandra Road, Promenade and at Tolka Quay Road) will be controlled to only those who have business in the port.

In other words I doubt you will get beyond East Wall Road.

I'm lucky enough to be near a dart station so if that's the case then I might not risk it and just get to connoly then I can decide.....
So i get the Luas towards the O2???? or stay at memorial bridge it gonna be STUFFED if the weather is as good as the past few days !!!!

Mech1

Im relying on you guys for "quality" vids and pics, I will be stuck here at the puter making sure the feed stays up and locking out uninteresting freq etc.

But you have your fun im ok:mad:










Only joking im gonna love my job for the day:D
we should have a few close encounters with the flights passing here anyway.

Mech1

looking for a new Highest Listener record as well so be sure to tune in!

westdub

Tenger wrote: »

I'm thinking this is going to be a great spot. (Reasonably) Uncluttered surroundings, away from the crowds, offset to allow side view, perfect to catch the a/c descend...

The only thing is the park is surrounded by high trees that will limit any views of the aircraft, I don't think the chimneys are even visible from inside the park..

Shamrock231

westdub wrote: »

The only thing is the park is surrounded by high trees that will limit any views of the aircraft, I don't think the chimneys are even visible from inside the park..

Haven't been there since I was about 6-7 years old, so I haven't a clue what it's like at the minute...

keith16

Keep the suggestions for viewing spots coming! I want to avoid town / crowds if possible!

Will have my one year old son with me, not sure if he will need ear-muffs?

I'm thinking to head down to Sandymound strand....really not sure...

urajoke

The beach south of the chimneys ?

HeidiHeidi

urajoke wrote: »

The beach south of the chimneys ?

That could be a very good shout.... low tide is at 1.10pm, so lots of beach to walk on, and should be fairly easy to access.

I may even consider foregoing my brother's fifth-floor balcony on the south quays in favour of it, given the opinions expressed lately......!

westdub

urajoke wrote: »

The beach south of the chimneys ?

You might see a few photographers down there....;)

Air Boss

Mech1 wrote: »

looking for a new Highest Listener record as well so be sure to tune in!

Mech1
A technical question
Will the Flight Fest frequencies but separate to Dublin frequencies or on the same feed
and Tks for all your effort you are a legend

Max001

http://youtu.be/PTDYcuoOKkM

BBC TV programme about the Vulcan raid on
the Falklands in 1992. Sometimes hilarious,
sometimes breath-taking.

Never seen a 'tin triangle' up close and always wanted to.
Can't wait

SachaJ

So just to confirm a few things....

• by the chimneys the aircraft must be on the flight path heading for the Liffey
• by the chimneys do they have to be at 800ft or is it 800ft by the Eastlink bridge?
• they will be at 800ft until Samual Beckett bridge
• by the Customs House they will have climbed to 1700ft
• after the customs house they will commence a left hand turn towards Dun Laoghaire

So I'm guessing the Vulcan will get louder after Samual Beckett.....

Mech1

Air Boss wrote: »

Mech1
A technical question
Will the Flight Fest frequencies but separate to Dublin frequencies or on the same feed
and Tks for all your effort you are a legend

Only the one feed available im afraid, so on the day we will be dropping lots of the current freq in order to concentrate on the flightfest ones.

I imagine some of the current lot will be staying in as they will be directing show traffic to the event. But the likes of op's and the "upper level" stuff will be gone.

Pat.

Tenger

Mech1 wrote: »

Only the one feed available im afraid, so on the day we will be dropping lots of the current freq in order to concentrate on the flightfest ones.

I imagine some of the current lot will be staying in as they will be directing show traffic to the event. But the likes of op's and the "upper level" stuff will be gone.

Makes sense on the day to focus on FlightFest related chatter.

Need to get a new phone, then get the LiveATC app on it in time for this.....

LXFlyer

SachaJ wrote: »

So just to confirm a few things....

• by the chimneys the aircraft must be on the flight path heading for the Liffey
• by the chimneys do they have to be at 800ft or is it 800ft by the Eastlink bridge?
• they will be at 800ft until Samual Beckett bridge
• by the Customs House they will have climbed to 1700ft
• after the customs house they will commence a left hand turn towards Dun Laoghaire

So I'm guessing the Vulcan will get louder after Samual Beckett.....

1700ft at the chimneys, 800ft by Eastlink Bridge

SachaJ

westdub wrote: »

The only thing is the park is surrounded by high trees that will limit any views of the aircraft, I don't think the chimneys are even visible from inside the park..

I'd say you would be safe enough considering that the aircraft will be at least twice the height of the Poolbeg chimneys when they are passing (chimneys @ 680ft and the aircraft will be descending from 1700ft).

Irishtown Park anyone? Further back than the beach behind Poolbeg, slightly closer to Eastlink bridge and a few dozen feet above sea level

https://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.336293,-6.196568&spn=0.007009,0.021136&t=h&z=16

shamwari

Ok, this is not to put a dampener on things but XH558 is in trouble.

It was diagnosed with a fuel tank leak over the weekend and a display this coming weekend at RAF Leuchars has been cancelled. It is unclear whether the defective tank can be repaired or if a new one needs to be made.

Fingers crossed that this can be fixed for Flightfest

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/494/82/Update-on-fuel-leak.html

Nforce

shamwari wrote: »

Ok, this is not to put a dampener on things but XH558 is in trouble.

It was diagnosed with a fuel tank leak over the weekend and a display this coming weekend at RAF Leuchars has been cancelled. It is unclear whether the defective tank can be repaired or if a new one needs to be made.

Fingers crossed that this can be fixed for Flightfest

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/494/82/Update-on-fuel-leak.html

Yep, I mentioned the leak yesterday. Hopefully the issue can be resolved quickly. The Vulcan is,for me, the main attraction in Flightfest.

Frank Jnr

I think a lot of people have their fingers crossed in the hope that the Vulcan is fixed in time and can make it over

shedweller

Frank Jnr wrote: »

I think a lot of people have their fingers crossed in the hope that the Vulcan is fixed in time and can make it over

Not looking good:
http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/showthread.php?p=532318
No.7 fuel tank located near the rear of the wing and is hard to get to.

EchoIndia

Someone should organise an RAF VC10 as a substitute noisy large jet. The type has only a few weeks to run in service and no doubt they could use up a bit of airframe life by doing a hop over to Flightfest and back!

Mech1

Has anyone thought of just bypassing fuel tank 7 and running on the others?

Just an idea since its gonna be retired soon anyway.

or maybe its more complicated than that, I fix cars not aircraft!!!

shedweller

Mech1 wrote: »

Has anyone thought of just bypassing fuel tank 7 and running on the others?

Just an idea since its gonna be retired soon anyway.

or maybe its more complicated than that, I fix cars not aircraft!!!

Im sure its possible. The leak may even be where the pipework connects so the act of bypassing would fix the leak and negate the need to bypass in the first place!!
Or the leak could be half way along the wing with the pipework similarly hard to get to. I'll do some research on the plumbing and see what they are faced with. And whether we'll see the vulcan or not.

glock34

Hi
Is RTE going to televise the flight fest and if not why not

Nforce

Mech1 wrote: »

Has anyone thought of just bypassing fuel tank 7 and running on the others?

Just an idea since its gonna be retired soon anyway.

or maybe its more complicated than that, I fix cars not aircraft!!!

It'd probably upset the handling/balance of the aircraft.

urajoke

glock34 wrote: »

Hi
Is RTE going to televise the flight fest and if not why not

No. Might be covered by a two camera OB unit for news etc.

glock34

urajoke wrote: »

No. Might be covered by a two camera OB unit for news etc.

That's crap some of us have to work weekends

emo72

if theres no vuccin vulcan, some serious amount of toys are gonna get vucced outta the pram.

jamo2oo9

glock34 wrote: »

Hi
Is RTE going to televise the flight fest and if not why not

Only for the news. Same reason why Paris and Farnborough aren't aired live.