Stoke City vs Manchester United Match Thread 14/04/2012 k.o 14.05 SkySports.

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Probable Lineups:

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Reports from todays papers that Pulis could be sacked if United hammer Stoke,the way we've been meandering through games lately,his job is safe.

2-1 to United.

Kerrigooney

Hard to know how this will go. Stoke have been very poor lately but Utd have looked very lethargic as well. Could be an awful game. Games involving Stoke are rarely entertaining.

klose

Hope united hammer em and put em that bit closer to the drop.

The_Kew_Tour

Not overly confident of 3 points. Confident too that we wont lose but has makings of a 1-0 to United and another poor performance.

Kerrigooney

klose wrote: »

Hope united hammer em and put em that bit closer to the drop.

I agree. It's gonna be strange watching a Utd game and hoping they win.

I really cannot stand Stoke tho. Sooner they're gone the better.

Come on Utd. Oh the shame.

CSF

zerks wrote: »

Reports from todays papers that Pulis could be sacked if United hammer Stoke,the way we've been meandering through games lately,his job is safe.

2-1 to United.

That would surely be up there with the most outrageous sackings in Premiership history.

Nalz

Its odd how many neutrals will be wanting United to win today even though a Stoke win would make the title race interesting!

Lotsa love for Stoke out there

tossy

I'll back the draw i think. RSVP to fire blanks again - sign of the times for united

b757

Two goals min for united il be looking for today. United hopefully a clean sheet too. We need to get off this recent form and destroy the few teams we have left to play. Although stoke can be a tough team to beat, I think we can do it in style.

Hopefully RVP or Rooney can get atleast one, then Carrick if he is playing.

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Good news: Niall Quinn is co-commentating on the Newcastle v Sunderland game.

Will I Amnt

zerks wrote: »

Good news: Niall Quinn is co-commentating on the Newcastle v Sunderland game.

It will probably by Davy Provan with Tyler. Against Stoke it could turn out to be the David De Gea show with them pair. :rolleyes:

Gringo180

I hope Utd absolutely batter the anti-football brigade and send Pulis to the job centre.

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Any teams?

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Copper_pipe wrote: »

Rooney, RVP and Chico start

Full teams?

Copper_pipe

MrMac84 wrote: »

Any teams?

Rooney, RVP and Chico start

Copper_pipe

united team,

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenSmithBBC/status/323407832181534721?p=v

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MUFC; De Gea, Vidic, Evra, Jones, Ferdinand, Kagawa, Carrick, Valencia, Rooney, Hernandez, van Persie.

Paul Tergat

Subs; Lindegaard, Evans, Giggs, Smalling, Welbeck, Cleverley, Buttner

u140acro3xs7dm

zerks wrote: »

MUFC; De Gea, Vidic, Evra, Jones, Ferdinand, Kagawa, Carrick, Valencia, Rooney, Hernandez, van Persie.

Will that be Rooney or kagawa beside Carrick?

adox

It's amazing how many starts Valencia is getting.

Paul Tergat

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

Will that be Rooney or kagawa beside Carrick?

Kag, looks like rooney left mid

strange selection really but im guessing fergie is planning with 3 games in a week

adox

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

Will that be Rooney or kagawa beside Carrick?

Could be Jones with Valencia at RB.

u140acro3xs7dm

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Kag, looks like rooney left mid

Any time Stoke have the ball it will be going over the heads of the midfielders anyway.

u140acro3xs7dm

adox wrote: »

Could be Jones with Valencia at RB.

Id imagine jones will play left back just for his arial ability

Blatter

adox wrote: »

Could be Jones with Valencia at RB.

What I would have thought but MUTV seem to think it's Rooney CM with Carrick, Kagawa on the left and Valencia on the right, Jones right back. Maybe they're just guessing as well.

adox

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

Id imagine jones will play left back just for his arial ability

Evra.

Paul Tergat

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

Any time Stoke have the ball it will be going over the heads of the midfielders anyway.

Rooney is too good to be played out of position. Its really annoying

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

Id imagine jones will play left back just for his arial ability

RB surely?

u140acro3xs7dm

Sorry i meant Right Back. Would be very strange if evra didn't pay left back.

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Paul Tergat wrote: »

Rooney is too good to be played out of position. Its really annoying

Rooney hasnt looked too sharp up front recently, either has RVP for that matter.

He will battle in midfield, cleverly will tire out after an hour, Giggs already played this week and Ando is too unpredictable.

adox

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Rooney is too good to be played out of position. Its really annoying

Meh he's annoyed me lately. Had very little impact, looked to be huffing and puffing after a few minutes.

I know I'll probably get crucified for this on here but, I really do wonder about his attitude sometimes.

Anyway hopefully he'll have a stormer and Utd wrap up the 3 points.

Rayne Wooney

No nani??

adox

I'd have Cleverley in before Rooney in CM if that is indeed the choice.

Paul Tergat

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

Rooney hasnt looked too sharp up front recently, either has RVP for that matter.

He will battle in midfield, cleverly will tire out after an hour, Giggs already played this week and Ando is too unpredictable.

The only way players can get back to their best is to play them in their best positions. Rooney is being asked to do a job for the team but it really is at the expense of getting him back to form.

Nani is in a similar situation but not getting games full stop. Being brought in for 1 game here and there and he will not play well.

Will I Amnt

Wallop Stoke, batter West Ham. Get this over and done with soon as possible.
F**k this fluting around with 1-0 wins. It's not good for the nerves and hanging on to a slender lead will come back and bite you in the arse eventually.

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No Falcao or Lewandowski?? :pac:

Kerrigooney

cambo2008 wrote: »

Wallop Stoke, batter West Ham. Get this over and done with soon as possible.
F**k this fluting around with 1-0 wins. It's not good for the nerves and hanging on to a slender lead will come back and bite you in the arse eventually.

Hasn't bit ye on the arse too often this season. If at all...

u140acro3xs7dm

Paul Tergat wrote: »

The only way players can get back to their best is to play them in their best positions. Rooney is being asked to do a job for the team but it really is at the expense of getting him back to form.

Nani is in a similar situation but not getting games full stop. Being brought in for 1 game here and there and he will not play well.

On current form Rooney doesnt deserve a place up front. So he can sit on the bench or play midfield. I'm with Adox on wondering about his attitude as well.

Will I Amnt

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Hasn't bit ye on the arse too often this season. If at all...

Hence the word eventually

Happened in the Spurs game not so long ago.

OctavarIan

I hope the lineup isn't a 4-4-2. He has three strikers and an attacking midfielder Silva/Mata type player in there. If it is a 4-4-2 I hope Rooney is in center mid rather than on the wing.

zerks wrote: »

No Falcao or Lewandowski?? :pac:

Strootman? Strootman strootman.

Kylo Ren

Maybe it's

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De Gea

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Jones----Ferdinand---Vidic----Evra

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Carrick

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Valencia

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Kagawa

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Rooney

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VP

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Chicho

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Paul Tergat

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

On current form Rooney doesnt deserve a place up front. So he can sit on the bench or play midfield. I'm with Adox on wondering about his attitude as well.

He doesnt look sharp. The only way we get him back to his best is to let him have a run of games up front. Form doesnt just happen

Kerrigooney

cambo2008 wrote: »

Hence the word eventually

Happened in the Spurs game not so long ago.

True. Still though,the leagues over,I don't know what you're so worried about.

Will I Amnt

Kerrigooney wrote: »

True. Still though,the leagues over,I don't know what you're so worried about.

Who said anything about worried?
I want us to march to the title, battering everything in sight.
The season is fizzling out a bit and that will be enough anyway but that's not the way you want to be winning it.

u140acro3xs7dm

Paul Tergat wrote: »

He doesnt look sharp. The only way we get him back to his best is to let him have a run of games up front. Form doesnt just happen

I would like to see an in form Rooney as much as anyone but we need 3 points today and Chico has a decent record against Stoke. If anything he will see a lot more of the ball in midfield so should get sharper quicker.

Kylo Ren

Kerrigooney wrote: »

True. Still though,the leagues over,I don't know what you're so worried about.

IF we draw today and City win it goes to 10. We then have to go to Arsenal and play Chelsea. Two games we could easily lose, especially with the form we are in. A draw at one and a loss at one with City wins brings the lead to 6 points with 4 games left.

Of course, we could go on and win the rest of our games with ease but still, it's not over.

bucketybuck

adox wrote: »

It's amazing how many starts Valencia is getting.

Its ****ing ridiculous is what it is. You wouldn't see it at a sunday league team, a player being ****ing woeful all season but still keeping his place ahead of other viable options. Utter bull****.

Paul Tergat

Alonzo Steep Loot wrote: »

I would like to see an in form Rooney as much as anyone but we need 3 points today and Chico has a decent record against Stoke. If anything he will see a lot more of the ball in midfield so should get sharper quicker.

Dont agree with this at all but its not really for the match thread.

I think we can both agree in saying - Cmon United!!!

Whatsisname

Looks like its the end for Nani

Kerrigooney

Keno 92 wrote: »

IF we draw today and City win it goes to 10. We then have to go to Arsenal and play Chelsea. Two games we could easily lose, especially with the form we are in. A draw at one and a loss at one with City wins brings the lead to 6 points with 4 games left.

Of course, we could go on and win the rest of our games with ease but still, it's not over.

Fair enough but do you really think City are good enough to win all their remaining games? I very much doubt it.