Clermont vs Munster buildup thread **read post one

thomond2006

**This thread is not for commenting on the POC, Dave Kearney incident. People ignoring this will be banned

As suggested in the other thread!

I'll do a writeup when the lineups are announced.

trouttrout

Munster by 40

awec

Clermont by 1-10

Good luck

Micky Dolenz

Munster by more than 10

Thread needs a poll. Always interesting to see which way people vote.

Glass Prison 1214

Clermont by 1-10

trouttrout wrote: »

Munster by 40

Your Clermont bias is pretty obvious, Munster by 90

thomond2006

We're gonna get destroyed. Soz for the buzzkill.

totallegend

Clermont by 1-10

thomond2006 wrote: »

We're gonna get destroyed. Soz for the buzzkill.

Buzz Killington strikes again. Jeeez

thomond2006

jesus I ****ed up the poll and all

Micky Dolenz

Munster by more than 10

thomond2006 wrote: »

We're gonna get destroyed. Soz for the buzzkill.

Are you sure you are a Munster fan?

thomond2006

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Are you sure you are a Munster fan?

Yes, but an extremely pessimistic one.

decisions

thomond2006 wrote: »

jesus I ****ed up the poll and all

Looks fine to me, anyone who was going to vote for Munster by more than 10 needs their head examined.

yimrsg

Clermont's reserves/third/fourth string players were very good earning a draw against a full strength Toulon side today. Delany looked very good considering he was a medical joker making his first start. I don't know if he's registered for the HC but he looked very assured and would be a better option than a half-fit Skrela. Nakatici also put his hand up to be in the matchday 23 for Munster.

Rightwing

Munster by more than 10

Munster it is for me. I'm biased as this game is bigger than any Lions match or Irish match this year as far as I'm concerned.

Clermont 17 - Munster 21.

thomond2006

yimrsg wrote: »

Clermont's reserves/third/fourth string players were very good earning a draw against a full strength Toulon side today. Delany looked very good considering he was a medical joker making his first start. I don't know if he's registered for the HC but he looked very assured and would be a better option than a half-fit Skrela. Nakatici also put his hand up to be in the matchday 23 for Munster.

Delany is not registered, I don't think they can add anyone at this stage.

JRant

Bookies have it a two score game, Clermont (-11) 10/11, says it all really.

Clareman

thomond2006 wrote: »

jesus I ****ed up the poll and all

Fixed it for you there.

JRant

Any word on a POC citing?
Going to have a huge bearing if missing.

phog

I'm not confident but after our last two games I've more hope than I had 3 weeks ago. We need Paulie, we need Downey and Laulala at their best in defence and we need Earls and Dougie back.

Clareman

JRant wrote: »

Any word on a POC citing?
Going to have a huge bearing if missing.

50 hours from the kick off time for HEC games, I can't find anything for Pro12 that specifies a time limit.

Clareman

phog wrote: »

I'm not confident but after our last two games I've more hope than I had 3 weeks ago. We need Paulie, we need Downey and Laulala at their best in defence and we need Earls and Dougie back.

Downey, Laulala, Earls, Dougie and Zebo I assume you want then, who are you putting where in the back 3? I think the south of France would be well suited for Jones' style of play.

phog

Clareman wrote: »

Downey, Laulala, Earls, Dougie and Zebo I assume you want then, who are you putting where in the back 3? I think the south of France would be well suited for Jones' style of play.

I don't really care just we need the lads even if some sit on the bench. I'd drop Dineen and Hurley

thomond2006

Earls at 13 if both he and Howlett are fit.

Rightwing

Munster by more than 10

JRant wrote: »

Any word on a POC citing?
Going to have a huge bearing if missing.

I don't think POC will be cited. This is a report from the match referring to that incident:

There was an injury stoppage for Dave Kearney who was kicked in the head by O'Connell when the Munster captain made a clumsy attempt to fly-hack the ball.

thomond2006

Please let's not drag kickgate into this thread.

Rightwing

Munster by more than 10

thomond2006 wrote: »

Please let's not drag kickgate into this thread.

There will be no escaping it!

JRant

Rightwing wrote: »

I don't think POC will be cited. This is a report from the match referring to that incident:

There was an injury stoppage for Dave Kearney who was kicked in the head by O'Connell when the Munster captain made a clumsy attempt to fly-hack the ball.

Don't want to get into the rights and wrongs of the incident itself, just wondering when he might find out one way or another.

thomond2006

Having both POC and DOC out would be a terrible blow, this will be a 23 man game for sure. Clermont have good depth at lock with Hines, Cudmore and Pierre.

For the record, these are the locks in Munster's HEC squad:
POC, Ryan, DOC, Holland, Foley

Worst case scenario is Ryan and Holland starting with Foley on the bench. Foley's last appearance was 20 minutes off the bench against Ospreys in the start of March. Holland has made 24 appearances this season.

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

Earls at 13 if both he and Howlett are fit.

full team?

Lualala or Downey at 12?

Micky Dolenz

Munster by more than 10

Either way this game will bring the squad on. This is where you want to be plying your trade. Top end European rugby. We are back here again and will be all the better for the experience.

Rightwing

Munster by more than 10

thomond2006 wrote: »

Having both POC and DOC out would be a terrible blow, this will be a 23 man game for sure. Clermont have good depth at lock with Hines, Cudmore and Pierre.

For the record, these are the locks in Munster's HEC squad:
POC, Ryan, DOC, Holland, Foley

Worst case scenario is Ryan and Holland starting with Foley on the bench. Foley's last appearance was 20 minutes off the bench against Ospreys in the start of March.

Simply put, we'd be well finished before it started.

Rightwing

Munster by more than 10

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Either way this game will bring the squad on. This is where you want to be plying your trade. Top end European rugby. We are back here again and will be all the better for the experience.

Exactly, we're in bonus territory now.I didn't think we'd back in H cup semi for a while, so hopefully we'll have our best team on show, v Clermont's best.

thomond2006

Deleted User wrote: »

full team?

Lualala or Downey at 12?

Killer, Sherry, BJB, Ryan, POC*, POM, TOD, Coughlan;
Murray, ROG, Zebo, Downey, Earls, Howlett, Jones

Bench: Varley, WDP, Archer, DOC*, Butler, Keatley, Laulala

*POC and DOC both doubts.

Teferi

As a Leinster fan this is like watching your ugly sister play against that cousin you have strange feelings for. Whoever wins I'll be happy.

I'd still prefer the sibling to win though.

thomond2006

Rightwing wrote: »

Simply put, we'd be well finished before it started.

Pretty much.

Today's game was a case in point, there's no way a second string Munster side would have gotten a draw today against a Toulon side full of quality. Munster cannot afford injuries, look at the difference POC has made since returning. The backline has looked headless without Zebo, Conor Murray... I could go on.

Teferi

Teferi wrote: »

As a Leinster fan this is like watching your ugly sister play against that cousin you have strange feelings for. Whoever wins I'll be happy.

I'd still prefer the sibling to win though.

jesus Rob, sit this one out!

Teferi

If John Hayes doesn't win I'll be cross to be honest.

thomond2006

Teferi wrote: »

If John Hayes doesn't win I'll be cross to be honest.

aaaah I can't decide....

Munster or John Hayes?

John Hayes or Munster?

Someone help!

totallegend

Clermont by 1-10

thomond2006 wrote: »

Killer, Sherry, BJB, Ryan, POC*, POM, TOD, Coughlan;
Murray, ROG, Zebo, Downey, Earls, Howlett, Jones

Bench: Varley, WDP, Archer, DOC*, Butler, Keatley, Laulala

*POC and DOC both doubts.

I think Laulala has to play tbh; I'd drop Jones and stick either Zebo or Earls at FB before I'd drop Laulala.

Otacon

Teferi wrote: »

As a Leinster fan this is like watching your ugly sister play against that cousin you have strange feelings for. Whoever wins I'll be happy.

I'd still prefer the sibling to win though.

Bit rich coming from a supporter with this guy in their team.



:pac:

Teferi

Otacon wrote: »

Bit rich coming from a supporter with this guy in their team.



:pac:

All I see is a picture of sheer grace and natural beauty.

melekalikimaka

Clermont by 1-10

Otacon wrote: »

Bit rich coming from a supporter with this guy in their team.



:pac:

they say if you stand infront of a mirror at exactly 3am and say Leo three times, he appears

.ak

I'm just hoping for a cracking game of rugby, and hopefully not a one-sided affair either way.

.ak

Otacon wrote: »

Bit rich coming from a supporter with this guy in their team.



:pac:

If they ever make a Leinster film I hope they get Boris Johnson to play Leo... with platforms on.

jm08

thomond2006 wrote: »

Having both POC and DOC out would be a terrible blow, this will be a 23 man game for sure. Clermont have good depth at lock with Hines, Cudmore and Pierre.

Not sure there is too much wrong with DOC (having rewatched the bit of him going off). After getting some treatment for what looked like his knee, he played on for a few minutes more and was getting around the place, although he did look uncomfortable.

He walked off unaided. People maybe reading too much to him keeping his head down, but the fact that he sat on the sideline and no ice applied applied etc., maybe it was only precautionary?

Quint2010

Clermont by 1-10

I certainly see signs that Munster are improving and the game could a lot tighter than people think. Anything could happen that could level the playing field somewhat-a sending off or sin-bin at a crucial time. But if Munster were to lose POC for this game I fear it would be catostrophic.

phog

jm08 wrote: »

Not sure there is too much wrong with DOC (having rewatched the bit of him going off). After getting some treatment for what looked like his knee, he played on for a few minutes more and was getting around the place, although he didn't look uncomfortable.

He walked off unaided. People maybe reading too much to him keeping his head down, but the fact that he sat on the sideline and no ice applied applied etc., maybe it was only precautionary?

I thought he was crying and there certainly was ice applied. I hope he'll be ok.

Otacon

Seeing as POC should now be available for this, our chances have now jumped from annihilation to mere devastation.

Fantastic news for Munster tbh. He makes a massive difference.

totallegend

Clermont by 1-10

If the reports that POC is not to be cited turn out to be accurate, Munster will have been handed a massive and grossly unfair boost. I think I'm going to find myself cheering for Clermont.

Rightwing

Munster by more than 10

Otacon wrote: »

Seeing as POC should now be available for this, our chances have now jumped from annihilation to mere devastation.

Many on boards were almost going hysterical over it. It was a clumsy challenge, nothing more.

Teferi

Rightwing wrote: »

Many on boards were almost going hysterical over it. It was a clumsy challenge, nothing more.

You ability to read only what you want to read is impressive.

Most people weren't arguing anything less than a clumsy challenge. This does not mean it wasn't reckless and showed a complete lack of his duty of care.