Samantha Brick strikes again

TwoShedsJackson

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2309037/I-wish-IVF-invented-Its-brought-joy-But-scientist-IVF-dies-Samantha-Brick-says-given-heartache-.html

Yes, because IVF didn't work for her, she wishes it had never been invented.

Bonus points to her for gratuitous mention of how great her fridge is, and going on to explain to the masses what a fridge is used for - storing things that need to be kept cool, in case you didn't know.

danniemcq

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2309037/I-wish-IVF-invented-Its-brought-joy-But-scientist-IVF-dies-Samantha-Brick-says-given-heartache-.html

Yes, because IVF didn't work for her, she wishes it had never been invented.

Bonus points to her for gratuitous mention of how great her fridge is, and going on to explain to the masses what a fridge is used for - storing things that need to be kept cool, in case you didn't know.

maybe we should put her in the fridge and take a page from tomb raider and lock it shut then.

just like the butler it doesn't kill her but makes her question her existance and the world will be a much nicer place without her

The_Gatsby

Why would she keep all the drugs from her failed IVF attempt in the bottom of her fridge?

Zaph

Probably not a nice thing to say, but the world is probably a better place when a nasty and spiteful person like that isn't able to produce any more of her ilk.

SEPT 23 1989

her "present" husband, Pascal

antodeco

that my husband and I are unable to conceive a child together naturally

Mainly due to the fact that both her and her husband are connected to an inhospitable cvnt!

Toto Wolfcastle

IVF gave her an extra chance that she would not otherwise have had and she thinks it shouldn't have been invented. Smart lady.

I Heart Internet

She and Shona Sibary ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2273565/SHONA-SIBARY-I-know-horrified-But-I-slap-14-year-old-daughter.html ) are professional trolls (and bores) for the Daily Mail website.

Desperately squeezing "stories" out of their lives.

GLaDOS

Don't give her the air publicity, she has nothing worthwhile to say.

Digs

That woman seriously needs to get over herself.

wolfpawnat

It has helped millions of people around the world, but since it didn't work for her, why should anyone have it? :rolleyes: The pinnacle of selfishness!

Bajingo

'...in the large American-style fridge which dominates my kitchen'.

Is it that her kitchen is small or that the fridge really is that big?

Anyway, she sounds like a spoiled child. I really hope that all women who fail to have children using IVF don't react in this way and to blame a dead man for her own inability to have children is disgraceful. I'm sure she thought him a saint when she first started treatment.

VinLieger

Probably just pissed that she didnt get the IVF for free cus shes so attractive....

General General

Samantha Brick next week: how some people didn't sympathize with me & therefore that's trolling & ruined my life.

Samantha Brick next year: how I wish the Daily Mail had never insisted on publishing my opinions.

cruais

She's just an attention seeking media whore!

Ray Palmer

I don't get what is so offensive.

Anyway IVF is probably one of the worst excesses of the modern world. Spend a massive amount of money to conceive a child while the same amount could save 100s.

What they also don't tell you about IVF is the increased number of conditions that occur.

There is no logical reason for IVF to be permitted and abortion to be disallowed it is a moral one.

wolfpawnat

Ray Palmer wrote: »

I don't get what is so offensive.

Anyway IVF is probably one of the worst excesses of the modern world. Spend a massive amount of money to conceive a child while the same amount could save 100s.

What they also don't tell you about IVF is the increased number of conditions that occur.

There is no logical reason for IVF to be permitted and abortion to be disallowed it is a moral one.

Because the right to have your own children is beyond a basic right. It is something hardwired into the very fabric of every species. We as a species have developed a way to do it even when there should be no chance of it. There is no describing maternal instinct. It has no rational, somethings it becomes worse than any other obsessive disorder for women.

Cienciano

People haven't realised that Brick, and the entire Daily Mail site aren't trolling? Bless

HondaSami

If you read the link it's hard not to fell sorry for her, IVF is an emotional rollercoaster for anyone who goes through it.
Don't judge her on her last story in the mail.

1ZRed

This woman is such a high mix of sexy and intelligent that I'm seriously afraid she'll turn me straight

Lollipops23

If it had worked (as it has for millions of couples) she would be singing its praises. But because she was one of the unfortunate few who it didn't work for, get rid of it.

Riiiight.


I think this woman needs psychiatric attention tbh. She's a total narcissist and is unable to see past her own desires.

Zaph

Ray Palmer wrote: »

I don't get what is so offensive.

Anyway IVF is probably one of the worst excesses of the modern world. Spend a massive amount of money to conceive a child while the same amount could save 100s.

What they also don't tell you about IVF is the increased number of conditions that occur.

There is no logical reason for IVF to be permitted and abortion to be disallowed it is a moral one.

If they have the money people should be allowed spend it however they like. Maybe it's publicly funded elsewhere, but in this country couples generally pay for it themselves. If they didn't spend the money on IVF they'd probably spend it on a holiday or something instead, so you can't really say that the money would save hundreds of other kids.

I know people who have had IVF and it hasn't worked for them. I know people who are hoping it will work for them in the future. What IVF gives is hope that these people otherwise wouldn't have. Saying that people should be denied that hope is what's so offensive.

wolfpawnat

HondaSami wrote: »

If you read the link it's hard not to fell sorry for her, IVF is an emotional rollercoaster for anyone who goes through it.
Don't judge her on her last story in the mail.

You cannot blame a woman for being angry that it has failed, ALL women who want it that much have a hard time dealing with the failures, and it puts more strain on some marriages that I have seen than even infidelity. It is the DM's fault for printing it, she will more than likely regret it in time to come when she realises her infantile ramblings get little sympathy due to her previous writings. But she is a narcissist. Her previous articles show that.

HondaSami

Lollipops23 wrote: »

If it had worked (as it has for millions of couples) she would be singing its praises. But because she was one of the unfortunate few who it didn't work for, get rid of it.

Riiiight.


I think this woman needs psychiatric attention tbh. She's a total narcissist and is unable to see past her own desires.

''I admit that I wouldn’t be writing this if IVF had given me the child I longed for''

She freely admits this, Unfortunate few it does not work for ? what are the stats on the failure rate?

wolfpawnat

HondaSami wrote: »

She freely admits this, Unfortunate few it does not work for ? what are the stats on the failure rate?

Only one in four of success, she is in the vast majority.

Duggy747

She's a professional troll. With the guff TDM allows out she's perfect for riling people up.

SB2013

Bobblehead Panda wrote: »

IVF gave her an extra chance that she would not otherwise have had and she thinks it shouldn't have been invented. Smart lady.

University educated smart lady. That's how she likes to describe herself anyway.

joe stodge

What a bitter and rotten person.

Lollipops23

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Only one in four of success, she is in the vast majority.

Fair enough, I'll admit I'm not aware of IVF stats. I've seen colleagues go through it and succeed, and I've seen the terrible toll it can take on someone when it fails.

However, it brings joy and completion to a lot of families- I hand on heart don't know if I'd do it if I found I couldn't get pregnant naturally, perhaps I would or perhaps I'd look at adoption instead.

But to wish it had never existed just because you didn't get your own way is ridiculous. Everyone who starts down that long road is aware that it may not happen for them.

I feel sorry that she was unable to conceive, but less so given her tantrum.

Duggy747

Duggy747 wrote: »

She's a professional troll. With the guff TDM allows out she's perfect for riling people up.

Just came to post pretty much this.

The woman is a very successful troll, nothing more.

Poor Uncle Tom

She need to take a long haul flight where the pilot will gift her a bottle of bubbly and perk her up.....

kfallon

My God she gets more beautiful with every passing day, what man could resist her......

:pac:

wolfpawnat

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Fair enough, I'll admit I'm not aware of IVF stats. I've seen colleagues go through it and succeed, and I've seen the terrible toll it can take on someone when it fails.

However, it brings joy and completion to a lot of families- I hand on heart don't know if I'd do it if I found I couldn't get pregnant naturally, perhaps I would or perhaps I'd look at adoption instead.

But to wish it had never existed just because you didn't get your own way is ridiculous. Everyone who starts down that long road is aware that it may not happen for them.

I feel sorry that she was unable to conceive, but less so given her tantrum.

The day you make an appointment via your GP to a fertility clinic, you are told the general costs and the odds. No couple (or in some cases just woman) can deny they don't know the odds.

It is tragic for those who do not succeed, even the TV is full of pregnancy and parenting shows, so many where the mothers did not want a pregnancy at that times. You can understand any persons anger. But she really does feel like she is the only one to go through it. There is a Trying to Conceive forum on this site and the heartache you see there is gutwrenching, so yes anger and heartache are understandable. But why should something never have existed because it did not work for her.

That is like saying chemo should not exist because it gives false hope to so many who it does not help. A sick logic.

666irishguy

She is typical of many in the world these days. She can't get what she wants and just can't accept it isn't going happen. Therefore it's all terribly unfair and they have to 'speak out' (dribble nonsense) about it. IVF helps increase the chances of having a child. It's not a magic bullet. But I'd say what is eating her more about the situation is not IVF or the fact that she can't have children, but it is the fact that she has had to use IVF, which points out to her that she is to put it frankly getting older and is unable to keep up with everybody else and ape the celebrity mummy fad we have been seeing the last few years. Must be terrible for a shallow intellectual and a narcissist like her to realize that.

Ray Palmer

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Because the right to have your own children is beyond a basic right. It is something hardwired into the very fabric of every species. We as a species have developed a way to do it even when there should be no chance of it. There is no describing maternal instinct. It has no rational, somethings it becomes worse than any other obsessive disorder for women.

Because it is so irrational is probably why it should be legislated against. To spend that kind of money on conceiving in an over populated world is really strange. A western child will consume more resources than the planet has if everybody did.

Morally speaking it is worse than abortion if you think about it.

LordSutch

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Samantha Brick strikes again

Poor Matt Cooper having to tackle with 'Samantha' all over again

I wonder has he got the TH yet.

admiralofthefleet

cant believe nobody has mentioned that she has a face like a bag of spanners

biko

I don't know about you others but I'd give her one night of hot biko love.

Grayson

SB2013 wrote: »

University educated smart lady. That's how she likes to describe herself anyway.

Bet it was a Poly

speedboatchase

Stop, OP. She is basically a stunt journalist. Nobody takes her opinion seriously and her columns are only designed to go viral and gain hits for Daily Mail. Stop giving her attention!

Grayson

speedboatchase wrote: »

Stop, OP. She is basically a stcunt journalist. Nobody takes her opinion seriously and her columns are only designed to go viral and gain hits for Daily Mail. Stop giving her attention!

FYP

Grayson

Anyone else wondering who settled more, her or pascal?

wolfpawnat

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Because it is so irrational is probably why it should be legislated against. To spend that kind of money on conceiving in an over populated world is really strange. A western child will consume more resources than the planet has if everybody did.

Morally speaking it is worse than abortion if you think about it.

Then can you not argue the same for naturally able to conceive people? Yes the planet is being more and more populated and yes there are hundreds of millions of children in less than perfect homes, but how can you then dictate who can and cannot have kids. It is a basic human function. My 2 kids were accidental, preventative measures were taken but they failed (as you are informed they can sometimes do) but you cannot go to another person and say, "you cannot have kids" when biology may do otherwise.

Also, at the risk of sounding callous, why should a person who clearly is financially and what you'd imagine is emotionally able to have children be told they cannot because in other countries and indeed in other Irish homes, they cannot/will not raise their children. It is only worse than abortion if they go out of their way to have children they will not look after, as long as the child's needs are met, then the argument for the best part is invalid.

Lunni

She's a rotten person. How selfish. Just because it didn't work for her means it shouldn't have been invented? What about those 1 in 4 women who now have longed for children as a result of IVF?

movingsucks

I couldn't even read the article - WHAT is with the head on her in the picture? And the pose?
What is that? Defiance? Anger? Bravery?
What?

Ray Palmer

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Then can you not argue the same for naturally able to conceive people? Yes the planet is being more and more populated and yes there are hundreds of millions of children in less than perfect homes, but how can you then dictate who can and cannot have kids. It is a basic human function. My 2 kids were accidental, preventative measures were taken but they failed (as you are informed they can sometimes do) but you cannot go to another person and say, "you cannot have kids" when biology may do otherwise.

Also, at the risk of sounding callous, why should a person who clearly is financially and what you'd imagine is emotionally able to have children be told they cannot because in other countries and indeed in other Irish homes, they cannot/will not raise their children. It is only worse than abortion if they go out of their way to have children they will not look after, as long as the child's needs are met, then the argument for the best part is invalid.

IVF isn't a basic human function it actually could be introducing issues into the gene pool that nature is preventing. It also causes children to be born with issues that wouldn't otherwise exist.

No reason money buys emotional ability. It is morally worse than abortion because it is taking ones wants over all others. If you are arguing the ability to take care of a child means you should be allowed have kids then you are saying not having the ability to take care of the child means you should be prevented. That is the logical conclusion of the argument.

It isn't less than ideal homes it is children starving literally. WE actually don't need IVF it is just desire. I really feel IVF should not be allowed for single people. It would not interfere with the right or ability to have a child. It will never happen but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.

Grand Moff Tarkin

Fantastic how she can wind so many people up.

Pherekydes

HondaSami wrote: »

Don't judge her on her last story in the mail.

Are you sure it's her last story? People like her never STFU.

Da Shins Kelly

IVF is fantastic and it really is unbelievable selfishness to wish that it "had never been invented" just because it didn't work out for her. It has and continues to bring happiness to many couples. If she can't cope with the potential upset of the failure of IVF (something that comes with the territory), then maybe she shouldn't have opted for it at all in the first place. She got her own hopes up by choosing to go for treatment. It's not like she was egged on into it with the promise of a child. You choose to go the IVF route, you accept that it may not work. Simples.

HondaSami

Pherekydes wrote: »

Are you sure it's her last story? People like her never STFU.

Very good :P

The headline is to grab the audience and people fall for it every time, she is controversial, people will not actually read the article, what she is saying is what a lot of women feel at some time during IVF and when it fails.
People are reading it the way they want to for their own agenda and a need to slag her off, gaining her more media attention in the process.

Smart woman I'd say.:p

hatrickpatrick

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

http://www.dailymail

Stopped reading there.